Skip to comments.We Kill Germs at Our Peril - ‘Missing Microbes’: How Antibiotics Can Do Harm
Posted on 04/30/2014 9:41:21 PM PDT by neverdem
You never get something for nothing, especially not in health care. Every test, every incision, every little pill brings benefits and risks.
Nowhere is that balance tilting more ominously in the wrong direction than in the once halcyon realm of infectious diseases, that big success story of the 20th century. We have had antibiotics since the mid-1940s just about as long as we have had the atomic bomb, as Dr. Martin J. Blaser points out and our big mistake was failing long ago to appreciate the parallels between the two.
Antibiotics have cowed many of our old bacterial enemies into submission: We aimed to blast them off the planet, and we dosed accordingly. Now we are beginning to reap the consequences. It turns out that not all germs are bad and even some bad germs are not all bad. In Missing Microbes, Dr. Blaser, a professor at the New York University School of Medicine, presents the daunting array of reasons we have to rethink the enthusiastic destruction of years past.
First and foremost, the war has escalated. Imprudent antibiotic use has resulted in widespread resistance among microbes; infectious disease doctors (I am one, as well as a casual acquaintance of Dr. Blasers) now operate in a state of permanent near panic as common infections demand increasingly powerful drugs for control.
Second, as always, it is the hapless bystanders who have suffered the most not human beings, mind you, but the gazillions of benevolent, hardworking bacteria colonizing our skin and the inner linings of our gastrointestinal tracts. We need these good little creatures to survive, but even a short course of antibiotics can destroy their universe, with incalculable casualties and a devastated landscape. Sometimes neither the citizenry nor the habitat ever recovers.
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Have a dog give you a lick. It will be gross and very nice at the sametime and it will cure what ails ya.
Think, if we hadn’t wasted all that money on global warming we my have had a replacement already.
Going for pro-biotics anyone?
Basic hygiene is considered passé today. That’s why we have MRSA and C-DIFF. It’s not weird organisms mutating. It’s the med/sci establishment deteriorating.
Until 200 years ago, infection was ALWAYS the number one killer of human beings.
Vaccinations and public health systems - like clean water - are the only reason that is not true today.
I say solve the infection crisis the old fashioned way:
Pour money into basic research.
Hand washing between patients is not practiced as rigidly as it once was. We need to put teeth into punishment for failure to hand wash especially when it leads to infections.
Incidentally, have you ever seen the green mold that grows on old oranges. That is old fashioned penicillin. When I am doing a lot of rough work, I keep a moldy orange in the frig, and if I get a cut or scrape rub some of the mold on it or on the bandage. Works fine. Better than dog licks. Also urge people to eat yogurt or probiotics for a week after a course of penicillin.
Kill them all! Replace the necessary ones with nanobots.
Yep - right here - - -Spouse is big on that, and more.
’ - - infection was ALWAYS the number one killer of human beings.’
Accidents were high in there somewhere - - -
I’d add sanitation to the list.
Not too high on vaccinations myself, tho. . .
Number 4 on most lists.
Until 1800 the death list was:
(1) Infection - which killed about half of all children and most of the elderly
(2) Starvation, Malnutrition and related diseases
(3) Hypothermia (frigid weather) and related diseases
(4) Trauma - war, homicide, accidental injuries
From a recent study: In conclusion, the present study indicates a different colonization pattern in the oral cavity between three-month-old infants delivered vaginally and those delivered by Caesarian section. The reasons for the differences are unknown, as is whether these differences have long-term impact on the oral or general health of the child. Possible reasons for differences will likely include the relative influence of host receptor and mucosal and saliva immune phenotypes, and interactions with environmental exposures.
I don't think there is any established science regarding the effects of bacterial infusions at birth. It should not be ruled out, but there are probably a number of other factors that are more important.
Like every other environmental factor the effects of antibiotics (homemade or not) and dog licks are both good and bad. There is a some benefit from some amount of everything (nutrients, other food, water, germs, etc). Too much of any factor is detrimental along with too little. Our culture rarely figures out the amounts that are just right. Far too many people are constantly avoiding germs one way or another and suffer for it. Still others may get a little too much dog saliva. The right amounts may exist in the right natural products like the dog saliva or moldy orange but perhaps neither of those had natural origins either and are a little imbalanced in one way or another.
Ah, so health care is the exception? Note the double negative. A doctor, huh? Where did she learn English?
aaah, nothing better than that baby basset love.
Avoiding antibiotics unless absolutely necessary is helpful. I know a lady who pops them anytime she doesn’t feel well, which is often. Her doc must think it easier that actually telling her to fight off whatever is ailing her, and that antibiotics don’t work on viruses.
We’re big probiotic fans. I prefer to populate our guts with the good stuff. I also switched our family to regular hand soap instead of antibacterial.
Silver: Nature’s Water Purifier
“In a world concerned with the spreading of virus and disease, silver is increasingly being tapped for its bactericidal properties and used in treatments for conditions ranging from severe burns to Legionnaires Disease.
While silver’s importance as a bactericide has been documented only since the late 1800s, its use in purification has been known throughout the ages. Early records indicate that the Phoenicians, for example, used silver vessels to keep water, wine and vinegar pure during their long voyages. In America, pioneers moving west put silver and copper coins in their water barrels to keep it clean.
In fact, “born with a silver spoon in his mouth” is not a reference to wealth, but to health. In the early 18th century, babies who were fed with silver spoons were healthier than those fed with spoons made from other metals, and silver pacifiers found wide use in America because of their beneficial health effects.
There are exceptions but this is mostly a Democrat problem from excessively high population density. If it wasn’t for the invention of steel girder buildings, humans could not live in massively parallel germ evolution petri dishes.
Kitchens have gone from having sanitary procedures to practicing full-blown sterilization, resulting in weakened immune systems. Also, the 'anti' chemicals used for such practices can and do cause health issues themselves.
Guess I’ll throw in my 2 cents as well. Another issue is that when people take anti-biotics, they don’t actually take the full course. This allows the bad stuff to gain immunity by not killing it all off.
Antibodies - Use them or lose them.
Don't you mean triple negative?
Don't you mean triple negative?
plus lots of good sauerkraut and plain yogurt - yum
Number 5 might now be:
‘Obama’s going to be the death of me - - -’
I know - I’m reachin’ - -
Sauerkraut - yes - a good fermented food.
Yum - you bet. Organic yogurt from Trader Joe’s.
Anyone who “fears” (oh, scary!) limits on antibiotics is simply uneducated about Phages.
I looked at the ingredients in Trader Joe’s organic plain yogurt and was surprised to see so many unncessary things. I stick with Dannon Plain lowfat or full milk yogurt as it has none of that extra stuff. Then, when I make my taziki sauce, I drain a couple of cups of the yogurt in cheese cloth over night - voila! Thick greek-style ready to go.
When I was a child in the 1940’s we had an elderly woman physician. When I had a head cold she would dip swabs in something called Argerol and stick them up my nose for about 20 minutes while I lay on my back. I suspect this was to prevent strep throat. I wish I could find some now. Health food stores do have coloidal silver that can be used for better health. Read labels.