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Trey Gowdy position regarding H.R.2377
Email | May 1, 2014 | Trey Gowdy

Posted on 05/01/2014 11:43:01 AM PDT by Resettozero

Thank you for contacting our office regarding H.R. 2377, the Encourage New Legalized Immigrants to Start Training (ENLIST) Act. I appreciate hearing from you and value your thoughts.

Our current immigration system is broken and inspires confidence in no one. We must have border security that is real and verifiable, an internal security system that addresses the large problem of visa overstays, and a mandatory E-Verify system to ensure employers hire American workers or legal immigrants.

Our country deserves an immigration system that is accountable and not subject to the vagaries of whether a President chooses to enforce the law or not. The House is committed to pursuing a step-by-step approach to reform in order to thoroughly examine each facet in detail and ensure the debate is transparent and accountable to the American public.

Our country has a long history of extending citizenship to immigrants who serve in the military and risk their lives for the country. To this end, I am a cosponsor of H.R. 2377. This bill allows immigrants who were brought to the U.S. before the age of 15 and prior to 2011 and to enlist in the Armed Forces. This bill allows individuals who meet the high standards of the military to enlist, fulfill a 5-year commitment, and receive no less than an honorable service designation to be conditionally lawfully admitted to the US for permanent residence.

This bill does not confer citizenship. Rather it acknowledges the mutual desire that those who were brought to this country before the age of legal accountability and desire to serve this country in uniform should have an opportunity to do so.

Thank you again for contacting our office. We hope you will let us know if we can ever be of assistance to you.

Sincerely,

Trey Gowdy Member of Congress


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; enlist; gowdy; hr2377; immigration; johnboehner; ohio; southcarolina; treygowdy
FYI. Gotta get busy; back later.
1 posted on 05/01/2014 11:43:01 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

Eh... why do these people keep saying this is a “broken system?” Why do they keep saying we “need a path to citizenship” WHEN WE ALREADY HAVE ONE!!!


2 posted on 05/01/2014 11:45:30 AM PDT by cld51860 (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: Resettozero

Actually, in addition to immigration laws already on the books, the MILITARY citizenship offer makes sense to me. My major concern with waives of immigrants is their patriotism and loyalty.
Doesn’t the military help in that regard?


3 posted on 05/01/2014 11:48:29 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Resettozero

Great. An Army of Mexicans with an axe to grind about the Gringos taking “their land”.

Guess it’ll make the BLM’s job easier when they need to throw some more white people off their land. Oops, I mean, El Tierra de Mexico Norte.


4 posted on 05/01/2014 11:50:39 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: cld51860

This bill DOES NOT confer citizenship. Rather it acknowledges the mutual desire that those who were brought to this country before the age of legal accountability and desire to serve this country in uniform should have an opportunity to do so.


5 posted on 05/01/2014 12:00:17 PM PDT by csmusaret (Will remove Obama-Biden bumperstickers for $10)
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To: Kansas58

I agree with the military route, but not the college route.


6 posted on 05/01/2014 12:03:37 PM PDT by matthew fuller (No, I don't miss GWB- I miss Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld.)
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To: Resettozero
I don't have a problem with this. Foreigners have been allowed to join our military and then become citizens after their hitch if they want to for a long time. This is just an extension of that.

As for the rest of the illegal alien problem...

Do those things and illegal aliens will deport themselves and pay for the trip.

7 posted on 05/01/2014 12:07:13 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Resettozero

“Our current immigration system is broken....”

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It was broken by LBJ and no succeeding president nor congress has ever made an attempt to fix it.

It’ll take a miracle and closure of our borders to solve the problem and neither event is likely to happen.


8 posted on 05/01/2014 12:13:56 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Resettozero

Thanks for the FYI on traitor Trey Gowdy!

___________________

By Trey Gowdy caving in to the Doormat Republican Leadership in the House that Boehner wrecked, is evidence enough that Trey thinks that the National Republican Party is going to “have a fair shot,” (fav. Obama expression), at gaining any of the votes of the 11 to 30 million Illegal Alien Invaders from Mexico.

WRONG! These 30 million “un-registered Democrat voters” are from the corrupt, Socialist Country of Mexico, and thus will be naturally drawn to what they are used to: the corrupt, Socialist, US Democrat Party.

This is the third most destructive program that Obama has on his “ram-it-down-their-throats-while-we-can” plan to “Fundamentally transform the United States of America.”

Wars have started over lesser issues - - - - .

The scary part is that Boehner, Cantor, Ryan, McCarthy, Issa and now traitor Gowdy are so detached from Reality that they truly believe that helping Obama and Reid ram Amnesty for Illegal Alien Invaders from Mexico down our throats will magically be good for the Republican Party, and not just the Doormat Wing of the Republican Party.

[Note to Republicans: Give us Conservatives even just ONE reason to vote FOR you. Convince us that there is no difference between Republicans and Democrats.]

The Reality is that from the Reagan-Kennedy Grand Amnesty Deal of 1986 until tomorrow, US politicians on “both sides of the aisle” refuse to enforce existing US Border Laws.

Thanks for nothing Trey! Have a nice life.

It is time, - - - time for a change.


9 posted on 05/01/2014 12:33:57 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Graewoulf

Correction: “is no difference” changed to “is A difference.” Sorry.


10 posted on 05/01/2014 12:38:09 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: 353FMG

It was broken by LBJ abetted by Ted Swimmer Kennedy.

Both are dead but that doesn’t solve anything.

“Help us, Obi Cruz Kenobe, you’re our only hope.”


11 posted on 05/01/2014 1:04:57 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: Resettozero

I’ve heard Gowdy mealy mouthing about immigration more than once. He usually mentions that BMW and a few other major firms are in his district, talks about the need for workers and says very little about details.

I’m afraid he’s just another closet amnesty supporter and nothing is more irritating than the ones who hide behind the ridiculous notion that they will legalize illegals, but never allow them to become citizens.


12 posted on 05/01/2014 1:19:38 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88

And with all the cutbacks in the military, I doubt we’ll have slots for all American citizens who hope to join in the future. NO slots should be allotcated to anyone who came here illegally, or who was brought here illegally no matter their age.

They shouldn’t even considered as long as recruitment quotas can be filled by US citizens.


13 posted on 05/01/2014 1:24:19 PM PDT by Will88
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To: csmusaret

And I agree with that. If people are willing to serve, that goes a long way with me. My problem is with this constant assertion that our system is broken. I don’t agree with that. Are there things that could need a tweak or two? Yes, as there are with many of our systems, or any system for that matter. I am a huge fan of Gowdy. I just have grown weary of the whole “broken” thing. There is “broken” and then there are “areas which need improvement.”


14 posted on 05/01/2014 1:25:57 PM PDT by cld51860 (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: cld51860
I just have grown weary of the whole “broken” thing.

I have as well. But, like Trey, I'm a born Southerner and to me, the word "broken" means something isn't working well and needs immediate attention. i.e. "My lawnmower is broken and isn't running right."

My request to him regarded his stand on amnesty. This email letter to me says, "This bill does not confer citizenship."

NO BLANKET AMNESTY is what it says to me. And I also speak English.
15 posted on 05/01/2014 1:46:06 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

“We must have border security that is real and verifiable...”
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“Real and verifiable” border security should be the 1st step in a multi-step immigration reform and should be a stand-alone bill. Once step 1 is completed then move on to step 2 which should deal with the disposition of those already here illegally. You must repair the dam before you can address the problems caused by it having been breached.


16 posted on 05/01/2014 2:13:59 PM PDT by lakecumberlandvet (Appeasement never works.)
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17 posted on 05/01/2014 2:16:21 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Will88

He thinks with his haircut, his background prosecuting and his big talk that he is some sort of badass, fringe, silver fox Conservative.

Gowdy said Jeff Denham needs workers to pick asparagus. Are the Mexican Nationals and illegals to lazy to pick? Did Gowdy go to Denham’s district? I don’t believe he did. I don’t think he’d travel that far to just look at some asparagus rotting in the fields.

Gowdy compares not enforcing immigration law to not enforcing laws against children who eat grapes. I think a lack of immigration enforcement is a bigger problem.
http://blogs.rollcall.com/218/steve-king-dreamers-arent-all-valedictorians-some-are-running-drugs/?dcz=

Gowdy also took offense at King’s criticism during the hearing of the South Carolinian’s own comments about needing a permanent immigration law solution.

“Did you hear his five minutes?” Gowdy asked a scrum of reporters about King’s statement. ”He took one line from my opening statement about a remedy that lasts a lifetime and lectures me about the rule of law. I was a prosecutor for 15 years.”


18 posted on 05/01/2014 2:48:18 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: Graewoulf
Thanks for the FYI on traitor Trey Gowdy! Thanks for nothing Trey! Have a nice life.

Why do I not believe you are sincere? Your post has the tone of someone who hates my U. S. Rep with insufficient reason.

You read this email letter? And you don't believe what he wrote to me is candid or truthful?

The rest of your post had nothing to do with this email letter or Trey Gowdy; it was just a general vent.

I think your anger is misdirected toward the wrong person regarding just who is pushing amnesty. You've chosen a poor target to focus your vents.


19 posted on 05/01/2014 3:23:38 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Will88
I’ve heard Gowdy mealy mouthing about immigration more than once. He usually mentions that BMW and a few other major firms are in his district, talks about the need for workers and says very little about details.

I’m afraid he’s just another closet amnesty supporter and nothing is more irritating than the ones who hide behind the ridiculous notion that they will legalize illegals, but never allow them to become citizens.


Will, I want to believe you are a Constitutional conservative and not a Democrat or GOPe hardliner. I want to believe it but this single post of yours is evidence you have bought into the Democrat points of contention with Trey Gowdy.

I recognize both of your paragraphs as having been repeated by local Dem pain-in-the-backs over breakfasts, lunches, and dinners. The lines are very familiar to me. Please modify your information sources regarding Trey Gowdy. It may affect other aspects of your opinions. You'll be glad you did.
20 posted on 05/01/2014 3:34:07 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: ObamahatesPACoal
He thinks with his haircut, his background prosecuting and his big talk that he is some sort of badass, fringe, silver fox Conservative.

He is, sorta, but not the way you mean. Where did you hear that he isn't a conservative? His letter posted here indicates he's not for amnesty the way many FR posters have been alleging. Please, what is your beef with Gowdy, then.

Could not follow the rest of your post. Must be allergies.
21 posted on 05/01/2014 3:40:23 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero
Please modify your information sources regarding Trey Gowdy. It may affect other aspects of your opinions. You'll be glad you did.

Why don't you provide "information sources" regarding Gowdy that will prove me and others in this thread incorrect that he is basically an amnesty pusher trying to take the gentler route of legalization without citizenship. Anyone foolish enough to help pass such legislation would give every demogogueing Dem in the nation an issue to howl about constantly until some court or the Congress redressed that horrible injustice and gave them citizenship.

I would like to learn that Gowdy opposes all amnesty schemes, no matter how they are crafted or disguised. And constitutional conservatives do not support amnesty schemes that reward illegal behavior with the grand, jackpot prize of legal residencey and US citizenship. That's the Dems and the GOPe.

22 posted on 05/01/2014 3:48:25 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88
I would like to learn that Gowdy opposes all amnesty schemes, no matter how they are crafted or disguised.

My inquiry to him was "What is your current position regarding amnesty. People are asking me."

It's clear nothing he said in response to me will satisfy you. You and I will disagree on this point.

I believe the attacks on FR against Gowdy in particular are not motivated by sincerity, since many are always DEMOCRAT TALKING POINTS ABOUT GOWDY.
23 posted on 05/01/2014 4:00:34 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero
believe the attacks on FR against Gowdy in particular are not motivated by sincerity, since many are always DEMOCRAT TALKING POINTS ABOUT GOWDY.

You really do try to turn things upside down and inside out. There are no Dems criticizing Gowdy because he favors amnesty in disguise schemes and more workers into the US.

That would be conservatives who criticize him for his mealy mouthing about amnesty for illegal aliens.

24 posted on 05/01/2014 4:07:13 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Resettozero

Gowdy is rewarding some illegal aliens who entered all the way up to 2011. How they will prove what year they entered I don’t know.

The future citizen Dreamer can sponsor the parent and sibling illegals.

Gowdy is saying that unless we become citizens tomorrow it is not a pathway to citizenship.

He is also playing into the game to find the most sympathetic illegals and start the amnesty ball rolling.

http://www.lauraingraham.com/pg/jsp/charts/streamingAudioMaster.jsp;jsessionid=44FF1F0A50DBBFAD759A398CC664EE01?dispid=302&headerDest=L3BnL2pzcC9tZWRpYS9mbGFzaHdlbGNvbWUuanNwP3BpZD0xNTQ4Mw==

Gowdy says asparagus is rotting because his buddy Denham told him so.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3141042/posts

Gowdy said he wanted to hear opponents and proponents. So his Dreamer hearing gets stacked with supporters. Steve King gets under his skin and complains to the media.

Gowdy said he wouldn’t run for Senate. Gowdy said he didn’t want to commit to 6 years.

So how is bashing Gowdy’s amnesty games, going to hurt him? He either wants to stay in his safe district or get appointed to a court somewhere.

Gowdy also has more respect for Rubio and Gutierrez than Steve King and maybe even Lamar Smith.


25 posted on 05/01/2014 4:18:03 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: Will88
You really do try to turn things upside down and inside out. There are no Dems criticizing Gowdy...

Bye.
26 posted on 05/01/2014 4:24:52 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Will88

Eric Cantor, John Boehner and Trey Gowdy are our friends because they want to investigate Benghazi.

Let’s not worry about 12 million undocumented Democrats.

Talking about the deaths of Americans.

Steve King: Immigration Reform will lead to more Dead Americans.


27 posted on 05/01/2014 4:27:36 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: ObamahatesPACoal
So how is bashing Gowdy’s amnesty games, going to hurt him? He either wants to stay in his safe district or get appointed to a court somewhere.

You suppose you have a keen insight into Gowdy's thinking. His future plans will be announced when he is ready. Until then, you are insinuating he will do something nefarious, sneaky, untruthful, or make under-the-table lying deals (going against his word as stated in this email) to be "appointed to a court somewhere" or stay in this district where he is well-respected except BY DEMOCRATS!

I hope he gets seated on the United States Supreme Court one day. He's a far better conservative than a good many already there.
28 posted on 05/01/2014 4:39:42 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: cld51860

They used the same concept to get obamacare passed. It worked then, they figure it will work now.


29 posted on 05/01/2014 4:45:25 PM PDT by sport
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To: Resettozero

Gowdy told Laura Ingraham he wants to go back to prosecuting at some point. He doesn’t want to stay in DC for too long.

He’s respected because 99% of the stuff he talks about is not immigration. But when he opens his mouth on immigration he gets in trouble. His face is on all the big talking points.

Why does he pal around with Mulvaney and Chaffetz?

Why was he picked to head the immigration panel instead of others?


30 posted on 05/01/2014 4:52:00 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: ObamahatesPACoal
You: Gowdy told Laura Ingraham he wants to go back to prosecuting at some point. He doesn’t want to stay in DC for too long.

He’s respected because 99% of the stuff he talks about is not immigration. But when he opens his mouth on immigration he gets in trouble. His face is on all the big talking points.

Why does he pal around with Mulvaney and Chaffetz?

Why was he picked to head the immigration panel instead of others?


Why your vendetta on FR against him using suspect reasoning? He said he is not for blanket amnesty and...well...you read the letter above.

Didn't you?

Let's agree we just disagree.
31 posted on 05/01/2014 5:06:46 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

WRONG! All that SFB Boehner needed to do was NOT bring a House Bill to the floor on Amnesty for Illegal Alien Invaders from Mexico, and the already passed Senate Bill would a worthy death.

Now Traitor Gowdy caves in to Boehner and proudly states: “ - - - I am a cosponsor of H.R. 2377. - - - “

BTW, y’all may have voted for Traitor Trey, but I also pay for part of his sorry salary.


32 posted on 05/01/2014 7:19:10 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Graewoulf
WRONG! All that SFB Boehner needed to do was NOT bring a House Bill to the floor on Amnesty for Illegal Alien Invaders from Mexico, and the already passed Senate Bill would a worthy death.

Now Traitor Gowdy caves in to Boehner and proudly states: “ - - - I am a cosponsor of H.R. 2377. - - - “

BTW, y’all may have voted for Traitor Trey, but I also pay for part of his sorry salary.


Your stringing together three non sequiturs in a post is convincing readers of nothing other than your anger and apparent hatred toward Gowdy.

Are there any others in Congress more deserving of your vitriol on FR? Or do you hate all in Congress equally? If so, it's understandable, but not a healthy idea.
33 posted on 05/01/2014 7:34:07 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: cld51860

“Why do they keep saying we “need a path to citizenship” WHEN WE ALREADY HAVE ONE!!!”

A very obvious but neglected point. Perfectly stated and can easily fit on a sign.


34 posted on 05/01/2014 7:39:09 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Resettozero

” - - - Are there any others in Congress more deserving of your vitriol on FR? - - - “

Well, that is one way of putting it.

I have always considered my “vitriol” as being more of being “gentle persuasion” as I do also have emotional opinions on the Obama Enablers in the Cave-In, Doormat, Republican Party.


35 posted on 05/01/2014 7:50:36 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Graewoulf
” - - - Are there any others in Congress more deserving of your vitriol on FR? - - - “ Well, that is one way of putting it.

I have always considered my “vitriol” as being more of being “gentle persuasion” as I do also have emotional opinions on the Obama Enablers in the Cave-In, Doormat, Republican Party.


Your high opinion of yourself as a superior judge in this matter is misplaced. If what you allege about Gowdy's being a traitor proves true, I'll look you up and apologize.

When it proves untrue in the future, I wonder if you would do the same. In the meantime, thanks for the chat.
36 posted on 05/01/2014 8:00:29 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

No need to apologize, as we are a polarized Nation, so apologies are a thing of the past.


37 posted on 05/01/2014 8:05:55 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Resettozero

Renee Ellmers, Michael Grimm, John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Vance McAllister are not trying to bring forward an immigration bill in the house.


38 posted on 05/01/2014 8:07:08 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: Graewoulf
No need to apologize, as we are a polarized Nation, so apologies are a thing of the past.

For you, but not for me.
39 posted on 05/02/2014 5:54:19 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

and a mandatory E-Verify system to ensure employers hire American workers or legal immigrants.

It would be much easier to just Change a small portion of the Tax Code and let the IRS enforce it.:

All Tax Returns claiming a payroll deduction with a no Match Social Security number shall be disallowed in their entirety.


40 posted on 05/04/2014 10:05:08 AM PDT by eyeamok
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