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Bye, Bye California
Townhall.com ^ | May 3, 2014 | John Ransom

Posted on 05/03/2014 4:30:41 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Soul of the South

“Unfortunately they’ll vote Democrat when they arrive in Texas.”

Although some of this will happen, it’s not clear that it will be widespread. The people leaving will not for the most part be among the ones who pay zero tax. They are the ones who vote democrat.

It’s a little different with Florida where many move there for climate reasons.


41 posted on 05/03/2014 6:23:28 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: alloysteel

Yes, NY is subsidizing new business relocations on the backs of existing businesses.


42 posted on 05/03/2014 6:23:32 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Kaslin

Wealth is portable to a degree, but more importantly the people with the ability to produce said wealth can easily tell CA to FO and walk away with their football. How well did Chavez do with the oil industry after the corporations walked away? CA can expect no better. Of course they could always build a wall...

Deprive an individual of the incentive to be productive and they will no longer be productive. It’s so simple a concept that the left cannot misunderstand the principle. Therefore the only conclusion is that the destruction of the California economy is entirely on purpose. Draw you own conclusion as to why.


43 posted on 05/03/2014 6:33:07 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Gay State Conservative
"I can't, for the life of me, understand why anyone who actually *works* for a living (getting a government paycheck isn't "working") stays in that state."

Well, after 4 yrs in the Navy and 35 years as an Air Traffic Controller, is guess I never *worked* a day, huh?

But I sure do agree about California, it's Massachusettes without the ugly.

44 posted on 05/03/2014 6:33:23 AM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: liberalh8ter

Prayers for Florida folks. I think we left just when SoFlo started to speed up on its downhill trajectory.


45 posted on 05/03/2014 6:34:28 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: diogenes ghost
Well, after 4 yrs in the Navy and 35 years as an Air Traffic Controller, is guess I never *worked* a day, huh?

It's understood by everyone that serving in the Armed Forces constitutes real "work".Yes,I should have made *that* clear.As for Air Traffic Control...was there a union there that gave tons of $$$ to the Rat Party? If so,I don't consider that "work".Sorry.

46 posted on 05/03/2014 6:37:25 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: freedumb2003

Exit tax?

Maybe when the whole country is solidly Progressive, they might be able to get away with guard towers in every corner of the state.

In that way, every citizen can be the recipient of the love that every Progressive has for all of mankind.
(Except, “ya know”, for those who are still in the womb.)

IMHO


47 posted on 05/03/2014 6:55:21 AM PDT by ripley
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To: freedumb2003

“Since then, there has been talk in California about an Exit Tax.

Yes, seriesly.”

Why not ? The USA already has a 10 year exit tax (you can leave the USA but you still pay USA taxes for 10 years).

I see no reason for CA to go 1 step further with a forever exit tax or maybe 2 steps further with a forever and retroactive tax or maybe 3 steps further with a forever, retroactive plus a penalty tax.


48 posted on 05/03/2014 6:56:41 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: bill1952

“Fortunately, an exit tax is a dead issue having been ruled on by Scotus “

Just one more democrat president and they have control of Scotus too.


49 posted on 05/03/2014 7:01:06 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: Caipirabob

Thanks very much! I’ve moved to the Bible Belt in Florida and even here we’re turning blue - thanks to farmers wanting those subsidies and cheap, imported labor.


50 posted on 05/03/2014 7:12:16 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: Kaslin

The left knows how to run a state, by running everyone else out, and letting all the illegals in.


51 posted on 05/03/2014 7:15:46 AM PDT by pallis
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To: freedumb2003

CA already tried taxing retirement distributions of people that left the State, claiming that they earned that money in CA and it rightfully belonged to the State. It was knocked down because retirement plans fall under Federal regulations.


52 posted on 05/03/2014 7:25:06 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Kaslin

Can’t wait to get out of Cali myself, the second I can retire. I used to think it was Paradise. Paradise has turned to Hell, for so many reasons.


53 posted on 05/03/2014 7:31:48 AM PDT by Nea Wood (When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination.-Sowell)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

This is true, the conservative minority in CA may even dominate a majority of the counties, but they are forever hopelessly outnumbered through big-city machines and unfair reapportionment.


54 posted on 05/03/2014 7:41:22 AM PDT by Theodore R. (It was inevitable: Texans will always be for Cornball and George P.!)
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To: CAluvdubya

The Dem takeover started with Pat Brown in 1958 and has continued with just a few short interludes such as Reagan and Deukmejian. I don’t see CA people ever again going Republican for anything.


55 posted on 05/03/2014 7:43:55 AM PDT by Theodore R. (It was inevitable: Texans will always be for Cornball and George P.!)
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To: Alas Babylon!

First they “progressively” tax income.
Eventually they will have to tax/ confiscate wealth.


56 posted on 05/03/2014 7:55:43 AM PDT by Zuse
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To: Kaslin

Here in Iowa we have a higher marginal personal income tax rate than New York. 8.9%. And we have the highest corporate income tax rate in the nation. 12%.

But our incumbent governor is as full of economic happy talk as Barack Obama.

But I’m not ready to say goodbye to Iowa. No. I’m ready to say goodbye to our current class of politicians.

That’s one of the many reasons I’m running against the governor in the June 3rd Republican primary.

While advocating for taking our personal and corporate income tax rate to ZERO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIQlWbw0ZKs


57 posted on 05/03/2014 8:10:43 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: liberalh8ter
"It's safe to assume the average percentage of democrats within California's population would also reside in Toyota's workforce."

I live in Austin - the number of former CA residents in my neighborhood is outsized and they are mostly progressive. The one saving grace is that I doubt TX can make room for the massive number of state and local bureaucrats / employees, that once the music stops in CA, those workers will have no place to land...

58 posted on 05/03/2014 8:55:16 AM PDT by uncommonsense (Liberals see what they believe; Conservatives believe what they see.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
"...was there a union there that gave tons of $$$ to the Rat Party? If so, I don't consider that "work', Sorry."

Did you notice the figure "35 years"? That means I 'worked' THROUGH the strike...yup, a SCAB!

In '81 I had been at Chicago Center, the busiest air traffic facility in the world, for 13 years. I was one of only 8 non-PATCO controllers (FedGov is open shop), which made for a miserable existence. We had 22 that either did not walk out, or came back before Reagan's deadline....and 465 were fired. So, I claim to have actually "worked", at least a little, for my gov't check.

But, since Massachusetts only votes Rats into office, you are therefore a Rat yourself. By your own reasoning. Sorry.

59 posted on 05/03/2014 9:24:33 AM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: Yo-Yo

“The Californication of Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, and Colorado is in full swing. The New Yorkification of Florida has been going on for decades...”

It’s more advanced than Yo-Yo suspects. And more widespread.

Left/Progressives have been invading Montana, South Dakota, and Wyoming for some time. They show up from Minnesota, Wisconsin, New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Maryland, and Connecticut (fewer Californians, yes; the suspicion is they fear our harsh weather).

Californication as a phenomenon has been metastasizing: folks from states injured by earlier invasions (Colorado, Kansas, Iowa, Oregon, and Washington State) are appearing in greater numbers. A worrisome percentage are retirees who bring their breezy brand of feel-good Left/liberalism right along.

Perhaps the numbers are less than in places like Oregon or Colorado, but this region of Flyover Country is so thinly populated already, that each “immigrant” causes a greater impact, relatively speaking. Cities (such as they are) expand, while towns and rural areas - the only areas inclined to the Right - go on shrinking.

Not that we are guilt-free: South Dakota insisted on sending Left legislators to DC. George McGovern, Tom Daschle, Tim Johnson, Stephanie Herseth Sandlin. Not to mention RINOs: Larry Pressler, James Abourezk. Every single one home-grown.

Too soon to tell if the migrations are ruining Nebraska (which is less than perfect anyway). And in North Dakota the locals have a saying: minus sixty degrees F helps keep the riff-raff out.


60 posted on 05/03/2014 11:02:58 AM PDT by schurmann
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