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Social Security Basics -- 5 Things to Think About Before You Apply
Townhall.com ^ | May 3, 2014 | Carrie Schwab Pomerantz

Posted on 05/03/2014 9:55:59 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 05/03/2014 9:55:59 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

#5 is interesting. A widow or widower can collect benefits from the deceased spouse’s benefits?

I was widowed at age 52, but have continued working all these years. I will qualify for social security based on my own earnings. Do they really mean to say that I can also collect benefits based on my deceased wife’s earnings record?


2 posted on 05/03/2014 10:02:27 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Kaslin

Sign up as soon as you can. If you don’t........it may not even be there later or they will change the rules again on you where you receive less anyway after waiting to receive more. Or you get sick and die and see very little or not a dime.

A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush should be the mantra with the politicians we have on both sides.

Just my humble opinion.


3 posted on 05/03/2014 10:03:34 AM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana

I agree.


4 posted on 05/03/2014 10:04:20 AM PDT by mylife
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To: sheana

I agree with you. And I agree based on likely changes in the law yet to come. My bet is that they will grandfather in anybody who is already collecting Social Security, at the time that changes in benefits are made. But those who have not yet entered the system to collect benefits will see those benefits reduced.

I did a simple calculation, and found that, if you start collecting at age 62, that it would take you up to age 77 before you would have collected more by waiting until age 70 to collect that higher benefit.

Of course, that was a simple calculation ,not taking into account reduced benefits if you were still working at age 62 .


5 posted on 05/03/2014 10:08:57 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: mylife

me too.if ya don’t need it take it and DCA into something like VWINX


6 posted on 05/03/2014 10:10:55 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: mylife

me too.if ya don’t need it take it and DCA into something like VWINX


7 posted on 05/03/2014 10:11:00 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: sheana

When you consider the huge unfunded liabilities in Social Security, we know that changes have to be made.

Politicos of both parties have kicked the can down the road, and continue to do so. But something has to give, likely in the next 10 to 20 years.

Benefits will be reduced.
Social Security taxes on workers will be increased.
The retirement age will be increased.
Social Security will become a means tested program, so that those of us with IRAs and 401Ks and other savings will see our benefits reduced.

Some combination of the above actions will happen.


8 posted on 05/03/2014 10:11:21 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

You cannot take your Social Security and your spouse’s at the same time. If your spouse made the same amount of money as you, you could take 100 of your spouse’s social security at 66 and start taking your own later.

But as I understand it from a luncheon I attended some years ago with Social Security experts, when you started taking your own it would be at the same percentage that you were taking your spouse’s.

It is amazing to me that SS is always short of money, since so many parents and spouses die young and there is no way to
actually reclaim their benefits. Also, it would seem that as the Baby Boomers die off, unused benefits would be in the fund for the smaller generations of the future to use.

Where do all these lost benefits go? True, the thing is a Ponzi scheme, but one would thing as the larger generations die off with unused benefits, there would be more for the ounger ones


9 posted on 05/03/2014 10:15:30 AM PDT by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Surviving spouse is entitled to draw Social Security benefits based upon the higher of the two. If your deceased spouse received or would have received larger payments, then you can claim that. If not, then you stick with your own.


10 posted on 05/03/2014 10:16:24 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Kaslin

That yearly mailed report is now past history.


11 posted on 05/03/2014 10:16:49 AM PDT by Old Flat Toad (Pima County, home of the single vehicle accident with 40 victims.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I look for the crooks in DC to remove the earnings cap on “contributions” They will tell the public that ‘everyone understands” SocSec was intended to be redistribution scheme form the beginning — and say it with a straight face

Do that, maybe raise the retirement age by a year or two, and it will be solvent for a long time. Heck, they might even raid it again for general fund expenses.


12 posted on 05/03/2014 10:17:05 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: angry elephant

Since all the money goes to the general account it gets dissapeared.


13 posted on 05/03/2014 10:17:23 AM PDT by mylife
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To: mylife

So I guess basically the administration takes the money withheld from workers and hands it out to welfare recipients, illegal immigrants, and others of the taking class.

Another form of death tax.


14 posted on 05/03/2014 10:21:09 AM PDT by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)
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To: Kaslin

If you have children (own or adopted) under 18, they will get additional benefits when you sign up for SS.


15 posted on 05/03/2014 10:21:37 AM PDT by entropy12 (Democrats win WH for one reason...welfare checks, food stamps and 143 more giveaways)
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To: angry elephant

Money that is not actively being drawn on is pinched for whatever they like.
The Political crisis du jour.

But if you are drawing it, they aren’t likely to cut you off.


16 posted on 05/03/2014 10:24:17 AM PDT by mylife
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To: All

I say get it while you can.
After all, it is YOUR money.


17 posted on 05/03/2014 10:26:10 AM PDT by mylife
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To: Kaslin

What many do not know, if you prefer to not accept Medicare, they will deny your SS.

When I went FRA and decided to start taking back 45 years of “retirement savings”, the SS REp brought up Medicare, I told them I had personal medical insurance I was happy with and did not want Medicare, the SS Rep said “no Medicare, no SS”. I could have paid the Part A and kept my person insurance, but found out that as soon as I signed up for Medicare, even the minimum, my personal insurance was cancelled.


18 posted on 05/03/2014 10:26:47 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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#6 - If you have prior military service, take your form DD214 with you, it will increase your check slightly. I say "slightly" because for 4 years active duty and 2 years reserve, I received an increase of $13 on my monthly check but what the heck, I'd rather have that $13 than not.
19 posted on 05/03/2014 10:32:15 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha. 1 Cor 16: 32)
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To: Kaslin

The biggest scare to me in this area is the “Income Adjustment” for wealthier individuals that is a constant discussion in the political circles. The obvious problem is who defines wealth and on what basis. With some of the more extreme theorists, the chance that the government would look at total family assets is scary! I have to pay for my cousin’s retirement because we share grandparents?

Even so, to think that Social Security could be eliminated is a total lie, told by the Democrats to scare their base into staying on the liberal plantation. The reason it is a lie is that the senior citizen demographic is that they VOTE and that is fatal to anyone who messes with this ‘third rail’!

Still, for me with parents and grandparents who lived far past the Biblical (Psalm 90:10) “Three Score and Ten”, it is logical to wait for the age 70 start. What makes Social Security unique is its “Inflation Adjustment” that is almost unique amongst retirement income streams. So it makes sense, unless other factors change, to wait for that draw until it maximizes.


20 posted on 05/03/2014 10:32:42 AM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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