Posted on 05/04/2014 8:24:19 PM PDT by BenLurkin
Odessas Jews are prepared to evacuate should the violence in the western Ukrainian city get significantly worse, several community leaders told The Jerusalem Post on Sunday.
... Running street battles between pro-Russian and nationalist forces claimed dozens of lives in the Black Sea port this weekend, culminating in the burning of dozens of pro-Russian protesters in the citys trade union building on Friday evening.
The Odessa bloodshed came on the same day that Kiev launched its biggest push yet to reassert its control over separatist areas in the east, hundreds of kilometers away, where armed pro-Russian rebels have proclaimed a Peoples Republic of Donetsk.
While Jewish community leaders are unanimous in asserting that the violence is unconnected to the Jewish community and that they do not feel specially targeted, they agreed that, should the situation deteriorate, it would be easy for the spillover to affect their constituents.
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The Jewish community, together with the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, has prepared a fleet of 70 buses, fueled and ready to go, if, God forbid, we have to evacuate the communitys children and any adults who want to leave, he said.
During Fridays clashes, 20 buses were parked outside of Chabads school, but went unused.
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Obviously, Jews in Odessa need security, Eduard Dolinsky, executive director of the Ukrainian Jewish Committee in Kiev, told the Post.
Blaming Russia for the unrest, he added that violent clashes may happen also in Kiev come Victory Day.
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Very irresponsible headline by Drudge.
Key part of the article:
Obviously, Jews in Odessa need security, Eduard Dolinsky, executive director of the Ukrainian Jewish Committee in Kiev, told the Post.
Blaming Russia for the unrest, he added that violent clashes may happen also in Kiev come Victory Day.
Agreed. Russians are at fault. Again.
This is getting very dangerous in Ukraine and Odesa might well be the flash point. It seems we are headed to the largest post-soviet break up war. Thousands killed.
The bombastic Russian chauvinism on display may be good for Team Russia moral but is highly offensive to basically everybody else in E. Europe. Given Russia’s offensive and arrogant nationalist displays it very probably “war tourists” will enter on Ukraine’s side and start killing Russians. Then what? Uh oh.
I'd say to both groups: It's time to get out of Dodge!!
My family left France because of the French Revolution. They went to Mexico because one of their sons was living there temporarily. It became permanent.
Then the Mexican family left Mexico because of the Mexican Revolution. They came to California because there was a sister and her family living here.
Some of the family returned to Mexico when peace finally "broke out." So I have French family in Mexico and here. None in France to my knowledge, though there are people there with my surname. It was in Basque country.
If the Russians win in Odessa the Jews won’t be coming back. Their property will be spoils.
At least for now.
In Warsaw they waited too long. Same with Odessa the first time.
Then, almost zero.
And Odessa has been a Russian city since about 1790. Seems the Jews were doing just fine under the Russians.
I wouldn't call them "tourists". I have no doubt ethnic Russians from abroad (incl. Russia) and ethnic Ukrainians with foreign passports will be returning to help their respective sides. There's also the element of ex-servicemen from the West who would love another bite at the Russian apple. It was hard to get to Afghanistan for the Soviet-Afghan War, and the Afghans were simply too foreign and Muslim. Ukrainians are Europeans and Christian in the bargain, and getting there is just a matter of flying in on a cheap Ryanair flight to a neighboring European country and crossing the border. Even without direct NATO intervention, if Russia invades and Ukraine decides to fight, first conventionally, followed by guerrilla warfare, this has the makings of another crusade.
I wouldn’t call them “tourists”. I have no doubt ethnic Russians from abroad (incl. Russia) and ethnic Ukrainians with foreign passports will be returning to help their respective sides.
Ethnic Russians are publicly displaying the pro-separatist St. George ribbons in the Baltics now. People are pissed about that naturally. And also about the Russian language persecution propaganda. Coming from a country like Russia that made language banning a sport that has really PO’d some of the Balts. I don’t imagine a lot of them go to Ukraine but some surely will.
We will know soon for certain but I think Putin has badly miscalculated in Ukraine if he thinks he can take them with proxies. It will require the Russian Army/ Air Force and then BOOM.
Yes because that where the Russians sent the Jews. see "Pale of Settlement". Lots of Jews came to America from that region because they were treated so well there.
All true and good advice. People of Jewish faith need to exit Ukraine asap.
I have been to the main synagogue in Kiev, near Golda Mayer’s house. The Jews in Kiev and all in Odessa would be well advised to clear out. Ukraine is like Russia with no rules.
I went to Babi Yar. It has one of the heaviest feelings of the presence of death, of anywhere I have been in the world. It is overwhelmingly sad, just being there. The Nazis had plenty of help in the slaughter from locals. The way things are going, the Ukraine’s Jewish people just need to preserve their lives above all right now. And btw, I’m Catholic, not Jewish.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babi_Yar
By the end of this week, things could be getting really ugly over there.
I thought they meant Odessa Texas, guess I need to study geography more.
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