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Take Your Stinking Paws Off My Cigars, You Dirty Bureaucrats
Townhall.com ^ | May 6, 2014 | Brandon Howell

Posted on 05/06/2014 9:03:32 AM PDT by Kaslin

For reasons passing understanding, the FDA announced recently that it was moving forward with invoking its authority to regulate cigars, along with other forms of tobacco.

It’s a part of the Tobacco Control Act, signed into law in 2009, which gave the agency the option of casting its net down on cigars at the time of its choosing. In other words – it was only a matter of time before bureaucrats decided to be bureaucrats.

It’s not set into stone, yet. Between now and July 9 the FDA will accept comments on its proposals, at which point it will the move forward with more regulations.

As someone who enjoys a stogie, I’m annoyed. As someone who thinks less is more when it comes to government red tape, I’m incensed. These new regulations amount to little more than higher costs that consumers will be saddled with the brunt of, all for benefits that reach nominal status at best.

What do they have in mind, exactly?

There are several potential avenues. The first would require all cigars made and introduced since February 2007 to be approved by the FDA. Because bureaucracy, timeliness, and efficiency. A second option would be proving that a new product matches the fitness of those produced before the starting date.

Cigar aficionados have noted that it should be easy, but if the FDA’s other dealings with tobacco offer an example, it won’t be. Some 4,000 applications for tobacco products under the agency’s jurisdiction have been submitted since the Tobacco Control Act’s passage, only 34 have gotten a ruling one way or the other.

Post-advocacy efforts, they’ve offered what appears an olive branch at surface level. As is often typical of the federal government, it’s anything but.

The exemption is directed the way of “premium” cigars. While many have long pushed for something along these lines, the FDA’s version of it amounts to a wholesale stifling of the marketplace.

The guidelines for such an exemption consist of eight points, two of which are most troubling. One states that for a cigar to be “premium,” it mustn’t “have a characterizing flavor other than tobacco” and the other mandates that it must cost more than $10 to be exempted.

In other words – so long innovation, hello higher prices and more regulation.

How so? There’s a cigar seasoned with Maker’s Mark bourbon. While it meets one of the two, it’s characterized with something other than tobacco, so we’re assuming it’ll have to get in line.

The FDA makes no clarification of what its terms mean, which should trigger alarms from the get-go.

As for the cost threshold, at least one study has estimated that roughly 85 percent or so of cigars purchased by consumers will not make the proverbial cut. Given the entire process of approval and the bureaucracy behind it, it means new cigars under $10 are unlikely to see the light of day for quite a while.

The logic behind this is anything but logical.

There’s nothing showing a demonstrable health difference between cigars priced at $11 and those priced at $9. So what we’re getting is an arbitrarily-based price cutoff, not something rooted in science and tangible evidence. Congress has mandated as much from the FDA, but it’s clear they’re not interested in following such a procedure.

Common-sense regulations on tobacco are warranted and necessary, I’m not saying otherwise. What I am saying is that this reeks of little more than regulatory politics as usual, not a worthwhile use of taxpayer-funded resources.

The handmade cigar market is one catered exclusively towards adults and is responsible for more than a handful of American jobs.

A deluge of new regulations here will do little more than endanger those jobs and impose higher costs for no scientific reason. Taxpayers, cigar consumers in particular, shouldn’t be footing the bill for these shenanigans.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: fda; regulations; tobacco
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To: wardaddy
Ha!!

I might just burn a Fuente Fuente Opus X tonight!!!

21 posted on 05/06/2014 11:07:49 AM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Kaslin

This is ridiculous. I buy lots of premium cigars on sale for less than $10/stick. Most of the ones I get are 85-94 rated and cost @ $3 each.

This will just make all cigars cost $10.


22 posted on 05/06/2014 11:23:34 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: Svartalfiar

The liberals need control over people’s lives.


23 posted on 05/06/2014 11:25:27 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: William of Barsoom
Currently, growing tobacco at home is perfectly legal. I've got tobacco growing in my garden now.

/johnny

24 posted on 05/06/2014 3:06:49 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Beagle8U
Does this particular regulatory action raise the taxes on pipe tobacco? Is that is writing somewhere that I can see it? Because all I've seen is rumor, and no facts.

/johnny

25 posted on 05/06/2014 3:08:43 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Digger
Speak for yourself. Some of us are actively resisting and not complying with the federal over-reach.

They can only kill me once.

/johnny

26 posted on 05/06/2014 3:11:35 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Ditto, but mine is still in the greenhouse. I buy a short season tobacco that does well in my area.

A bonus, growing it on the edge around my larger gardens keeps the deer, elk and moose out. They have no interest in tobacco so never try to bash through the plants.

Written on my porch, as I enjoy one of our additive-free, homegrown cigs...


27 posted on 05/06/2014 11:13:32 PM PDT by hearthwench (Debbi - Mom, NaNa, and always ornery)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I posted that for you over a week ago, did you read it?


28 posted on 05/07/2014 9:32:28 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Beagle8U
I saw a lot of speculation, but nothing in this particular rule-making that raises pipe tobacco tax %2200.

/johnny

29 posted on 05/07/2014 9:40:53 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper; All

“Tobacco Taxes Parity: Increases the excise tax on small cigarettes; equalizes excise taxes for pipe tobacco, roll-your-own tobacco, and smokeless tobacco; clarifies the definition of small cigars; and closes an existing loophole to end mislabeling of tobacco products.”

http://www.harkin.senate.gov/press/release.cfm?i=339333


30 posted on 05/07/2014 9:54:00 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: VanShuyten

I have been watching this closely for the last few months.

The FDA still has not issued their new regulations—but I am stocking up just in case.

If cigars go to $10 minimum (or anywhere near them) it will be another blow to the liberty of the middle class.

The Republican Congress needs to step up and get cigars out of the clutches of the FDA.


31 posted on 11/08/2014 12:18:14 PM PST by cgbg (HLM--"Democracy is the theory that people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.")
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To: Kaslin

Second hand bureaucrat pokes into our business, causes cancer.


32 posted on 11/08/2014 12:20:21 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Kaslin

50% of the reason is more Federal jobs for affirmative action hires. To expand Federal bureaucratic empires. For the Feds to seize ever more power from the states and counties and local governments


33 posted on 11/08/2014 12:23:27 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle isI am ap to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Beagle8U

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/s194/text

a) In General- Subsection (f) of section 5701 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended by striking ‘$2.8311 cents’ and inserting ‘$24.78’.”

“Tax parity for smokeless tobacco.—
(1) Section 5701(e) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended—
(A) in paragraph (1), by striking “$1.51” and inserting “$13.42”;
(B) in paragraph (2), by striking “50.33 cents” and inserting “$5.37”

is amended by striking “but not more than 40.26 cents per cigar” and inserting “but not less than 5.033 cents per cigar and not more than 100.66 cents per cigar”

Any product described in section 5702(c)(2) or not otherwise described under this section, including any product that has been determined to be a tobacco product by the Food and Drug Administration through its authorities under the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act, shall be taxed at a level of tax equivalent to the tax rate for cigarettes on an estimated per use basis as determined by the Secretary.


34 posted on 11/12/2014 12:07:26 AM PST by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: VanShuyten

Loose cigarette tobacco taxes were raised 2,200% as soon as O’bastard took office. This move will raise the tax on loose pipe tobacco to the same amount. I think the tax is figured per pound/ounce.

It will raise the tax on cigars too, but that was never something I made a point on.


35 posted on 11/13/2014 8:12:44 AM PST by Beagle8U (If illegal aliens are undocumented immigrants, then shoplifters are undocumented customers.)
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