Posted on 05/06/2014 7:58:26 PM PDT by PaulCruz2016
Like me, you've reached metal age friend - Gold in your mouth, silver in your hair and lead in your a$$.
” Gold in your mouth, silver in your hair and lead in your a$$. “
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Haha...well, I have all gold in my mouth, not enough hair to be silver...I wore it all out on the headboard, as I still do today...That means I have no lead in my ass :P, haha
Impact of fluoride on neurological development in children
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/fluoride-childrens-health-grandjean-choi/
Why do you prefer government to make those decisions for you? suggests that this is a political issue. It's not. It's a public health issue.
My original question of you -- your attitude toward chlorination of public water supplies -- was an attempt toward determining your recognition of the matter as a public health issue. You responded affirming that it was.
Here's the point about fluoridation. If you accept that chlorination is in the public interest, so too is fluoridation. It's a matter of public health. <
I have the benefit of having worked on marketing Crest brand toothpaste back in the early sixties. I'm familiar with all the clinical tests that were performed by the University of Indiana Dental School (who owns the patent on Crest's original formula, by the way) and the American Dental Association. Among them were tests involving every combination of the use of Crest and topical fluorides in areas with and without fluoridated water supplies. Plus, areas with natural fluoridation.
The fact is that the most effective reduction of caries occurred in the instance of fluoridated water supplies, plus topical treatments, plus the usage of Crest -- with each of the elements having about equal impact on the final results. We also found that natural fluoridation -- with its usually higher levels of fluoride ppm -- was an even larger factor in good dental health. Problem was, at this level, the accumulated fluoride ingestion involved began to discolor the teeth (cosmetics were the only negative, there were no other health consequences).
In sum, fluoridation of water supplies resulted in a significantly reduced incidence of caries within the community on its own. The topical treatments and regular usage of Crest further enhanced the result -- altogether coming close to eliminating it (over 70% reduction). The effect was most pronounced in children under 18. That's a benefit that simply can't be obtained without fluoridation.
Accordingly, fluoridation of the water supply has a broad and significant public health benefit of its own -- which can be further enhanced by individual treatment. As a consequence of fluoridation and better dental hygiene, involving the use of fluoridated toothpastes, childhood caries has been virtually eliminated in the USA.
Chlorine is added to disinfect the water, while fluoride is added to treat the drinker of the water. This is a distinction without a difference. Both chlorine and fluoride is added to the water supply as a prophylaxis -- a disease preventative.
I don't think lithium would qualify under this heading...
They have to use enough chlorine so that it effectively disinfects the piping at the extremities of the water piping system. So then naturally your going to get a higher dose closer to the water treatment plant and a lesser dose further from the plant, as chlorine parishes rather quickly.
The design of the water system is also important with respect to chlorine, ideally you want many loops as apposed to long dead ends, so that water the water is constantly moving and not ever inching to a lengthy dead end.
Chlorine will evaporate out of your water, will flouride?
Chlorine will evaporate out of your water, will flouride?
Oh?
What kind of chlorinated compound is building up in the piping from the water company to my house?
If you let it sit in an OPEN container for a while.
I worked as an engineering intern for a large town during college. A screen fell off the overflow for the water tower. During an inspection they found two dead birds in the water tank. The birds had flown in and around the top of the water tank, but were unable to find their way out and subsequently drown. I was in effect sworn to secrecy on this back then. No I’ll effects were ever reported.
I’m a believer in chlorinated water!
Fluoride is a Halogen, in the same column on the periodic table as iodine, chlorine and bromine. Now, we all need good iodine for proper functioning of the thyroid.
Since they are all halogens in the periodic table, the fluoride and chlorine are absorbed by the thyroid, which is NOT a good thing. I spoke to a dentist with a degree in bio chemistry and she confirmed the fluoride will bond quickly to the thyroid tissue decreasing it’s functioning.
I began taking non-Pacific Ocean kelp when Fukushima popped off, started riding my mountain bike again, lost 40 pounds and averaged 28 miles a ride. Coupled with drinking nothing but filtered water without fluoride, my body responded to the iodine.
It’s not building up, it’s continually being exhausted, chlorine parishes as it does it’s disinfection work and naturally parishes otherwise.
Chlorine doesn’t buildup in pipes any more than mash wash builds up in your mouth.
My “leftists trying to dominate you” radar pegs out on the words “no debate”.
Iodine is important to thyroid function. Chlorine (and bromine) disinfects our water supply. Fluorides strengthen teeth and prevent decay.
A few years back I saw a map that showed the amounts of naturally occurring Flouride in each county in the State.
All counties had some Flouride in them. It varied quite a bid. Some of the counties in the southwest part of the State had more than recommended amounts. That can cause spotting of the teeth enamel. There was some talk about removing some Flouride in those counties, but I don’t think anything was done because of the cost to do that.
I was raised on a private well, and have lived on a private well for the past 21 years.
My teeth are also good.
I wonder why more people are not concerned about the amount of meth that gets into our water supply.
The fluoride filters we use fit our unit but I think a replacement set is around $45. They take out fluoride and arsenic.
There’s no reason to debate the merits of fluoride for dental health. I’m not disputing that. Pat yourself on the back, your marketing campaign worked. The issue was, and remains: should governments be allowed to adulterate drinking water, even if it’s “for our own good”? For many years, I thought so — and (like the article author) I thought that opponents were uneducated paranoids. Then, I listened to one of those opponents, and came to realize that the issue is forced medication.
As for question about lithium, you must be aware that there’s a bit of a movement for adding it to drinking water — mainly to reduce the suicide rate. Surely, preventing suicide is at least as much a public health issue as preventing dental caries. The question is: do you want government adding mental-health medication to your drinking water? DesertRhino mentioned (in jest, I hope!) adding Quaaludes in some places. Perhaps inner cities would be a lot safer, if everyone was dozing on Quaaludes — but, do you really want government to add that to your drinking water? Where do you draw the line.
By the way, Victoria B.C. is, in many ways Canada’s answer to Portland Oregon, and other granola cities (fruits, nuts, and a lot of flakes). It’s very “green”, and mostly votes in socialists at every level of government (the right-wing provincial government is “Liberal”). When I moved here from the far north, I was struck by the comparative lack of freedom. It seems that every week something is being regulated or banned. Imagine my disbelief, when I discovered that the regional water district does not fluoridate the water.
Man: “Dear, you’re positively glowing tonight”.
Woman: “Yes, I drank a whole pitcher of water with dinner.”
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