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North American Union: US & Canada in play?
The Prince Arthur Herald ^ | April 30, 2014 | Jack Maggiore

Posted on 05/07/2014 6:35:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: tumblindice

Canadians burned it, of course they were British subjects at the time.


21 posted on 05/07/2014 7:31:08 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The GAME MUST continue... until it's DONE..
UNless the elite political class is pulled down...
click for VIDEO--


22 posted on 05/07/2014 7:32:02 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ON THE OTHERHAND;

Alaska should invade and annex British Columbia..

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23 posted on 05/07/2014 7:34:09 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
“Canada may have something better than energy that we can use; water.”

Great point. Drinkable water will be a major issue sometime in the future I understand.

Is this why GWB was intent on signing the NAU back in the mid 90’s I wonder. If so, why was water and energy not cited as potential benefits for us?

24 posted on 05/07/2014 7:41:42 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think Canadians would balk at Article IV, Section 4 of the Constitution: “The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government . . . .”


25 posted on 05/07/2014 7:50:20 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My mother’s family is from Canada and I love both the U.S. and Canada.

That said, I want the countries to remain separate for many reasons.


26 posted on 05/07/2014 7:54:47 PM PDT by Smedley (It's a sad day for American capitalism when a man can't fly a midget on a kite over Central Park)
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To: MichaelCorleone

Cal will eventually have to build desalination plants.

However, you all are missing the point of this article. No one is proposing a joint US, Canadian country. What they are proposing is an expansion of NAFTA. This would mean that you would not need a passport to travel between our two countries. They would also change interstate commerce laws so that trucks could operate in both countries like they do between US states. It would eliminate many of the customs requirements between shipping goods across the border. There are still duties on some items like lumber. No one is proposing making the provinces into states. No one is proposing eliminating the Loonie. A free trade, no international border crossing zone is what the article is proposing.


27 posted on 05/07/2014 8:49:27 PM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: woodbutcher1963

I was responding to what post #12 was saying, not the article.


28 posted on 05/07/2014 8:55:29 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: woodbutcher1963
Until 9-11, you didn't need a passport to go to Canada or return. Several of the 9-11 hijackers first traveled by ferry from Canada to Maine, then went on to Logan Airport in Boston for their date with infamy. The absence of border controls between the two countries could open both to illegal aliens, us from Asia, them from Latin America. Nothing against Canada, but both nations gave been separate for over two centuries and should remain so. We do not need incremental union through an open border and the like.
29 posted on 05/07/2014 9:26:10 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Wallace T.

Didn’t happen.

9-11 hijackers first traveled by ferry from Canada to Maine = urban myth .


30 posted on 05/08/2014 3:51:11 AM PDT by Snowyman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The NAU lives! This is the game they have in mind. Mexico is also included.


31 posted on 05/08/2014 3:56:00 AM PDT by dforest
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Because Canadians get to see such gems as Detroit and Buffalo up close, they have a lot of incentive to reject this idea. However, if they don’t do something, they’ll simply end up unified with India.


32 posted on 05/08/2014 4:06:26 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Wallace T.

Understood, I do not necessarily agree with the proposal on an open border. However, I do think there are many regulations on commerce between US/Canada that could be relaxed to make international trade less expensive.


33 posted on 05/08/2014 5:51:55 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is one big consideration, which needs to be focused on now and always.

The second amendment.

Canada needs to accept America’s rights.

Unequivocally.


34 posted on 05/08/2014 5:57:27 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: MichaelCorleone

I was addressing the group generally, nothing personal.

However, like always so many of us FReepers read the headline and make a comment prior to reading the entire article. Myself included. The article does not promote the idea of making the provinces of Canada US states # 51-63. Just like the EU does not alter the independence of Germany and France.

If I was one of 35 million Canadians, I certainly would not want any part of our 16 TRILLION dollar debt.

As far as water in the SW US, the day is coming when San Diego, LA, etc, will need to build desalination plants along their Pacific coast. There just is not enough water in the Colorado River to supply drinking water and water for the agriculture in the central valley. Therefore, just like Saudi Arabia, California will need to build plants to take the salt out of the sea water. The only companies that will not like that are the rock salt mines in NM and UT.

FYI, Saudi Arabia basically gives away the sea salt they extract from the water because they produce so much. Our state of NH highway department buys it by the boatload delivered to Portsmouth, NH for winter road salt. They literally ship it half way around the world and it is still cheaper than the rock salt dug out of the ground in NY State 300 miles away.


35 posted on 05/08/2014 6:07:15 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Wallace T.

Actually, they flew into Portland, ME international airport and then flew into Logan. They were cleared by US Customs in ME.

The fact is they could have flown into Canada and easily WALKED across the VT, NH or ME border if they really wanted to. The VT, NH, Canada border is a 100 yard open strip of land where they have removed the trees. There are no guard shacks that can see every place on the border. Also, there are several lakes, rivers that are on the border. There are 1000’s of places to easily cross undetected.

The show “Homeland” had an episode where an Iranian flew into Montreal and rented a car. He left his rental car in Canada walked across and was picked up in one of the small VT border towns by a friend. This would be very easy to accomplish and not far fetched at all.


36 posted on 05/08/2014 6:22:43 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: woodbutcher1963; Snowyman
From what Wikipedia and 9-11 memorial sites indicate, it doesn't appear that any of the hijackers started out in Canada. They probably used the Portland airport because, even pre 9-11, controls would have been more lax there than at Logan Airport. I remembered that detail from the first reports 13 years ago.

While the Canadian border does not have the illegal immigrant and drug trafficking issues the Mexican border has, it sounds like better surveillance is needed, perhaps the "virtual fence" that Homeland Security has mentioned for the U.S.-Mexican border.

37 posted on 05/08/2014 6:56:55 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: woodbutcher1963
I've been in the Logan airport but wouldn't think there were direct flights from Maine to a small town in Utah.

I wonder about Glacier National Park. There is a Canadian park just across the border--do they check people on the trail at the border?

38 posted on 05/08/2014 7:19:18 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

“I’ve been in the Logan airport but wouldn’t think there were direct flights from Maine to a small town in Utah.”

Maine to Utah? What are you talking about?


39 posted on 05/08/2014 12:12:42 PM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Wallace T.

Mohamed Atta and some other guy started out in Portland, ME.
They may have already been in the country. However, they definitely went through security at the Portland Airport before they flew to Boston Logan.

There are hundreds of lakes, rivers on the US/Canadian border. It is impossible to monitor all of them. Just the Lake of the Woods to Lake Superior on the MN/ONT border has millions of acres of woods, lakes and rivers/streams. Take a look at a map.

The only security points are at road crossings. They actually direct the snowmobilers to these road/border customs crossings.


40 posted on 05/08/2014 12:21:53 PM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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