[CatherineofAragon]

"What's disingenuous is people who know better proposing that the Vatican be dispossessed, à la Henry VIII, as a real-world solution to anything. It seems to have more to do with envy (which is not a virtue) than with a charitable result."

Envy of what?

[longtermmemmory]

redistribution = success penalty

who determines the penalty? those who have “got theirs” and want to prevent others from rising.

[SamuraiScot]

Envy of what?

Envy is "sorrow for another's good," according to St. John Damascene—who protected icons and holy pictures from Moslem-influenced fanatics who were destroying them in the 8th century. But St. Thomas Aquinas says no—envy is when we see another's virtue or good fortune, and feel sorrow at the evil or inadequacy we see in ourselves. In any case, it's kind of open-ended what will burn envious people up about a person or an institution. You see it a lot in anti-Semitism. If a claim seems illogical or obsessive, I figure envy is at least an element.