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Tiny houses a way off the streets for Wisconsin homeless
Reuters ^ | May 10 2014 | Brendan O'Brien

Posted on 05/10/2014 11:12:32 AM PDT by PoloSec

After surviving two long, cold Wisconsin winters on the streets, Betty Ybarra traded freezing park benches and tents for a tiny house made of recycled wood she helped build herself.

Her 99-square-foot home, which boasts flower window boxes, was built by volunteers of the Occupy Madison group, as part of about a half dozen similar projects around the United States, including in New York and Texas, to shelter the homeless.

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"The village will bring dignity. We will have a fence and we will have community," organizer Trina Clemente said.

For Ybarra a tiny house means much-needed normalcy after many nights sleeping on cardboard.

"It's cozy," she added.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: condo; homeless; houses; wisconsin
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Something tells me this won't work out well, I don't see how this will keep the homeless off the streets, that's where they make there living.
1 posted on 05/10/2014 11:12:32 AM PDT by PoloSec
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To: PoloSec

Being homeless is a choice.


2 posted on 05/10/2014 11:14:28 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: PoloSec
99-square-foot home closet
3 posted on 05/10/2014 11:16:49 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: dfwgator

I agree, though some folks are very mentally ill, it’s not very many that I’ve come across.

99 sq feet? where’s the pictures? I consider 1500 sq feet to be small.


4 posted on 05/10/2014 11:17:05 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: PoloSec

There are some small number of people who have hit upon desperate times that you’ll occasionally find living on the streets, but by far and away, they’re mentally ill, have major substance abuse problems and often both, and cannot maintain shelter for themselves, they’re that dysfunctional. Some seem to actually prefer it. Homeless shelters fill up when the weather is bad. When it’s not, they don’t.


5 posted on 05/10/2014 11:17:41 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: dfwgator

Not always.


6 posted on 05/10/2014 11:19:14 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
I am all for the idea of downsizing and simplifying, but 10’x10’ is not living. It is being stored.
7 posted on 05/10/2014 11:21:51 AM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: PoloSec

December 24, 2013 8:50 am • By Dan Simmons | Wisconsin State Journal

Last spring, Betty Ybarra occupied a tent in a county park and with her tentmates dug
moats to discourage oncoming floodwaters.

Starting Christmas Eve, she and a tentmate will upgrade to a brand new “tiny home” they
helped build with aid from a variety of helpers including local colleges. It has a
roof, insulated walls, a toilet and a sink. Christmas lights hang outside it.....

The houses currently must be trailered around the neighborhood a couple of
times a week. City ordinance allows them to be parked on the street as long as
they’re moved every 48 hours.

The transient life will eventually end for the houses as it does for their occupants, Wallbaum said.

Read more: http://host.madison.com/news/local/first-tiny-home-to-be-occupied-thanks-to-a-village/article_78a4cdde-1081-5df4-b4c4-e021b300d002.html#ixzz31L34Sg1C


8 posted on 05/10/2014 11:25:01 AM PDT by deport
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To: deport

9 posted on 05/10/2014 11:25:52 AM PDT by deport
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To: PoloSec

All have a sink and a composting toilet, and are heated using propane and solar panels.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I predict fires, solar panel failure, and sanitary issues.


10 posted on 05/10/2014 11:27:29 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Bulwyf

1500 hundred square feet or smaller used to be the norm!!


11 posted on 05/10/2014 11:28:40 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: dfwgator
Being homeless is a choice.

Absolutely correct. As a triage interviewer at a local food bank, I speak with homeless people regularly. A large majority do not want a home. Mostly, they just want to be left alone. Also note: most of these folks have some mental problems, but won't seek help and don't want meds.

12 posted on 05/10/2014 11:29:10 AM PDT by upchuck (Support ABLE, the Anybody But Lindsey Effort. Yes, we are the ABLE!!)
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To: upchuck

And they managed to burn bridges with every friend and family member who wanted to help them, because they chose to continue their destructive behaviors.


13 posted on 05/10/2014 11:30:30 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Bulwyf

Most of the people I have come across who are homeless are mentally ill.

I am going to say that making them helpless and on the street was the long term intent when liberal judges forced the closing of most large mental institutions back in the mid eighties.

Coward Piven.


14 posted on 05/10/2014 11:30:55 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: wintertime

Probably deaths by carbon monoxide too.


15 posted on 05/10/2014 11:31:36 AM PDT by upchuck (Support ABLE, the Anybody But Lindsey Effort. Yes, we are the ABLE!!)
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To: PoloSec
In Madison Wisconsin?

I would bet these are not in compliance with zoning requirements and building codes.

Imagine the fun you would have with the zoning board and building inspector if you tried to build something like that for human habitation in most cities.


16 posted on 05/10/2014 11:32:14 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Malaysia Flight MH370 Black Box signals reported in Bermuda Triangle)
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To: MrEdd

Cloward. Freudian slip I guess.


17 posted on 05/10/2014 11:32:33 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: dfwgator

Unfortunately, yes. This is another facet of being homeless.


18 posted on 05/10/2014 11:32:55 AM PDT by upchuck (Support ABLE, the Anybody But Lindsey Effort. Yes, we are the ABLE!!)
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To: beef

It is a spacious mansion compared to a shelter half, and I have spent months at a time living in those.


19 posted on 05/10/2014 11:33:54 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: deport
wonder if they have odd/even parking in the winter?
20 posted on 05/10/2014 11:35:07 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: RegulatorCountry

I agree with everything you wrote except that they prefer to be homeless. They don’t want to be homeless. Most would prefer a home, they just can’t manage it. A lot avoid the shelters because they can be dangerous and/or the individuals can’t deal with the rules or are mentally ill enough that is too difficult to handle.


21 posted on 05/10/2014 11:37:01 AM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: PoloSec

This is Wisconsin? How did they survive even one winter living in the streets?

The description of the tiny house mentions a bed, table and microwave oven but it doesn’t mention a bathroom (flush toilet/shower)?


22 posted on 05/10/2014 11:38:09 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: deport

Since they’re on trailers, they should tow them to a city that has lots of vacant lots, say Detroit or Cleveland.

If they did it in the middle of the night, I’d bet many of the residents wouldn’t even notice.


23 posted on 05/10/2014 11:38:17 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: MrEdd
Most of the people I have come across who are homeless are mentally ill.

I imagine that most of them appear on the rolls as reliable democrat voters - even if they aren't aware of it.


24 posted on 05/10/2014 11:41:28 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Malaysia Flight MH370 Black Box signals reported in Bermuda Triangle)
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To: upchuck

Yep! That too!


25 posted on 05/10/2014 11:42:50 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: RegulatorCountry

Seem to always have money for cigs and booze. Or they get them somehow.


26 posted on 05/10/2014 11:45:31 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: Ditter

There is a Tiny Homes builder in Luling on I-10. They aren’t cheap either.
But they’ve been there for a few years so I guess they do sell some.

http://tinytexashouses.com/category/tiny-house-photos/


27 posted on 05/10/2014 11:46:46 AM PDT by deport
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To: PoloSec
Tiny houses a way off the streets...

Why settle for a tiny house...if you can scrounge four tiny houses, you can get a tiny hotel.


28 posted on 05/10/2014 11:47:49 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: PoloSec

I’m surprised that there haven’t been protests demanding that the “we wish you a Merry Christmas” sign be removed.


29 posted on 05/10/2014 11:50:49 AM PDT by HotKat (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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To: deport

I think I have seen that place on I-10. The pictures are hard for me to see but they look cute. I would have to have A/C and a good shower.


30 posted on 05/10/2014 11:58:04 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

Can they be plugged into a regular outlet?


31 posted on 05/10/2014 12:00:33 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Perhaps not always but choice does seem to be the norm.


32 posted on 05/10/2014 12:01:54 PM PDT by bgill
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To: PoloSec

I’ve never been homeless but I lived out of my van for almost a year when I was in my teens. It gets old in a hurry.


33 posted on 05/10/2014 12:03:05 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr

Was your van down by the river?

Sorry, I could help myself :)! That must have been a tough year.


34 posted on 05/10/2014 12:06:15 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

sorry again (couldn’t help myself)


35 posted on 05/10/2014 12:07:21 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

It’s on the south side of I-10 a couple of miles west of the Love’s truck stop.
They have any ammenities you desire and can afford.


36 posted on 05/10/2014 12:08:15 PM PDT by deport
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To: MrEdd

You sure have a point in regard to those institutions. We should allow them to help folks that need them, rather than leaving them at the mercy of whoever.

As Christians, we also have the obligation to look after people like this. If we saw more churches standing up and taking responsibility, we’d have far less trouble too.


37 posted on 05/10/2014 12:11:14 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: deport

Certainly saves on plumbing, just move it before the street sweeper comes by.


38 posted on 05/10/2014 12:12:38 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: tallyhoe

Sorry, I’m just speaking in the case of having three kids, it gets crowded fast heh.

A lot depends on what’s outside too, rural living in the country is superb. I had to buy a house in town again for now, but I have a spot picked out I should be able to grab in a year or two.

I’d still like to see these places these guys built for these homeless folks.


39 posted on 05/10/2014 12:12:38 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: PoloSec
Well...it was good enough for Thoreau.
40 posted on 05/10/2014 12:14:37 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (Some people say that experts agree!!)
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To: PoloSec

Imagine ice fishing. FOREVER.


41 posted on 05/10/2014 12:15:56 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: PoloSec
Folks who libel and rob others into homelessness but wouldn't even work with their own hands to build a shack on wheels:

Heavy Hitters: Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2014
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php
American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $60,949,129 [Democrat] 81% [Republican] 1%”

Leviathan (Uncle Sam employs more people than you think)
National Review ^ | 02/03/2011 | Iain Murray
"...nearly 40 million Americans employed in some way by government."


42 posted on 05/10/2014 12:16:12 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: beef

And charity provides a handout, it is better if it is sub optimal. This provides motivation to move on to something better. Charitable help should not be a long-term solution. It dehumanizes people.


43 posted on 05/10/2014 12:20:54 PM PDT by mongrel
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To: Iron Munro

http://www.designboom.com/contemporary/tiny_houses2.html

The zoning and building codes do not apply to houses on wheels, hence RVs.


44 posted on 05/10/2014 12:21:05 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: deport

I have decided that I want one...... Mr Ditter is less than thrilled. :)


45 posted on 05/10/2014 12:21:26 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

Let’s just say he doesn’t do the cleaning and cooking is my guess? Think of the savings in heat, a/c, and there would be lots of eating out, right?....lol


46 posted on 05/10/2014 12:24:24 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Ditter
The pictures are hard for me to see but they look cute.

A helpful reminder...

You can zoom IN/OUT while in any browser by using CTRL and + (zoom in). Repeat until large enough.

CTRL and - to zoom out. CTRL and 0 to reset to default.

47 posted on 05/10/2014 12:26:40 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: GeronL
Can they be plugged into a regular outlet?

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The ones built here in Texas are stand alone units with any amenities you desire.


48 posted on 05/10/2014 12:28:53 PM PDT by deport
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To: dfwgator
Being homeless is a choice.

Easy to write from the comfort of one's home; With unemployment and underemployment what it is, millions of people are struggling. According to the Census Bureau, between 2007 and 2010, mainly the Obama years, the number of shared households (think roommates or parents' basements) increased by 2.25 million, an 11.4% increase while households only increased by 1.3%. "Between 2007 and 2010, the number of adult children who resided in their parents’ households increased by 1.2 million." Meanwhile, the US military has been cut, which probably cuts more of the marginal young people from poor and lower middle class families from opportunities to be independent.

Factor in drug abuse, mental illness and homelessness is a huge problem.

49 posted on 05/10/2014 12:30:02 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: PoloSec
Nothing new.


50 posted on 05/10/2014 12:31:07 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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