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Pope Francis: 'Tea Party Catholic'?
Breitbart's Big Peace ^ | May 10, 2014 | Robert Wilde

Posted on 05/10/2014 8:46:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The main problem this Pope and everybody on the Left - and indeed almost everybody else including conservatives - is that they have never meditated on the meaning and inevitability of Pareto's Law. Folks, we gotta get this. It's really distressing reading some of the comments here. It's like nobody here has ever taken Econ 101.

So, here's the deal. All biological systems arrange themselves to use their available energy most efficiently. This allows the biological system to grow and to thrive. The most efficient organization is called a Pareto Distribution, which means in effect that 80% of the wealth will go to 20% of the population. It also means that within the 20% that the same 80/20 rule will apply, with the wealth being starkly bunched up at the top.

This Pareto Distribution arises as a corollary to the Laws of Thermodynamics and Evolution. Conservation of Energy. That's it. There is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY TO AVOID A PARETO DISTRIBUTION IN ECONOMIC RESULTS.

So, if stark RELATIVE inequality is as inevitable as the sun rising in the east and setting in the west, then what do we do? Simple. We make RELATIVE inequality as non-consequential as possible by producing so much wealth that in ABSOLUTE terms everybody will be affluent. In short, we concentrate on growth, keep the economy moving forward at a rapid and sustained pace, and make sure that the bottom 80% now have as much wealth as the top 20% in absolute terms. Under the "Law of 72", the economy will double in size withers the Rate of Growth times the Number of Years equals 72. So, if we could achieve a 6% growth rate in GDP and maintain it for 12 years, the economy would double. If we maintain it for another 12 years, the economy will have quadrupled, and the the bottom 80% then will be living like the top 20% now.

Get it?

It's so important, my fellow conservatives. WE HAVE TO GET THIS POINT. Else, we let the Left breathlessly tell us that "the top 20% have 80% of the wealth and that's unfair!!!" Guys, we need to respond "Congratulations, Leftie! You've discovered the Pareto Distribution! Now, can we please accept the inevitability of RELATIVE inequality, which will finally allow us to begin to end ABSOLUTE poverty once and for all?

In order to do that we need to start by accepting the fact that Pareto's Law is as unavoidable as the Law of Gravity. "The poor you will always have with you." That's right. The RELATIVE poor are inevitable. But through economic growth what we can do is provide the poorest person in the world with a living standard equal to an upper middle-class American today. That's possible.

But it only becomes possible when we accept the inevitability of stark RELATIVE inequality in economic outcomes. Only then will we truly be in a position to grow the economy to the point where the poorest family living in a cardboard box in Calcutta will live like the average family living in Newport Beach today.

101 posted on 05/11/2014 8:52:05 AM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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To: JPX2011
Simple enough question. What’s more important to you, God or the United States?

There's quite a number of us out there (untold millions) who are insulted when you guys equate your religion or a pope with God...Your pope is not God...Your church is not God...

The U.S. for us is far more important than anything Catholic...It should be clear to anyone that God chose the U.S. to be the melting pot of the world and the worldwide dispenser of God's words, the Bible...

102 posted on 05/11/2014 8:56:23 AM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: JPX2011
Only a drunken envious liberal would decry the treasures of the Catholic Church.

The Catholic religion's treasure should be in Heaven not in stowed away gold and jewels as is the instruction from Jesus...

And much (most) of it ill-gotten by thievery or extortion...

103 posted on 05/11/2014 9:05:11 AM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: RaginRak

“That’s because a Pakistani wrote the chart”

Arf, arf.

I almost got murdered in Pakistan myself, back in 1975. One minute I was on a tour, and the next a bunch of diaperheads were setting up a crew-served machine gun on a tripod.

The tour guide was terrified, but to his credit, he was the last one into the van.


104 posted on 05/11/2014 10:21:47 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: usconservative

You’re an idiot.


105 posted on 05/11/2014 10:28:12 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Just mythoughts

Please note that I did not mention them.


106 posted on 05/11/2014 12:50:14 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: jonrick46

“These rates are from 2006 and show Pakistan with 6.81/100,000 murders. The United States has 5.22/100,000 murders, by the way.”

I’ve been thinking about what you posted, and, presuming the figure for Pakistan is accurate, it’s a disgrace that the United States’ murder rate is so close to that of Pakistan.

I would hope that the inaccuracies in these figures would move theirs up and ours down, but that’s just wishful thinking.


107 posted on 05/11/2014 1:52:10 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: imardmd1

The Salvation Army reaches people for Jesus Christ by their charity. My point is God led charity takes people who listen closely to Him. Being told by the Pope, a preacher, or a godless government to do more or make things equal does not work. Nor does forcibly having our ‘charity’ taken from us by taxes or other forms of coercion.

The message should be in the context of reaching the lost, for us to listen to God FIRST, in the best way to reach the lost whether they be poor or rich. Even giving a cold cup of water in His name, to someone can lead them to the Lord. Teaching work and responsibility does come along with that and I think someone like the Salvation Army does that too.


108 posted on 05/11/2014 3:07:41 PM PDT by taterjay
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To: Gene Eric
You’re an idiot.

And you're a self righteous hypocritical pompous jackass.

109 posted on 05/11/2014 3:20:10 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Albion Wilde
Pope Francis is more open to the followers of proscribed Marxist liberation theology than to orthodox traditional Catholics.

According to cardinal Muller, the prefect for the Congregation for the Doctrine of the faith, and he himself a follower of liberation theology, pope Francis have close ties with that Marxist movement.

The Jesuits have been at the front lines of the expansion of the "liberation theology" through out Latin America.

From “Dark REBELLION in the Church” - Jesuits, theology of liberation, Carmelites, Marianists and Socialists: the final complaint.” Ricardo de la Cierva. P. 11-13

“Your theology helps the transformation of Latin America more than millions of books on Marxism” Fidel Castro to Leonardo Boff and Frei Beto in the presence of the Spanish Bishop in Brazil, Pedro Casáldiga, C.M.F., who plays end the phrase in his book Nicaragua, combat and prophecy, Madrid, helped, 1986, p.134

“The Mission of the Jesuits in the third world is to create conflict. We are the only powerful group in the world that makes it.” César Jerez S. J., provincial of Central America 1976-1982, at a meeting of Jesuits in Boston, New England Jesuit News, April, 1973.

“At the same time we Christians are children of a Virgin and a whore (Ivan Illich) and believe that this is the truth.” Ernesto Cardenal, priest and then Minister of Nicaragua, in the biography of J. L. González, Salamanca, “Follow me”, 1978, p.23

“Are the Communists, and not the Jesuits, who are winning the battle of atheism.” Igor Bonchkovski in New Times, n.40, Moscow, 1975

“The national planning of the Society of Jesus in the United States should, following the example of China, become an international planning. Towards the convergence of problems in all areas of the world around a single theme: the construction in different times and forms of a world Communist society.”

Strategic document of a group of Dutch Jesuits - in collaboration with other Jesuit revolutionaries—published for internal debate in the official journal of the society of Jesus in the United States, National Jesuit News, April 1972.

“Socialist societies are very ethical, clean, physically and morally. If it weren’t for his materialist doctrine it could be argued that they carried out the ethical teaching of the social doctrine of the Church.” Leonardo Boff on his return from a trip to Moscow, cfr.ABC, 16-VII-87, p.45

“Marxism provides a scientific understanding of the mechanisms of oppression in the world, at local and national levels; It offers the vision of a new world which must be built as a socialist society, the first step to a classless society, where genuine brotherhood can be hopefully possible, and by which deserves sacrifice everything.” Declaration of the theological Association of India in the magazine Vidyajyoti, of the Theological Faculty of the Jesuits in Delhi, April, 1986

Pope Francis has persecuted traditional Catholics that follow the Tridentine Mass, but it seems to maintain close ties with the leaders of the Marxist liberation theology, a movement condemned by Pope John Paul II and Benedict XVI and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

Pope Francis has affirmed that he has met many Marxists in his life who are good people, so he doesn't feel offended when he's questioned about his Marxist proclivities. I wonder how pope Francis' remarks would have been received if he were referring to the many good people he has met who were Nazis? After all, many more Christians have been murdered and persecuted by the "good Marxists" than by the "good" Nazis.

It is very worrisome that it is the prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, cardinal Muller, he himself a follower of the liberation theology, who confirms that Pope Francis has close ties with the liberation theology, something that is in clear defiance to the Magisterium of the Church.

110 posted on 05/12/2014 10:56:16 AM PDT by Dqban22
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To: JPX2011
"This nation was founded by Protestants"

For that they have my gratitude. But I think it's time we all recognized the experiment in post-enlightenment radical individualism is over. What we see today as we bemoan the loss of our nation is the natual extension of that belief system.

Au contraire, what we see now is the regression towards the mean, which is man's natural pagan, idol-worshipping self when the Word of God is disallowed, discounted and demonized by the liberal/progressive/Marxist left wing -- loudly helped along the way by professing Catholics like Mary Harris "Mother” Jones, Dorothy Day, Thomas J. Hagerty, Gene McCarthy, Joseph Bernardin, Philip and Daniel Berrigan, Robert Drinan, Jeannine Gramick, William J. Brennan, John Roberts, Anthony M. Kennedy, the entire Joe Kennedy clan but especially Teddy Kennedy, Tom Foley, Brian P. Moore, Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, John Podesta, Dennis Kucinich, Helen Prejean, Martin Sheen, Michael Moore, Michael Pfleger, E. J. Dionne; Catholics in Alliance and Catholics United, to name but a few.

111 posted on 05/12/2014 2:11:33 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: JPX2011
the modern secularist protestant view that extols the supremacy of individual above God.

There is no such thing as a secular protestant, in that Protestants cannot be born into their religion; if they are born again, they accept Christ's teachings. If not, they are neither Protestant nor Christian, regardless of what they say. Same is true for Catholics, by the way.

The only major American religious group who can claim secularism along with the word that indicates the religion of their fore parents are those who are ethnically Jewish but do not practice Judaism, since there is a racial characteristic to being recognized as a Jew.

112 posted on 05/12/2014 2:16:24 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: JPX2011; ansel12
what is your solution to remove this Catholic blight from American society?

The doors of many types of evangelical churches are open to any individual seeking God's plan for his or her uniquely individual life, seeing that God created them individually and there are no two alike. The Bible is there for reading and study. There is prayer, individual repentance in one's heart, thousands of readily-available Christ-centered activities in which to participate in fellowship, and millions of ways out of believing that you must belong to the equivalent of a labor union in order to be in favor with God.

113 posted on 05/12/2014 2:23:06 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: ansel12; JPX2011
I guess you know that Protestants vote against abortion, and Catholics vote for it?


114 posted on 05/12/2014 2:26:14 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Gluteus Maximus
So, if stark RELATIVE inequality is as inevitable as the sun rising in the east and setting in the west, then what do we do? Simple. We make RELATIVE inequality as non-consequential as possible by producing so much wealth that in ABSOLUTE terms everybody will be affluent.

Beautiful post. We actually did come close to achieving that in this country -- even our poor were better off than in most other countries, and the rising tide of free markets that lifted all boats by the 1980s and 90s, seeing even the urban poor far better off than the descendants of the pioneers during the Depression and the Dustbowl.

115 posted on 05/12/2014 2:35:58 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: usconservative; Gene Eric
"You’re an idiot."

And you're a self righteous hypocritical pompous jackass.


Hey, get a room, you two.

116 posted on 05/12/2014 2:38:56 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Albion Wilde

I’ve been posting that chart for years.


117 posted on 05/12/2014 2:44:08 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: FlyingEagle

I think he is a humble communist more or less though.


118 posted on 05/12/2014 2:53:48 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: ansel12
I’ve been posting that chart for years.

Good one! Another freeper asked where it came from, and I've had it around for so long, I forgot. Do you recall who first published it?

119 posted on 05/12/2014 3:00:48 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Albion Wilde

Thanks. Why do you suppose it is that conservatives seem to have no grasp of Pareto’s Law?


120 posted on 05/12/2014 6:25:47 PM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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