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No Surprise As East Ukraine Cities Vote Against Kiev
Forbes ^ | 5/12/2014 | Kenneth Rapoza

Posted on 05/12/2014 5:06:13 AM PDT by McGruff

Eastern Ukrainian cities voted to inch closer Moscow and further from Kiev on Sunday, following in the controversial wake of Crimea, a Black Sea peninsula formerly part of Ukraine.

Between 94% and 98% of eligible voters in Ukraine’s eastern provinces of Luhansk and Donetsk both voted for greater autonomy from Kiev, the head of the region’s Central Election Committee said on Monday.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: donetsk; luhansk; ukraine
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To: DoughtyOne; McGruff
Actually, I'm just relieving you of your "putting words in people's mouths" weapon.

That's done.

LOL! :)

61 posted on 05/12/2014 7:57:52 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

Don’t expect DirtyOne to stop.


62 posted on 05/12/2014 7:58:41 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: tcrlaf

Come up with your own list of things the E.U. did in relation to the Ukraine that causes you to call it a NAZI organization.

Protests, and then a President resigning is not a coup. He stepped down. Elections were called. That’s what happens in a Parliamentary system.

Do you call it a coup every time there’s elections in Britain or Israel when their leadership steps down?


63 posted on 05/12/2014 7:59:47 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
Elections called by Russia on Ukrainian soil, once again are held up as the legitimate way to run things in a sovereign nation.

Ironically there's nothing "legitimate" about the Ukrainian government and those who voted yesterday decided they wanted to be "a sovereign nation".

64 posted on 05/12/2014 7:59:49 AM PDT by McGruff (Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
That I know well...

;-)

65 posted on 05/12/2014 8:00:21 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Grzegorz 246

“And Monsanto Nazis.”

Get your taking points correct.

The Ukrainian Nazi’s that aren’t Nazi’s are actually Not-A-Nazi Nazi’s.

Get it?


66 posted on 05/12/2014 8:01:03 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Except that KIEV is the legitimate government.

Putin has no legitimate standing in the Ukraine.


67 posted on 05/12/2014 8:01:22 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: McGruff

Why can’t some here just root for neither side, (the proper thing to do) and just agree to stay out of this?

Do we have to intervene in Libya, Syria, Egypt and now Ukraine?

What next, intervene today in Ukraine, and tomorrow the world? Talk about giving McCain and the McCainiacs a rush.


68 posted on 05/12/2014 8:01:49 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: DoughtyOne

“The President resigned”

COMPLETELY INCORRECT.

The cabinet resigned, but yanko DID NOT.
He fled, due to the threat of violence by the Maidan Radicals.

That is called a Coup D’etat.

To call it anything else is simply disingenuous, or worse, lying.


69 posted on 05/12/2014 8:03:25 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: kiryandil

Well you can pat yourself on your back all you want. I support that. I laugh at you, but there’s nothing new in that.

As for me putting words in folks mouth, if they are going to advocate for something in other nations, then they should be able to understand how it would look if done in our own.

If you are too shallow to grasp that, then by all means, toss more hissy fits and pat yourself on the back.


70 posted on 05/12/2014 8:03:49 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: tcrlaf

LOL, his cabinet resigned and to you this is an outside coup.

No, it’s a mass resignation. His own cabinet had no confidence in the guy.

Seriously, why do you keep mischaracterizing what took place?

Did the president simply replace his cabinet? No.

So what did he do? Did he step down? Yes. And what is that if not a resignation?


71 posted on 05/12/2014 8:06:08 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne

“Except that KIEV is the legitimate government.”

And a significant percentage of Ukrainian Citizens do not agree with you.

The ELECTED Government that those people supported was overthrown in a violent coup.

OH WAIT...
That was a Not-A-Coup Coup, wasn’t it?


72 posted on 05/12/2014 8:06:18 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: DoughtyOne

Keep on with the desperate spin, if you like, but facts are facts.

You sound like Nancy Pelosi.


73 posted on 05/12/2014 8:07:16 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

If it was a coup, why were elections called for May 16th?

The government was already seated according to you. There would be no need of an election if there had been an actual coup.


74 posted on 05/12/2014 8:08:02 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: tcrlaf

Look, if you folks don’t want to get called on using the improper terms, and having it explained to you how a parliamentary system works, then don’t make wild comments.

You are using terms that are not accurate.


75 posted on 05/12/2014 8:09:39 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Speaking of losers, McCain must be fuming today. With all his support for overthrowing the Ukrainian government Russia ended up getting all the good parts of Ukraine. Putin should publicly thank McCain for getting involved.


76 posted on 05/12/2014 8:09:41 AM PDT by McGruff (Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; McGruff
Why can’t some here just root for neither side, (the proper thing to do) and just agree to stay out of this?

Exactly. It's none of my business, and none of my country's business.

McGruff just posted an interesting Ukraine news article about the Luhansk & Donetsk Oblasts. He didn't appear to be advocating US or EU intervention.

Then suddenly, we have all these thread-jackers acting like Jimmah Carter and the New American-Roman Empire need to be "overseeing" things in the Ukraine Oblasts.

WTH?

77 posted on 05/12/2014 8:09:46 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: McGruff
Speaking of losers, McCain must be fuming today. With all his support for overthrowing the Ukrainian government Russia ended up getting all the good parts of Ukraine. Putin should publicly thank McCain for getting involved.

It is to laugh.

LOL! :)

78 posted on 05/12/2014 8:10:34 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: tcrlaf; DoughtyOne

Don’t let him put words in your mouth. That’s how he operates.


79 posted on 05/12/2014 8:11:25 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

I know this is kind of a tough place for fragile people.

I am worried about you. Are you okay?


80 posted on 05/12/2014 8:12:30 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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