Posted on 05/12/2014 8:19:50 AM PDT by marktwain
The officer is not a rookie, has more than five years as an officer, and his previous shooting looks completely justified.
Half of Hearnes City Council voted out on same day police officer fired
http://www.khou.com/news/texas-news/Half-of-Hearnes-City-Council-voted-out-on-same-day-police-officer-fired-258820081.html
The same day the Hearne City Council voted unanimously to terminate the police officer who shot and killed a 93-year-old woman, half of them are voted out themselves.
According to a report from KBTX, Lashunda White heavily defeated Place 2 Councilman Larry Welch with 58 percent of the vote. The 589 votes for White to 425 votes for Welch is by far the biggest margin of victory in the council races.
Matthew Gomez, the son of Hearnes mayor, was beat by challenger Hazel Embra. Embra received just 39 more votes (540-501) than Gomez. But it was enough to give her 52 percent of the votes and the Place 4 seat.
In a loss that is sure to sting, Councilman Steven Catalina lost to challenger Joyce Rattler by just one vote (509-508). It is unclear whether Catalina will ask for a recount.
Welch, Gomez and Catalina joined the rest of the city council Saturday afternoon for a special meeting to discuss whether to keep Officer Stephen Stem on the police force. They voted 6-0 to fire him, just five hours before the polls closed.
She shot twice.
Knee jerk racial BS.
Maybe the next person in the position of the nephew should call Q-10 and see how he would deal with the situation. Particularly after she starts firing the gun.
Remember people, life is fragile.
That applies to everyone.
Should this old lady have been shot? I dunno, but she was the one to escalate the situation.
Should this cops life be ruined?
Tragic all around.
Just tragic.
I think there is a lot of sympathy that she was 93 and “she” was a “she”.
Had the deceased been say a 33 year old male, and fired two shots in the ground in front of the officer, most of us would likely be thinking the officer was justified.
tough call on his part. damned if you do damned if you don’t.
Oh yeah, and I think she was black.
You try popping off a few rounds “into the ground “ in front of an officer.
Yer gonna get killed. It aint a game.
When you call the police to help you deal with an elderly person who is likely experiencing mental health issues, they should not respond in the same manner as they do to a criminal assault.
I'm not finding a 93 year-old woman firing 2 shots into the ground to be tremendously dangerous. Yes, yes, potentially dangerous, but not likely. If I was there and the police weren't, I think I would have retreated and given her some room to diffuse. Most likely outcome would have been her going back in and taking a nap.
I suspect that the cop in this case had no idea what the situation was when he pulled up, which speaks to problems with 911. IMHO cops on physical disability should be put on 911 duty, where their experience would be very helpful.
Bottom line: If you have friend or family member who has a mental break and isn't responding rationally, don't call the police. They aren't apparently trained to diffuse such situations, move straight to confrontation, and use lethal force when your obviously non-compliant loved one continues to be non-compliant.
It is amazing what cops can get away with and what they can’t. They can raid the wrong house, shoot dogs, arrest people for “resisting arrest,” and violate citizens rights in general without punishment. However if a protected minority (twofer, elderly and black) is firing off a revolver Yosemite Sam style and they shoot back that is a bridge too far for the politicians.
For the most part.... what cops really excel at is running a radar gun and writing revenue generation tickets to basically decent people who happen to be driving more than 7 mph over the posted limit.
There’s the rub.
“They aren’t apparently trained to diffuse such situations”
Actually most larger and medium sized agency officers are well trained and receive in-service training periodically on the subject. He had a person in a reportedly domestic disturbance fire two rounds in front of him. Arm chairing is easy. What if she kept firing and one of her rounds ricocheted and hit someone? What then?
“Bottom line: If you have friend or family member who has a mental break and isn’t responding rationally, don’t call the police. They aren’t apparently trained to diffuse such situations, move straight to confrontation, and use lethal force when your obviously non-compliant loved one continues to be non-compliant.”
We had a similar “incident” in the neighboring city of San Ramon, CA. A friend called the cops because she was concerned about a resident ( small Asian female) with whom she had just had a telecom. The caller asked the SRPD ( really the Contra Costa Sheriff’s Dept. because SR is a “contract city,”) to go see if the woman was o.k. She opened the door, saw the cops and ran to her kitchen and picked up a knife. Whereupon the cops shot her to death. There really isn’t any justification for these kinds of acts on the part of cops. It’s as though any pretext is sufficient to kill someone ( or their pet). I would not call the cops for anything!
Sounds like the old lady committed suicide-by-cop. She had just failed her drivers license renewal test, and I guess she felt that she had nothing left to live for without her mobility.
“They arent apparently trained to diffuse such situations
Actually most larger and medium sized agency officers are well trained and receive in-service training periodically on the subject. He had a person in a reportedly domestic disturbance fire two rounds in front of him. Arm chairing is easy. What if she kept firing and one of her rounds ricocheted and hit someone? What then?”
When one shoots there are consequences. Had Granny Dearest fired one shot in front of me, let alone two shots, any reasoned and prudent person would assume their life to be in danger and thus return fire would be justifiable.
Because the officer is white and the female was black and elderly is mere official cowardice, probably due to Jackson/Sharpton Fear Syndrome.
I agree-in my former profession, we were trained to instruct relatives of clients who were emotionally unstable how to restrain the client, to call others familiar with the situation to defuse the situation peacefully-maybe some extra time and effort is better than a dead, innocent relative?
We never, ever advised they to call the cops for a family argument unless someone was being held hostage in a barricaded building by an assailant with an arsenal-it is ridiculous-cops are for real crimes, they are not mental health professionals...
Sorry-”advised them”...
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