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Merkel and Hollande Urge Kiev to Start Dialog with Ukraine's Regions Before [May 25th] Elections
NSNBC International ^ | 5/10/2014 | Christoff Lehmann

Posted on 05/13/2014 7:35:24 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

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To: tcrlaf

Sucks to be you with all of your Russian propaganda falling flat on its face.

Russia’s stooge is back in Russia.
The insurgents are bottled up in their own traps, unable to vote in the elections, and Putin is out of options except for invasion.

Russian propaganda of Putin being the chess master is being put to bed.


21 posted on 05/13/2014 9:05:23 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: rbmillerjr

You aren’t paying attention to current events, are you....


22 posted on 05/13/2014 9:07:08 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: rbmillerjr

I love how idiots believe that a parlaiment of public officials surrounded by gunmen will publicly vote free of intimidation, but that the Crimea election was invalid because there were Russian troops present.

Here’s a little history: In 1991, Crimea voted to join Ukraine in departing Russia on the pretext that it would be wholly autonomous. In 1992, Ukraine unilaterally suspended that autonomy. In 1996, Crimea voted 86%-13% to be citizens of Russia. The Ukrainian president nullified the results, ousted the Crimean president, suspended the Crimean legislature and declared autocratic rule over Crimea.


23 posted on 05/13/2014 9:09:17 AM PDT by dangus
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LOL, you may want to note that Russian troops are foreign troops.

But it is nice to see that you respect the Russian troop history of putting down the Hungarian and Czech revolts to throw off the bar of Russian oppression.

And their history of free loving presence in EGermany, Poland and other nations.

Why...their reputation precedes them.


24 posted on 05/13/2014 9:28:46 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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25 posted on 05/13/2014 9:52:39 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: rbmillerjr

It’s just so wierd to me to read so much belief in racial guilt on FR.


26 posted on 05/13/2014 10:14:23 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Realpolitik, 2014?


27 posted on 05/13/2014 3:23:08 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: tcrlaf

Both seem to be modern day Chamberlains.


28 posted on 05/14/2014 10:01:53 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: tcrlaf
The people decided to depose their pro-Russian crony, yes. Meanwhile it is Russia who has inserted special forces into the Ukraine.
29 posted on 05/14/2014 10:03:36 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: rbmillerjr

The Putin lovers can’t help themselves.


30 posted on 05/14/2014 10:05:26 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Interesting that this appears to be the same time Senator Cruz is going to Ukraine to see things for himself as he stated......if I'm correct....though not traveling with them of course.

Merkle and Holland ‘definitely’ show the split in the EU/US relationship over Ukraine. Even those of the Atlantic Council make public statements that the EU/Nato is also cat fighting over Ukraine.

The older cold war horses continue to push the EU/NATO push for Moldova, Georgia and others surrounding the Sea....while those who understand the situation through the times as they are today have to battle these war horses to arrive even at getting any diplomacy worthwhile to act on.

There's a true “generation gap” going on as well. But these next elections for EU Parliament, and nation leaders, very soon, may just bring in a bunch with far better level heads....though the push for Global Governance will not be stopped.

31 posted on 05/14/2014 10:37:45 AM PDT by caww
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There are negotiations going on inside EUkraine right now.

Guess who refuses to participate?

The subversives holed up illegally in government buildings. They have a few days left to surrender their weapons and come out to vote.

They would fit right in, in Russia. They prefer fake voting but don’t wish to actually vote.

Losing credibility by the day and Russia seems to have forgotten their cause.


32 posted on 05/14/2014 10:55:23 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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....”Guess who refuses to participate?”....

you got it wrong again....they were not invited to this meeting for in doing so it would politically acknowledge the recent referendum and they won't do that.

Putin knew these meetings were planned, unfortunately the people on the ground didn't listen when he said to delay the referendum...so they aren't invited for obvious political reasons.

Further the battle in the East will intensify because of the military/industrial park there...and that isn't small change....without it Kiev has nothing the EU wants now that Crimea and the oil is in Russia's hands. And Putin isn't going to let go of those facilities without a fight.

Sheesh..get with the program will ya!

33 posted on 05/14/2014 11:29:55 AM PDT by caww
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RINOs have trouble when it comes to “getting with the program.” Too busy calling for unending interventionism in every inch of the planet...


34 posted on 05/15/2014 8:39:10 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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