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Public School Teacher To North Carolina Senate: 'I Am Embarrassed To Confess: I Am A Teacher'
BI ^ | 5-14-2014 | Caroline Moss

Posted on 05/14/2014 6:47:00 AM PDT by blam

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To: C. Edmund Wright

“I catch your first mistake and do not read 99% of what you write…you are close minded and don’t even understand what I’m saying.”

If I had to provide an example of ‘projection’ to a person writing a psychology text, this is what I’d use.

So you want to keep mandating that everyone pay for the schools, regardless of whether you have a kid going to school, but you want to give the money to parents so that they can pick which school they want to send the kid.

That’s not exactly free enterprise at work, but I agree that is probably the way it should work. K-12 is a private benefit with a public interest attached. Everyone benefits from an educated populace, and I realize how debatable this last opinion is.

Again, the research shows if parents had to pay, and even if they had the tax money in their pockets, they would choose not to send them to school.

You have to realize that if you collect money from everyone for education, the way you would for water and sewer, the view by many that education is a public utility that should stay public is going to be difficult to shake.


81 posted on 05/16/2014 10:28:32 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (.)
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To: RinaseaofDs

I dismissed what this teacher said after I saw the complaint that they aren’t paid enough. In this country we spend far too much on education and get negative returns.


82 posted on 05/16/2014 10:33:05 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

Right now they are being asked to surrogate parent the kid. For what they are making, its not enough.

The mandates as to what a school must do are piling up on the public schools. This is in response to what is not happening at home.

That she can’t communicate this well is further symptom of the issue.

The only magical thing about private schools is that they can choose to expel the kids they don’t want to teach.

However, you can only talk about the cost of education with respect to either an individual state, or an individual district. The numbers are all over the map. In DC, they ladle the money on, and nothing changes. In small school districts, they share textbooks.


83 posted on 05/16/2014 10:52:44 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (.)
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To: wideawake
They also get 2 or 3 hours off each day compared to other workers.

If a teacher is walking out the door at 3:00 then they are a lousy teacher. The ones at my kids private school very often work 60+ hours a week (at night and on weekends) and get paid 20% less than public school. They aren't in it for the money.

84 posted on 05/16/2014 10:56:34 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: RinaseaofDs

Abolish public education is the right answer


85 posted on 05/16/2014 11:06:33 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: RinaseaofDs
You have to realize that if you collect money from everyone for education, the way you would for water and sewer, the view by many that education is a public utility that should stay public is going to be difficult to shake.

What a dinosaur you are. Yes, it might be difficult to shake, but so was the King George Habit. So was slavery. So was first alcohol, then prohibition, difficult to shake. So what??? Doesn't change the FACT of what I said, that if this was changed, a massive market would emerge rapidly and efficiently. And FTR, people need to stop thinking public money is for anyone OTHER than the children schools serve - meaning having the parents of that child decide where the exact same amount of public resources was going is the only way to go. You are sososososososo 1950s.

86 posted on 05/16/2014 12:40:22 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Then abolish the tax, and abolish the schools. Give everyone a tax cut.

Good luck.


87 posted on 05/16/2014 2:00:43 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (.)
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To: RinaseaofDs

you really are thick. You just are too thick to follow an adult conversation. Obviously a public school student, and probably now PS teacher or bureaucrat.


88 posted on 05/16/2014 2:12:12 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

“you really are thick. You just are too thick to follow an adult conversation. Obviously a public school student, and probably now PS teacher or bureaucrat.”

I don’t want to hit this next point to hard, but the key to knowing your opponent is out of rhetorical points is that he, or she, starts using insults.

Every Democrat in politics does the same thing, and every liberal that can’t articulate their position as well.

And you are wrong, again. I went to a Catholic School until eighth grade, and then public school through college. The Catholic school left me so disadvantaged mathematically that I thank God that we had the PSAT prior to the SAT, or I’d have been caught flat footed. The nuns decided math wasn’t a priority in the middle school grades (science either) and let that slide. I studied for a year to put back the math I’d lost and did well on the SAT.

I graduated from one of the five federal military academies with a BSEE.

I’ve owned small businesses since I left the service. I’ve launched two, and built three software products from concept to market. I own a software company and consulting firm.

All I am pointing out is what I see out there. Some use the PS system as a ticket out. Some don’t, and nothing will change the fact that some kids won’t realize until it is too late all the great free stuff they had at their fingertips and lost.

If you are done with the insults, and want to have a real adult conversation about business models in education, check out College of the Ozarks. There was a piece in the WSJ about it today.

While it is true they have a $400M endowment to work from, the rest is a thing of beauty, and appears to be replicable for many majors.

And I maintain charters are still probably the best way forward. Some schools are going to end up being sink traps full of irredeemable kids.

I don’t think you could do a ‘College of the Ozarks’ for K-12. Montessori schools are hit and miss, and not everyone can do home schooling.


89 posted on 05/19/2014 8:46:09 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (.)
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