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7 Things to Know About Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) [September 28th 2013]
NBC News ^ | September 28th 2013

Posted on 05/16/2014 8:34:57 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

1. Sen. Ted Cruz was born on Dec. 22, 1970 in Calgary, Alberta, Canada to a Cuban father and an American mother. When questions arose about his eligibility to run for president, Cruz released his birth certificate. From the article in The Dallas Morning News:

Dated a month after his birth on Dec. 22, 1970, it shows that Rafael Edward Cruz was born to Rafael Bienvenido Cruz, a “geophysical consultant” born in Matanzas, Cuba, and the former Eleanor Elizabeth Wilson, born in Wilmington, Del.

Her status made the baby a U.S. citizen at birth. For that, U.S. law required at least one parent who was a U.S. citizen who had lived for at least a decade in the United States.

She registered his birth with the U.S. consulate, Frazier said, and the future senator received a U.S. passport in 1986 ahead of a high school trip to England.

2. His father was imprisoned as part of Fidel Castro’s movement to overthrow Cuban dictator Fulgencio Batista in the 1950s. From a 2006 profile of then-Texas solicitor general Cruz by the Austin American-Statesman:

Cruz's father rarely spoke of his sacrifice. Cruz learned of it in bits and pieces from his grandparents, aunts and uncles. Rafael Cruz loathed oppression and was willing to die to end it. "He was a guerrilla, throwing Molotov cocktails and blowing up buildings."

Battista's soldiers beat the elder Cruz in prison, and only his own father's bribe freed him in 1957. While earning a degree in mathematics at UT, Cruz spoke to Austin business groups, lauding Castro's revolution. After the victory in 1959, hearing from relatives what Castro was doing, Cruz returned to those same business groups to apologize, Ted Cruz said.

"My father has been my hero my whole life," he said.

3. His education in conservatism came early on. His teacher from an after-school education program picked him to be part of a traveling show about the Constitution. From The Weekly Standard:

Story chose four or five of his best students, led by Cruz, to join a traveling troupe called the Constitutional Corroborators. He hired a mnemonic specialist to teach them how to memorize the text of the Constitution up through the Bill of Rights. (Who wants to memorize the Eleventh Amendment?) Armed with an easel and felt pens, with Mrs. Moore or another parent at the wheel, the corroborators drove throughout Texas and occasionally beyond to breakfasts, lunches, or dinners held by the Rotary Club or Kiwanis or the VFW or any other civic group with an open slot for speakers. While the audience sawed away at the Chicken a la King, the corroborators wrote out various articles of the Constitution word for word. When the meal was over they’d take questions.

“The people just loved them,” Mrs. Moore says. “They knew so much, people couldn’t believe it! And you had to be a very polished speaker. Ted really worked at it. He’d practice at home in front of the mirror to get everything just right.” 

4. He was a champion debater during his undergraduate years at Princeton. But after one particular round, Cruz and his partner faced off against the other team in a different competition. From Slate:

Cruz competed against and lost to former White House economic adviser Austan Goolsbee in the American Parliamentary Debate Association's 1991 Team of the Year* contest. (Cruz went on to win in 1992.) Goolsbee's debate partner, David Gray, recalled that after beating Cruz and his partner, David Panton, one team challenged the other to a pickup basketball game. As Gray remembers it, Goolsbee was matched up to guard Cruz, and proceeded to trash-talk Cruz up and down the court.

"Austan can be very, very funny. He kept challenging Ted to shoot the ball from outlandishly long places—'I bet you $20 you can't make a shot from right here,' " Gray said. "Austan would bait Ted to shoot, shoot, shoot, and it was not a good result for him. ... Ted couldn’t help himself from taking the shots." Princeton lost the game.

5. Cruz keeps a reminder in his Senate office of the first time he argued in front of the Supreme Court. From a GQ profile by Jason Zengerle:

But all along, what kept drawing my eye was a giant oil painting above the couch depicting Cruz as he delivered the first of his nine oral arguments before the Supreme Court. "I was 32 years old," he recalled. "It was abundantly clear we didn't have a prayer.... And I've always enjoyed the fact that as I'm sitting at my desk, I'm looking at a giant painting of me getting my rear end whipped 9-0." He gazed at the wall. It is an unusual painting: From the artist's vantage point, we see three other courtroom artists, each also drawing Cruz—so the painting actually features not one but four images of young Cruz before the bench. "It is helpful," he explained to me, "for keeping one grounded."

6. Cruz met a future Senate counterpart during a 2010 meeting of the Federalist Society in Washington. From the GQ article

He'd been out of government for two years and was looking for a way back in, this time via election. The only real opening in Texas, though, was a U.S. Senate seat—an impossible reach for Cruz, who'd never even held elected office. 

But at the meeting, he met someone who had pulled off that exact feat: Utah senator-elect Mike Lee. Like Cruz, Lee had been a creature of the conservative legal movement, having clerked for Samuel Alito on the Supreme Court. Like Cruz, he had left Washington to become a government lawyer back home. And like Cruz, he had never before run for office. But he rode the Tea Party wave of 2010 into the Senate, ousting an incumbent Republican by running to his right. After the Federalist Society meeting, Lee and Cruz took a long walk around the Capitol. "We talked about every conceivable political and constitutional issue," Lee recalls. "I concluded we were kindred spirits." 

7. Cruz typically likes to wear a pair of cowboy boots he calls his “argument boots.” But he ditched them for his 21-hour speech on the Senate floor this week. From the Star-Telegram:

Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., reminded him during the first hours of Cruz' crusade on the Senate floor against Obamacare to wear comfortable shoes.

Cruz said he remembered that Paul had touted comfortable shoes after the Kentucky senator's filibuster against drone use in the U.S. earlier this year.

"I will embarrassingly admit that I took the coward's way," said Cruz. The Texan wore black tennis shoes instead. 


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 05/16/2014 8:34:57 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie; tpmintx; TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig; Caipirabob; Clump; ColdOne; Monterrosa-24; ...
Ted Cruz Ping!

If you want on/off this ping list, please let me know.

Please beware, this is a high-volume ping list!
2 posted on 05/16/2014 8:35:28 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

I like Cruz, Perry and Col. West.


3 posted on 05/16/2014 8:40:37 AM PDT by ZULU (https://www.facebook.com/freejustina)
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To: ZULU

If Cruz isn’t the nominee for 2016, I probably won’t be voting.


4 posted on 05/16/2014 8:43:26 AM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: SoConPubbie; All
Hmmm? ...snarky "Hit" piece; no surprises!
..Nothing But Clinton..mis-information

5 posted on 05/16/2014 8:47:24 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Bathhouse/"Rustler" Reid? :-)
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To: SoConPubbie

God Bless Senators Cruz and Lee!

BUT it is also up to us to support them and the real conservatives against the Dems/ Libs
That means we must vote
We let them down in 2012( even as we Texans elected Cruz)
Those who chose NOT to vote for Romney for whatever reason might as well as voted for the POS 0dumbo.
If Bugs bunny is running at the GOP candidate in 2016 we must vote for him.

Can anyone who did not vote for Romney because they didn’t like some of his views honestly say that POS we got is better than Romney would have been?

Thanks for the article. Hopefully it gets people thinking


6 posted on 05/16/2014 8:49:00 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

And if he is, this is just the opener for nbc. This is their version of a hit piece. They’re very busy talking to all shopkeepers to find just a piece of soil on his wife

They never talk about him, they have nothing (bad) to say about him


7 posted on 05/16/2014 8:53:32 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

At this point I’d have to agree. Unless someone new pops out of the woodwork Cruz is the only candidate that I believe at this time that I could pull the lever for.


8 posted on 05/16/2014 9:00:13 AM PDT by pgkdan (ISLAM IS THE RELIGION OF THE ANTICHRIST!)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

About that Screen name...are you a Bernard Cornwell fan?


9 posted on 05/16/2014 9:01:25 AM PDT by pgkdan (ISLAM IS THE RELIGION OF THE ANTICHRIST!)
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To: pgkdan
Yes. IMHO, Cornwell is the best historical fiction writer currently still writing. His unabashed Britaino-centric attitude is refreshing, although it means I can't really enjoy his novels set in the American Revolution. Iggulden is okay as well, but there aren't many others.

I experimented with Giles Kristian but I found myself getting bored quickly.

10 posted on 05/16/2014 9:11:08 AM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: RWGinger
Those who chose NOT to vote for Romney for whatever reason might as well as voted for the POS 0dumbo.

I was with you right up to that piece of garbage thinking.

I don't vote for traitors to my morals and principles just because the individual has an 'R' next to his name or because the election 'du jour' opponent is worse.

Romney supported/supports the Gay agenda, and he supported/supports Abortion.

I don't support an evil person, even if, the other person is more evil.

Do you consider yourself a Christian?

If so, how could you vote for either knowing both took positions diametrically opposed to Chrisitianity?
11 posted on 05/16/2014 9:13:09 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Not sure Ted is eligble if he was born in Canada.


12 posted on 05/16/2014 9:27:28 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
I love Corwell too. Just finished 'The Pagan Lord' and loved it! I've read just about all of his historical books and when I'm into them can't put them down. I've read the Sharpe series 3 times, The Arthur series twice, The Saxon series twice, and everything else at least once.

I'd also recommend Patrick O'Brien's Aubrey and Maturin series if you haven't tried them yet. It's a 21 book series but each book is just an extended chapter in a long, addictive novel.

13 posted on 05/16/2014 9:35:25 AM PDT by pgkdan (ISLAM IS THE RELIGION OF THE ANTICHRIST!)
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To: bjorn14
Not sure Ted is eligble if he was born in Canada.

Please point out the relevant clause from the US Constitution that clearly and unambiguously states that a U.S. citizen must be born on US Soil and have TWO US Citizen Parents at birth to be considered Natural Born.

Lacking that, please point out the relevant law passed by the US Congress and signed by a US President that clearly and unambiguously states that a U.S. citizen must be born on US Soil and have TWO US Citizen Parents at birth to be considered Natural Born.

Lacking that, please point out the relevant ruling by the US Supreme Court that establishes that a U.S. citizen must be born on US Soil and have TWO US Citizen Parents at birth to be considered Natural Born.
14 posted on 05/16/2014 9:36:55 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: pgkdan
...I'd also recommend Patrick O'Brien's Aubrey and Maturin series...

Truly addicting.

15 posted on 05/16/2014 9:42:36 AM PDT by bubbacluck (America 180)
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To: RWGinger
Those who chose NOT to vote for Romney for whatever reason might as well as voted for the POS 0dumbo.

So, then, it was romney who elected Obama. He told social conservatives to get lost. They did.

16 posted on 05/16/2014 10:07:59 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

bump

I am always amazed when people get upset at those who refuse to vote for liberals, on this forum of all places


17 posted on 05/16/2014 10:09:49 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

I am also amazed how often these same people look back and try to justify their deserting their principles. It’s beginning to strike me as a guilty conscience.


18 posted on 05/16/2014 10:15:00 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: SoConPubbie

How could I vote for Romney over 0dumbo, knowing that if I didn’t vote for Romney I increased that POS BO’s chances of winning?
EASY REally EASY
Because the areas that a POTUS and party in power control has a huge effect on our entire country. and I am proven right in what the vile POS has done just since his re-election.
There are several areas of consideration for my vote. there will NEVER be a candidate who agrees with me in every area
but I considered the harm BO would do, the harm that is destroying our nation

That YOU, even knowing the Godless BO not only supported abortion and gay marriage but could also issue executive orders expanding both, would not vote against him I find sad.
We should agree to disagree on what Romney might have done on your 2 issues but I know you can see what the evil BO did


19 posted on 05/16/2014 10:15:57 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: RWGinger
That YOU, even knowing the Godless BO not only supported abortion and gay marriage but could also issue executive orders expanding both, would not vote against him I find sad.

We should agree to disagree on what Romney might have done on your 2 issues but I know you can see what the evil BO did


Your problem is that you could not see that Romney was just as Godless, but much more duplicitous about it.

You can't support Abortion or the Gay Agenda and be a Christian, period.

You don't support Murder or the sin of Homosexuality which God calls Abomination, and get to honestly call yourself a Christian, period.

This isn't, as you say, "what Romney might have done", it's about his STATED positions.

BOTH Zero AND Romney were/are Godless, but you have as yet refused to be honest with yourself about Romney being Godless.

I supported neither, I voted for an actual conservative AND A Christian for POTUS in 2012.

I walked away from the "Beaten Wife" syndrome that you are still caught up in by falling for the tired and worn "Lesser of two Evils" manipulation of the GOP-E.

I expect that eventually, given that I believe you are sincere, you will do that also.

I leave you with the wise words of one of our Founders:

"If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures." - Alexander Hamilton
20 posted on 05/16/2014 10:27:42 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: GeronL

I can certainly understand someone NOT voting for Romney... ANOTHER RINO given to us by the GOP.

I FELT the same way but gave him my vote, if only to vote AGAINST the piece of crap who’s POTUS now. I actually thought Romney would win. I thought the American people had wised up some.

Silly me, stupid libs, who were complaining about obama prior to 2012, went right out and voted for him again! Their only argument was the poor choice on the GOP ticket.

I live in the Detroit area, so my vote doesn’t seriously count in a national election. We go democrat no matter what.

Local elections are WAY more important now. We really need to shape up on those and get some good folks into the system at the ground level. -and HOPE they don’t go RINO when/if they get to DC...

I just don’t know...


21 posted on 05/16/2014 10:29:58 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: SoConPubbie

if you are happy with your vote then good for you.

Are you as happy with what has and is happening to our country since Jan 2013? and the effects of hat he as done just since Jan 2013 will linger and cause anguish to our nation for years and generations?

There was a way to prevent it.


22 posted on 05/16/2014 10:33:05 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

You wouldn’t vote for Perry or West?


23 posted on 05/16/2014 10:45:32 AM PDT by ZULU (https://www.facebook.com/freejustina)
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To: RWGinger
There was a way to prevent it.

Not without violating your conscience and displeasing God there wasn't.

Do yourself a favor and read the history of Israel in the Old Testament.

When they walked away from God, they were punished with Bad Leadership in the form of evil Kings.

2 Chronicles 7:14
King James Version (KJV)

14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
24 posted on 05/16/2014 10:45:44 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

AS I said we should just agree to disagree
The harm that re electing the godless BO is causing more harm to more people than Romney’s changing of his views on abortion and gay marriage.

I think God is just just as concerned the plight of our nation and the harm being done to generations. God doesn’t have a narrow list of issues. He sees the whole picture and the good that can come of getting a conservative party back in power.


25 posted on 05/16/2014 10:59:54 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: RWGinger
I think God is just just as concerned the plight of our nation and the harm being done to generations. God doesn’t have a narrow list of issues. He sees the whole picture and the good that can come of getting a conservative party back in power.

Your view and understanding of God is lacking.

Please do yourself a favor and read both the Old and New Testament.

Yes, he is concerned about the plight of our nation, and that is directly correlated, by His anger at the sin of our nation.

Remember what God did to the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah?

Why? Because they were exceedingly wicked and refused to repent. One of the sins they were known for famously, was Homosexuality.

He destroyed other nations because they sacrificed their children to their Gods.

What do you think his judgement will be against a nation that murders their babies to the tune of several million every year, for selfishness sake?
26 posted on 05/16/2014 11:04:43 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: ZULU
West I would vote for, but I don't see any chance of him running; same with Palin.

Perry would not be my first choice, due to his squishiness on the border issue.

27 posted on 05/16/2014 11:11:00 AM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Its just CRUCIAL that SOMEHOW the conservative wing of the GOP which is OVER 50% of us, coalesce behind the SAME conservative in the Primary, or the RINOs will win by default as they did with Romney in 2012.

HOW that can be accomplished is for brighter minds than mine but I would be more than willing to assist.


28 posted on 05/16/2014 11:19:57 AM PDT by ZULU (https://www.facebook.com/freejustina)
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To: SoConPubbie

A POTUS can’t overturn a Supreme Court decision
a decision that has been in place for over 40 years
A POTUS and his party in power MIGHT be able to start a campaign to overturn the SCOTUS decision
although sadly that hasn’t happened.

A POTUS can issue EO’s affecting gay marriage . Romney has never indicated he would take any such action. His view has been that gay people deserve CIVIL unions. He never said he favored church unions for gay people.

Serious question; viewing reality do you think there is any chance of reversing what BO has done?


29 posted on 05/16/2014 11:38:28 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: RWGinger
A POTUS can issue EO’s affecting gay marriage . Romney has never indicated he would take any such action. His view has been that gay people deserve CIVIL unions. He never said he favored church unions for gay people.

Why you would believe the words of such an accomplished and prolific liar as Mitt Romney is beyond me.

His lies have been documented over and over and over again on FreeRepublic and yet you are still believing him?

He single-handedly (and unconstitutionally) implemented Gay Marriage in Massachusetts while falsely claiming that the Supreme Court was forcing his hand.

While all the time claiming he believe that Marriage was between a man and a woman.
30 posted on 05/16/2014 12:06:13 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: RWGinger
Serious question; viewing reality do you think there is any chance of reversing what BO has done?

Yes I do.

There are several ways it can be turned around legally and one, outside the rule of law, armed rebellion.
31 posted on 05/16/2014 12:07:23 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: RWGinger
A POTUS and his party in power MIGHT be able to start a campaign to overturn the SCOTUS decision although sadly that hasn’t happened.

And sadly, Romney was never going to do that. From August 27th, 2012:

(CBS News) In an interview with CBS Evening News anchor Scott Pelley, Mitt Romney said his views on abortion rights are more lenient than those put forward in the Republican party platform.

"My position has been clear throughout this campaign," Romney said. "I'm in favor of abortion being legal in the case of rape and incest, and the health and life of the mother."

32 posted on 05/16/2014 12:12:14 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

‘There are several ways it can be turned around legally “
Explain HOW that could be done without taking the WH , keeping the House and at least cutting into the Senate Dem numbers

a rebellion? Really?
Look it would be nice of everyone could stick ONLY to all their positions but that can never happen. You might favor 10 positions, the next guy favors 8 of your 10 but then favors 2 you disagree with etc etc etc
I think we ALL can agree on less federal government control. more state and local and for sure keeping as much gov’t out o our lives as possible

so you favor rebellion as I hope a last resort?
who will You kill in the name of your rebellion?


33 posted on 05/16/2014 1:10:23 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: RWGinger

Romney was pro-abortion, he came out against the party’s pro-life platform, and ran pro-choice ads in Virginia, Wisconsin, and Ohio, and lost them.

He was in our face, and you think we should have made him head of the party, and president for up to 8 years, to reshape the GOP in his image?


34 posted on 05/16/2014 2:25:01 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12

bump


35 posted on 05/16/2014 2:27:43 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: ansel12

IIRC Romney campaigned on the fact that he would not be trying to change the SCOTUS decision
something no other POTUS has done either in over 40 years
But don’t forget that POS BO sated openly he not only believes in abortion for everyone including his daughters he thinks taxpayers should pay and he is for killing born alive babies

so I can’t understand why anyone would NOT vote for someone who had a chance when not voting made sure we got the POS for 4 more years
One can have all the convictions one wants but when ignoring the consequences of not voting allowed a baby killing evil POS to remain in office it is hard to admire those kind of convictions


36 posted on 05/16/2014 2:43:39 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: RWGinger; GeronL

Mitt Romney said himself that he was campaigning on “health” of the mother, which means pro-abortion, and disagreeing with the GOP’s pro-life platform.

Romney then ran pro-choice ads in three states, costing him those states.

When a lifelong and passionate promoter of abortion makes it part of his campaign, after winning the nomination by swearing that he had reversed his aggressively public pro-abortion position he had held since at least 1963, then he is in your face, and forcing you to make a hard decision, choose him and lose the pro-life movement, or not.


37 posted on 05/16/2014 3:45:24 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12

The hard reality NO one can dispute is that POS BO has done so much to destroy gamily life our security and the economic health of our country PLUS advanced evil practices with obamacare
I do not know how you can ignore that reality that is destroying us

by not voting or voting for a candidate who had no chance you if you were one and others like you made it possible foe the horror going on now in all parts of our lives.


38 posted on 05/16/2014 4:06:28 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: RWGinger

I don’t know how you can ignore the reality of making the leader of the GOP, a man who’s lifelong political goal was to make it pro-abortion and anti-conservative, and who would have attained that goal as the president, and leader of the party.


39 posted on 05/16/2014 4:22:28 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12

Well Gee if YOU can ignore the destruction reelecting that POS is doing to our country- How can you ignore what is going on now??
but if you can ignore what not voting did it is not surprising you can ask such a meaningless question within the reality of what is going on NOW
You act like BO has done nothing harmful to every single aspect of our lives and our country


40 posted on 05/16/2014 4:27:29 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: RWGinger

If you can ignore the elimination of opposition to abortion, then you are clueless, or in support of it.

You seem determined to promote Mitt Romney on this Ted Cruz thread.


41 posted on 05/16/2014 4:41:25 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12

You are completely in error

Bur I have one question
Do you think Romney would have done so many disastrous things to our country as that POS?
and I know You can’t ignore the destruction in all areaas that Obama has wrought

for the record I started working on Senator Cruz’a campaign in Feb 2011
I am not the one who started blasting the GOP candidate. who while not perfect would have been better than what people who didn’t get out and vote( were you one?) or people who voted for a candidate they knew would lsoe ( or would you here)
These people who thought they were so high and mighty on 2 of their convictions( YES important but not the only ones as we see from what BO is doing ) are the reason our country is spiraling down noe


42 posted on 05/16/2014 4:53:54 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: RWGinger

I’m not in complete error.

Your devotion to Romney is obsessive, and the passion mysterious.

I can’t help but notice how you keep ignoring the facts and corrections that have been presented to you on this Ted Cruz thread, as you keep hammering for the pro-abortion Mitt Romney here in mid 2014, whose goal was to make the GOP a pro-abortion party.

Only Mitt Romney could change the GOP internally, and contrary to what you said, once he won the nomination he claimed that he had openly “campaigned” as opposing the pro-life platform, and being for the “health” of the mother.


43 posted on 05/16/2014 4:59:36 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12

Do you think our country is better off with BO being re elected?
Do you think our country would have slid so much further down if Romney had been elected?
can you answer those?


44 posted on 05/16/2014 5:04:16 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: RWGinger

I think you have already answered the question of where you are on abortion.

Indifferent, at best, so you are another one who supports the GOP moving left.


45 posted on 05/16/2014 5:11:56 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12

Why are you afraid to answer what happened after the 2012 elections
Do you think our country is better off with BO being re elected?
Do you think our country would have slid so much further down if Romney had been elected?
can you answer those?


46 posted on 05/16/2014 5:30:59 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: RWGinger; SoConPubbie

Interesting that you got on this thread to hijack it and go into a rabid defense of Mitt Romney, and in a round about way, abortion, since you won’t even acknowledge it as important.

I think that can be explained by you aggressive defense of Romney when you first signed up in 2009, and this revealing of your lack of interest in social conservatism, in 2011.

To: BarnacleCenturion
so what can he do as POTUS?
legalize abortion?

we hve really serious financial issues that have to be addressed NOW
Of course I would rather my POTUS be firmly prolife
but that won’t be a deal breaker compared to what 0dumbo is doing to our country.
if newt is the nominee i will work as hard as i can for him

11 posted on 11/18/2011 1:59:45 PM by RWGinger



47 posted on 05/16/2014 5:41:23 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12

Can YOU say our country is better off with Obama being re elected?


48 posted on 05/16/2014 5:55:30 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: RWGinger

LOL, you hijacked a Cruz thread for that?

Are you going to promote Mitt Romney and abortion, for 2016, on every Cruz thread?


49 posted on 05/16/2014 6:00:43 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: RWGinger; ansel12
Do you think our country would have slid so much further down if Romney had been elected?

Well, given that Romney didn't want a Free-Market approach to healthcare and vowed to implement his own socialistic healthcare in all 50 states, given that Romney is all in on the Gay Agenda, given that Romney supports most, if not all, Abortions, given that Romney has a track-record of whole-heartedly supporting the Climate Change scam, given that Romney has a record of taxing everything that moved and breathed in Massachusetts, given that Romney unconstitutionally implemented Gay Marriage in MA, I'd say we would not have been much better with Romney than with Obama.

Now Romney's Corporate Cronies would have been taken care of I'm sure.

We would have had any decrease in Abortions nor would Romney have fought to educate and lead on the issue, Same as Obama.

We would have Gay Marriage, just like he did in MA, he would have been probably worse than Obama on that issue.

The economy might have been slightly better.

With his famous history of flip-flops I'm sure he would have found a way to grant Amnesty already, because the GOP would have fallen in line with him on that and would not have fought him just like they didn't fight GWB when he chose to do bad things. This would be worse than Obama.

With his famous history of flip-flops and going with where ever the political pressue takes him I'm sure he would have caved on Global Warming by now and implemented some sort of Carbon Trading Scheme by now.

He would have done absolutely nothing to decrease the size of government.

And the worst thing that would have come out of a Romney Presidency, is that he, with his progressive policies, would have moved the GOP terminally to the left and hasten the destruction of our country much quicker than Obama has because the GOP would be destroyed by his left-wing politics.

Don't believe me?

Look what Romney did to the GOP in MA with his left-wing politics. He destroyed it.

So, all in all, a Romney Presidency would have been a strong 2nd place in terms of the immediate destruction of our Democratic Republic, but the long-term effects would have been much worse, sealing the destruction of our country.

And I am also sure that it would have been the last GOP President as a result.
50 posted on 05/17/2014 9:24:46 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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