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Scouts Train to Fight Terrorists, and More (Returning veterans!) [from 2009]
The New York Times ^ | May 13, 2009 | Jennifer Steinhauer

Posted on 05/17/2014 3:20:55 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

IMPERIAL, Calif. — Ten minutes into arrant mayhem in this town near the Mexican border, and the gunman, a disgruntled Iraq war veteran, has already taken out two people, one slumped in his desk, the other covered in blood on the floor.

The responding officers — eight teenage boys and girls, the youngest 14 — face tripwire, a thin cloud of poisonous gas and loud shots — BAM! BAM! — fired from behind a flimsy wall. They move quickly, pellet guns drawn and masks affixed.

“United States Border Patrol! Put your hands up!” screams one in a voice cracking with adolescent determination as the suspect is subdued.

It is all quite a step up from the square knot.

The Explorers program, a coeducational affiliate of the Boy Scouts of America that began 60 years ago, is training thousands of young people in skills used to confront terrorism, illegal immigration and escalating border violence — an intense ratcheting up of one of the group’s longtime missions to prepare youths for more traditional jobs as police officers and firefighters.

“This is about being a true-blooded American guy and girl,” said A. J. Lowenthal, a sheriff’s deputy here in Imperial County....

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: fascism; scouts; veteransobama
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To: R. Scott
I seriously doubt kids will ever be used but it does prepare them to enter federal LEO service when of age.

If they want to be LEO they've got to start out small; shooting dogs and tazing old women.

21 posted on 05/17/2014 4:45:48 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: MSF BU

“I wish more of them would consider the military when of age. The number of young GOP members who have served in any capacity in my area is atrocious.”

If it bore some semblance to a meritocracy more might consider it; when it became makework for minorities and women it became pointless. Obama wasn’t kidding when he said the troops were fighting for him; they serve under the president, even if he is a foreign Muslim. I can understand people joining the military only as an employer of last resort (and they should know the risks when they do so).


22 posted on 05/17/2014 5:02:34 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"...Mexican border, and the gunman, a disgruntled Iraq war veteran Democrat, has already taken out two..."

There...fixed it.

23 posted on 05/17/2014 5:03:09 AM PDT by moovova
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To: ronnie raygun

“Militarize the boy scouts, nice.”

Scouts might not have the membership woes they have in my area if they did that. Parents lost interest in scouting when they did less and less outdoors (and more and more fundraising). Sixty years ago the scouts were practically feeders for the military, not a bad idea considering there was a draft and many people would serve in the armed forces at some point in there lives. Of course, back then there was a country worth serving; you didn’t have our president apologizing for our leadership.


24 posted on 05/17/2014 5:08:56 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“They try that in the real world, though, under cover of the law, and they’ll find out the difference between a soldier and a policeman, like those deputies in that Rambo movie. Many of the Iraq and Afghanistan veterans had four or more tours under their belts. And that’s not even talking about special operators, intelligence, airborne, etc. I know guys that could eat 20 or 30 of those kids for breakfast.”
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Roger That!


25 posted on 05/17/2014 6:23:05 AM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Boy Scouts were never intended as a pre-cursor to a law enforcement or military career. This is just another attempt by a facist govt to mold the minds of the young to the power of the state. It needs to be stopped like many other things that are going on in this country.

Sadly I never hear any of our GOP legislators talking about it.


26 posted on 05/17/2014 7:40:06 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: MSF BU

Serve under a Communist CiC. Never!


27 posted on 05/17/2014 11:12:48 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hopefully not here.


28 posted on 05/17/2014 2:09:06 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: kearnyirish2

Then go into elite units or be good at what you do. The navy nuclear program doesn’t pass duds of any color. Airborne training remains challenging, though less so; Ranger training is tough as is USMC officer training. This business about “Obama is a POS therefore I am not going to serve” is baloney, IMO. Young patriotic men should go do something in uniform if they qualify. If for no other reason than they may need the training if we have a civil war.


29 posted on 05/17/2014 5:17:34 PM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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To: MSF BU

There are a lot more reasons to stay out of the military besides “Obama is a POS”; his predecessor sent Americans to kill (and be killed by) Muslims while calling Islam a “religion of peace” (as a Christian I know that is nonsense - non-Muslims have no peace anywhere Muslims make up even 1/3 of the population). This country wasn’t built with a large standing army in mind; if the Huron and French go on a tear again I’ll sign up with the Jersey Blues and defend our homes. People can prepare themselves better for a civil war by hunting/fishing/camping in nearby areas; that is where it will happen, and those will be the tools at their disposal.

A friend with two children who signed up (as the employer of last resort - no “patriotism” was involved) was concerned that her son might be injured/killed while he was in the Arabian peninsula. While I certainly understood that sentiment, she had no concern that her son might kill somebody he had no reason to kill (because the political mood of the day dictated so). Anyone who turns over their freedom to Caesar best be prepared to live with the consequences of doing that.


30 posted on 05/18/2014 4:09:18 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

It the concern is killing somebody, then go into the majority of occupational specialties that don’t involve that. Become a corpsman, medic, etc. As regards hunting & camping as a substitute for military training, that is absurd. The Croats who fought the Serbs had military training; the Finns who defended their freedom did so with military training. The BSA’s pioneering merit badge won’t cut it. Again, the bottom line is that the country needs young men to serve in uniform. If you take a pass, take a pass; don’t get sensitive when somebody points out you took a pass while the McCain and Hunter sons were on the front lines. Some families serve; others sit on their ass and watch.


31 posted on 05/18/2014 5:57:25 PM PDT by MSF BU (n)
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To: MSF BU

“If you take a pass, take a pass; don’t get sensitive when somebody points out you took a pass while the McCain and Hunter sons were on the front lines. Some families serve; others sit on their ass and watch.”

I’ll go a step further; I’m feeding, clothing, housing, and schooling the McCain and Hunter’s sons. I’m paying their fathers’ salaries as well. The money is gone; workfare is finished. Nobody in uniform today has done anything to protect me; they are serving others’ interests. If the military was securing our country instead of empire-building overseas, I might consider your points valid; as long as the Tsarnev brothers (despite warnings from Russia) can kill people here then don’t pretend those in Afghanistan are “fighting terrorism”.

The enemies that defeated us in Lebanon, Somalia and Iraq(and are defeating us in Afghanistan now) are doing it without formal military training.


32 posted on 05/19/2014 3:07:00 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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