Posted on 05/18/2014 5:34:41 AM PDT by Kaslin
26:22 I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children, and destroy your cattle, and make you few in number; and your high ways shall be desolate.
There you go. G_d held some beasts as evil and to be controlled. Hunting them put natural fear of humans into those animals.
I only eat unkilled meat -
Or lamb. If I don't want to eat meat I eat lamb instead.
Amazing that someone does not know where their meat comes from...lol
As deer hunting declines, deer become incredible pests, and breeding grounds for massive tic populations.
“3. Was Jesus really a vegetarian hippie?”
That is precisely what the modern church pushes. Even alleged conservatives will twist themselves into knots to try to prove that “sell your cloak and buy a sword” doesn’t mean “sell your cloak and buy a sword”. Hippie Jesus is a tiresome construct of our times.
Isn't it "Thou shall not murder"?
And from the New testament (Acts 10:13): “Then a voice told him, Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.”
#7: The Hebrew translation is “Do not murder.” Quite a difference.
Certainly God’s word is heavily, very heavily, more slanted toward the slaughter of domesticated animals.
But you are correct that hunting in general is no sin.
Of course, I assume that if you are basing your justification for hunting on His word, then you also don’t hunt/eat pigs or other forbidden critters including coons, bears, catfish, lobster, etc. The health laws are not arbitrary, basically you are instructed not to eat the garbage and meat eating critters. Bambi is clean to eat. You are not commanded to be vegetarian. But you are told to eat vegetarian creatures. And, no, that itself does not make Pamela Anderson clean to eat.
And no, those rules did not change post-Jesus. Things God said were bad before Jesus did not magically become good after Jesus. What changed is how we pay for sin. No longer via animal killing, but by faith brought about by understanding who Jesus is and why He came.
Regarding your questions:
It is not stated specifically who killed the first animal. But clearly God liked Abel’s dead animal-based offering - though it was not hunted meat.
Hunting is nowhere declared sin.
Jesus is hip, but not a vegetarian hippie.
God had Noah help the critters because He likes them for all the reasons He created them. And while they were not the target of His wrath, they were otherwise susceptible to His forewarned method of cleansing. Extra copies of the clean animals were taken along specifically to be killed/sacrificed.
Absolutely NO to the David question. Yes he killed predators as a shepherd. Yes, he killed thousands of Democrats (Philistines) with the jawbone of a Democrat. Yes, later he even was guilty of putting a hit (murder) on a man because he has the hots for the guys wife. But, no, no, no a thousand times no - it was NOT confidence in his own killing skills that put him before Goliath. It was faith in God.
Hunting is great and all (I hunt bow and gun), but there is no need to confuse people with speculation. And it would be the grave sin of false doctrine to contend that it was not purely faith that won that battle. Just read what David said about it to Goliath’s face. That should clear it up for you. Please consider carefully what it means to muddle God’s word for your own desires. Also, it has nothing specific to do with hunting, but it might help to read and consider the reason God gave David the plans for the temple but would not let him build it.
The mentioned commandment is specifically against murder, not killing in general - which I’m sure you already know. Even for those who don’t research the meaning of the words vs the English translation, it is not possible to read the bible as a whole and come to the conclusion that all killing is bad. God demanded killing many times.
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“And from the New testament (Acts 10:13): “
Hunting is no sin.
But Acts 10 has absolutely nothing to do with hunting.
Nor does it justify eating pigs and such. As Peter himself explains about 15 verses later.
Out of context pull quotes are sometimes deceiving. This one in particular has led millions of Christians astray because they don’t read whole chapters/books anymore.
I’m not saying you do that, but it is something to be alert for in general.
“Where in the hell has my country gone?”
I’m afraid is it now only available in book form, check the History section.
I have a cousin in the state of New York that lives in a community with a lot of open land. She is a tree hugger who gives money to the anti-hunting groups and to the no-kill shelters.
When Bambi comes and eats her petunias, it is like throwing a switch; suddenly the deer are not so cute.
If you read the ten commandments, you will see that god is clearly creating boundries for
human/human and human/god relations. There is nothing related to animals in any of those 10 phrases.
Even if you jumped ahead to the time of Jesus, his sermon on the mount messsage (which some may interpet as new amendments to the old bible law) there is still nothing related to animals. Case closed!
That depends on which God you are talking about.
The God(s) that the hunters and gatherers worshiped were very different from the monotheistic God that farmers/herdsmen worshiped.
Jews have always taught the Seven Laws of the Children of Noah, among which is a command to avoid causing unnecessary suffering to any creature, as attested to by several Old Testament laws.
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1313/jewish/Discovery-of-Planet-Earth.htm
...At the outset of his creation, Man was the gardener in the Garden of Eden to “take care of it and protect it.” At first, Man was forbidden to take the life of any animal. After the Great Flood, he was permitted to consume meat—but with a warning: Do not cause unnecessary suffering to any creature...
Also there is a huge difference between killing the enemy in a war or just murdering somewone
Mans dominion over the animals of the earth was one of the things deemed ‘very good’ at the end of the sixth day.
Happening before the original sin, this is not one of the things changed by the new covenant.
God killed the first animals for clothing FOR US.
Gen 1:26 - 30 pretty much covers it.
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