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Local Police Departments 'Armed for War' on Domestic Terror
NewsMax ^ | 18 May 2014 | Greg Richter

Posted on 05/19/2014 7:18:59 AM PDT by shove_it

Local police departments are beginning to look more like branches of the military as surplus equipment such as Mine Resistant Vehicles are seen on the streets of small towns across the country.

A report on Infowars.com ties the purchases to what police see as a growing domestic terror threat, specifically war veterans with the knowledge of how to make improvised explosive devices.

"When I first started we really didn’t have the violence that we see today," Sgt. Dan Downing of the Morgan County Sheriff’s Department told Fox 59 in Indianapolis for a story titled "Armed for War."

Story continues below video.

"To come and take away their firearms … that absolutely is not the reason why we got this vehicle. We got this vehicle because of the need and because of increased violence that we have been facing over the last few years … I'll be the last person to come and take anybody’s guns."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: domesticterror; domesticterrorists; donutwatch; militarizedpolice; powergrab; tyranny

1 posted on 05/19/2014 7:18:59 AM PDT by shove_it
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To: shove_it

more skipping over probable cause and false arrests ahead.


2 posted on 05/19/2014 7:21:46 AM PDT by magna carta
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To: shove_it
Well, they did such a great join withe Boston bombers - they ignored the Russians screaming at us to look at those guys.

Instead Obama’s reaction when he heard about it was “Must be a tax protest”. Forget Muslim extremism - the problem is those terrible tea-partiers! Old people sitting in lawn chairs protesting higher taxes is our number one national security issue!

Of course we should give these clowns more money and equipment.

3 posted on 05/19/2014 7:28:58 AM PDT by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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To: shove_it

I think Downing’s thought processes are skewed by the liberal BS that is spouted out of Washington DC. Veterans are not the issue. In fact, I would be willing to bet that veterans have a lower crime rate than other segments of the community.

The threat is not most of the citizens. The threat comes from allowing illegal immigration and having an open border. We have documented proof of Saudis and Pakistanis and other radical islamists living in Mexico and learning to talk and act like Mexicans. They then cross our border.

They are not coming here to better their way of life. They are coming here to destroy ours.


4 posted on 05/19/2014 7:29:24 AM PDT by Glennb51
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To: magna carta

DRIP DRIP DRIP ...


5 posted on 05/19/2014 7:31:44 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of Obama's America)
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To: shove_it

And IEDs have caused how many police cruisers to be destroyed in the last few years?


6 posted on 05/19/2014 7:47:39 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: shove_it
This is a story of the Montgomery co. Texas sheriffs office crashing it's DHS granted surveillance drone into Lake Conroe.

But...take a look at the pic. The paramilitary officers, the military grade equipment/weapons, the armored vehicle in the background.

Protect and serve? Or Control and oppress?

Local law enforcement does not need Federal grants for military equipment to patrol civilians.

http://montgomerycountypolicereporter.com/mcso-drone-crashes-into-lake-conroe/

7 posted on 05/19/2014 8:00:19 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: shove_it

Conservatives need to make a big push at the state level to pass “Police de-Paramilitarization” laws.

1) States create lists of what weapons and equipment local police forces are legally allowed to have. Any weapons or equipment not on the list will be turned over to their county Sheriff or the State Police, and they will store it in their facilities.

2) Local police departments must go through the state police to have any interface with federal authorities, especially including equipment, funding, intelligence information and communications equipment. Likewise, all *efforts* at interface from either the federals or the local police must be immediately reported to the state police.

3) State police academies will have their curricula reviewed to insure that police are not being trained in paramilitary functions.


8 posted on 05/19/2014 8:05:25 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

>>>And IEDs have caused how many police cruisers to be destroyed in the last few years?<<<

Good question. I Googled it and got nada ...

https://www.google.com/search?q=ied+blow+up+domestic+police+car&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS495US496&oq=ied+blow+up+domestic+police+car&aqs=chrome..69i57.44208j0j8&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8


9 posted on 05/19/2014 8:09:32 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of Obama's America)
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To: shove_it

>> growing domestic terror threat

Really? The only thing growing is militarization of PDs. It’s more than just equipment, it’s a mindset. Just look at those morons in Albuquerque, who should be charged with murder.


10 posted on 05/19/2014 8:14:00 AM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party)
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To: shove_it

We aren’t going to be able to stop the proliferation of the military weapons to local police forces.

It’s important, however, to change those things we can, and in this case one thing to change is our perception of those weapons.

We need to begin thinking of them as resources for our side, resources being maintained and fueled for us to use when they are needed.


11 posted on 05/19/2014 8:15:13 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: shove_it

However, there is another possibility - bomb dogs. In 1941, the Soviets trained dogs to run under tanks by only feeding them under running tanks. They then let packs of dogs loose around the German armored units. Strapped to the back of each dog was an antitank mine with a trip bar. When the dog ran under a German tank looking for food the mine would detonate killing the dog and presumably the tank. The Gremans had to start killing all dogs that came near their vehicles.

Maybe the police are simply taking a page from history.
1) Have extremely tough vehicles.
2) Kill all dogs in area.


12 posted on 05/19/2014 8:24:02 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: shove_it

And exactly how many cases of veterans committing “domestic terror” have there been since 9/11/2001? Waiting.


13 posted on 05/19/2014 8:41:41 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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. . . police see as a growing domestic terror threat, specifically war veterans with the knowledge of how to make improvised explosive devices.

Another lame-ass excuse to justify their militarization. This unit was bought for $2,000 - cost the taxpayers $700,000 - a nice way to launder money to militarize the police. Since the passage of the 1997 National Defense Authorization Act, $4.2 billion in military property has been transferred to police departments in every state, according to the Defense Logistics Agency website.

Sleep well - "If it saves just one life" (cough)

14 posted on 05/19/2014 8:52:34 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Ray76

It’s happening all over now. Been so for over a decade plus.

Cops are nothing more than modern day Roman Legionaries who can assault, imprison, batter, and kill with impunity if Joe Smith so much as looks at them the wrong way.

How about the case in Miami where two dozen badge thugs opened fire and unleashed over 300 rounds into a car of suspects? The idiots even hit two of their own in the crossfire.


15 posted on 05/19/2014 8:59:55 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: shove_it

Liberal elites are lying to police departments about vets, conservatives and traditional Americans.

Liberal elites want to kill traditional Americans... and they want to use the police to do it.


16 posted on 05/19/2014 9:01:07 AM PDT by GOPJ (If dems will "death panel" our vets they'll damn sure death panel the rest of us...)
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To: shove_it

Unfortunately, We the People are the “Domestic Terrorists” they are arming up to kill.


17 posted on 05/19/2014 9:09:14 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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“Liberal elites are lying to police departments about vets, conservatives and traditional Americans.”

Except they are recruiting veterans to do the dirty work and there is no limit to that supply. Vets are signing up in droves to join these “police” forces with military training, gear, and tactics.


18 posted on 05/19/2014 9:10:23 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: GOPJ

I think it’s due to the Satanic origins of religion/worldview of “liberalism”, but...

it is the deepest desire of every liberal, from the elite down to the sheeperal,

to see those who oppose them punished and killed by the State.


19 posted on 05/19/2014 9:12:20 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: GOPJ

I sincerely hope you aren’t just figuring this out. You may want to think about making some plans/preparations that the Democrats would view as treasonous ie how to be more self sufficient as opposed to being a subject on “govt. assistance “.


20 posted on 05/19/2014 10:03:49 AM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: Nebr FAL owner

What we need to do is expose the stories and lies that are being told. The American people aren’t fools...


21 posted on 05/19/2014 10:17:04 AM PDT by GOPJ (If dems will "death panel" our vets they'll damn sure death panel the rest of us...)
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To: CodeToad

That’s good news... the more traditional Americans in police departments the better...


22 posted on 05/19/2014 10:46:51 AM PDT by GOPJ (If dems will "death panel" our vets they'll damn sure death panel the rest of us...)
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To: Ray76
“It’s more than just equipment, it’s a mindset. ”

Exactly right! Go to police one.com and read various articles and ESPECIALLY, the comment section below articles. Police officers often talk about having the “warrior mindset”. They often refer to themselves as “warriors”.

Unleashing Your Inner Warrior with Nancy Fatura

23 posted on 05/19/2014 11:27:58 AM PDT by FBD
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To: shove_it

Oh the names I was called ten years ago when I warned them that this war on terror bullshit was going to be bastardized and morphed to where j-walking was going to be considered terrorism. The flack I caught when I told those morons that these police departments were just sharpening their claws on the potheads and the target in short order was going to be MUCH closer to home. Any of those assclowns want to tell me where I’m wrong now?!


24 posted on 05/19/2014 11:36:16 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: GOPJ

Don’t assume all veterans are “traditional”. Most are, but there are plenty that are not. Many just like the physical aspects of kicking in doors and the constitution be damned. Just look at all the crap they do, such as what happened in Boston.


25 posted on 05/19/2014 1:34:52 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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