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Ex-NATO commander: West needs to provide military aid to Ukraine
the-japan-news.com ^ | May 20, 2014 | Keiko Iizuka

Posted on 05/19/2014 7:40:54 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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To: Tailgunner Joe

I’m against Obama.

I’m also against the US meddling in Ukraine for ANY reason.
There is NOTHING that could happen in Ukraine that would cause me to change my mind on this...we must stay out of it.

It’s a European problem, if they want to meddle then let them. And if they meddle and get their ass kicked by Russia we should do nothing to save them...let them sleep in any bed they make. Europe needs to pull on their big-girl-panties and stand on their own...we can’t afford to borrow any more money to fight for them.

The fact that Obama want’s to and has meddled in Ukraine merely strengthens my decision.


21 posted on 05/19/2014 8:44:59 PM PDT by Bobalu (What cannot be programmed cannot be physics)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

’ No troops, but military aid. No aircraft but intelligence. No ...”

A job not worth doing is worth doing half-azZ$$ed.


22 posted on 05/19/2014 8:46:15 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: tcrlaf; Hugin

Actually if you listen to the Russians, they will tell you that Obama, Soros and the CIA are behind the uprising in Venezuela just like in Ukraine. After all Communist Venezuela is KGB Putin’s ally. Putin supports and arms every single communist regime in the world.


23 posted on 05/19/2014 8:49:20 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: tcrlaf

The flame is already lit, you just don’t know it yet.


24 posted on 05/19/2014 8:51:42 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Hugin; tcrlaf
Nicolas Maduro: Ukrainian crisis is response to US and EU anti-Russian policy - March 19, 2014 - Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro has accused both the US and the EU of “double standards” over Crimea and recalled the Kosovo and Falkland Islands referendums as evidence. Maduro says the West is seeking to “eventually destroy” Russia.“

There is a certain transnational elite that has been cherishing this dream for 300 years,” Nicolas Maduro said.

The Venezuelan leader criticized “the anti-Russian policy of the US and some European countries,”saying the crisis in Ukraine comes as a response to that.

“What has happened in Crimea is a response to the format that made Ukrainian democracy collapse. And there is only one reason for this: the anti-Russian policy of the US and some European countries. They seek to encircle Russia in order to weaken and eventually destroy it,” he said.


25 posted on 05/19/2014 9:04:36 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

As sad as the Ukraine situation is...we don’t need to be there. We have enough problems here.


26 posted on 05/19/2014 9:24:48 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("Remember me as you pass by, As you are now, so once was I, As I am now, so you will be")
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He's right about the transnational elites and Kosovo. Wrong about the Falklands. A pox on both their houses.

Putin is no Hitler. He's not even a Brezhnev. We didn't go to war with the communist USSR, and we don't need to with Putin's nationalist Russia over the Ukraine. We should pick our fights.

27 posted on 05/19/2014 10:11:24 PM PDT by Hugin
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We lost thousands of patriots fighting proxy wars against Russia in Korea and Viet Nam. We helped defeat them in Afghanistan. Putin loyally served that EVIL EMPIRE and he does not apologize nor repent for that. Now he wants to rebuild that EVIL EMPIRE and pit it against the USA. I don't care whether Putin is a communist or a nationalist. I don't care what religion he is. I don't care whether he has gay friends or loves Elton John. He is our enemy and we must fight him and defeat him. Period.

Kosovo proves one thing. Putin is afraid of NATO peacekeepers. Yeltsin sent Russian troops to Kosovo, but Putin pulled them out. He knows he doesn't want to fight NATO because it's a fight he can't win. Cowardly bullies like Putin never want to fight anybody their own size or bigger.

28 posted on 05/19/2014 10:29:01 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: ClearCase_guy

Many Ukrainians think we are behind all of this. My friends there tell me that America is being accused of disruption there


29 posted on 05/20/2014 3:40:25 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Bammy wants World War III to distract us?

That's merely the by product of what he's going for. He's channeling his inner FDR now. The ghost of Lincoln is moving on. What better way to complete fundamental transformation than by nationalizing and centralizing every aspect of private industry and enterprise via a global conflict? What better way to deal with those bitter clingers than suspending rights guaranteed under the Constitution and instituting marshall law in the name of national security?

Never let a good crisis go to waste.

30 posted on 05/20/2014 3:53:46 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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