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Bill for Jewish Prayer on Temple Mount Sets up War of Allah vs. God
The Jewish Independent ^ | May 20, 2014 | Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu

Posted on 05/19/2014 7:58:02 PM PDT by Tzvi INN.com

Instead of bowing down to Allah, the Muslims invoke other spiritual measures, such as throwing rocks at the Jews and cursing them.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: allah; god; israel; jerusalem; jews

1 posted on 05/19/2014 7:58:02 PM PDT by Tzvi INN.com
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To: Tzvi INN.com

I see you praying there!

2 posted on 05/19/2014 8:06:23 PM PDT by equalator
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To: Tzvi INN.com

Look forward to seeing the death worshipers getting evicted soon!


3 posted on 05/19/2014 8:09:59 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Tzvi INN.com

Koran tells them that land belongs to the Jews. And that the Jews will return to their land . And if my reading is correct, that the Moslems are supposed to help them return, it being allah’s will. So who’s throwing all those rocks at the praying Jews on the Jewish Temple mound? Quite a mystery, that......


4 posted on 05/19/2014 8:24:34 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: Tzvi INN.com

Baal, Allah ....no contest

Where is my rod?


5 posted on 05/19/2014 9:25:40 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: faithhopecharity
So who’s throwing all those rocks at the praying Jews on the Jewish Temple mound?


6 posted on 05/19/2014 9:34:32 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Oh yeah. Them. Satan’s scourge for Rock Three.


7 posted on 05/19/2014 10:03:24 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: Tzvi INN.com

This headline makes no sense. Allah is the Arabic word for “God”, so the article would read battle of “God vs. God”. And if they’re referring to the Arab word for God vs. the Jewish word for God, then it would read “Battle of Allah vs. Yahweh”


8 posted on 05/20/2014 1:53:24 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: BillyBoy

The Muslims don’t believe it is the same god, that is why they use the terms Jewish God and Christian God. In actuality, most don’t realize it, but the Muslims are actually worshiping the devil.


9 posted on 05/20/2014 2:21:38 AM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: Revolutionary

Exactly. The war between “Allah” and God is inevitable. It’s the central feature of the Book of Revelation.


10 posted on 05/20/2014 3:20:12 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: BillyBoy

If you believe that “Allah” is Yahweh, that Mohammed is the seal of the prophets, the first born, the most perfect man, the glorious, the praised one, the seal of perfection.

And if you believe that Jesus was not crucified and shed his blood as the perfect lamb of God, and was resurrected and sits at the right hand of His Father, if you believe this is all untrue, you are a muslim!

Or not. I really do not know you.


11 posted on 05/20/2014 4:38:16 AM PDT by the anti-mahdi
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To: the anti-mahdi
>> And if you believe that Jesus was not crucified and shed his blood as the perfect lamb of God, and was resurrected and sits at the right hand of His Father, <<

Jews don't believe Jesus was the "perfect lamb of God, and was resurrected and sits at the right hand of His Father". They might believe he was crucified, but they think he was an ordinary man, and they deny his divinity and the resurrection.

So would say that Jews worship a "different God", since they clearly reject Jesus as God?

12 posted on 05/20/2014 10:28:14 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: BillyBoy

You posit an interesting argument. One that has circulated for two millenia.

Jews (all of Israel) are still the apple of God’s eye.

The Messiah is amply predicted throughout the Old Testament.

He came and was rejected (but not by all Jews).

I would never claim the Jews to be anything other than God’s chosen people. They are. Live with it. They are the fount of most of science, culture, technology, music and they wrote the Bible under direct inspiration by God.

Therefor if the Jews never again wrote a simple phrase of poetry or verse, they have already excelled all of human history.

So, what was your question again?

I celebrate in my heart that the Jews were again placed in their land. I also know without any doubt they will recognize whom they pierced and they will weep in remorse.

This will happen. I might not be alive to see it. Maybe you will. I hope that you will rejoice when every knee bows and every mouth proclaims that Jesus is Lord.

You can look it up. Or not.


13 posted on 05/20/2014 11:12:07 AM PDT by the anti-mahdi
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To: the anti-mahdi
>> You posit an interesting argument. One that has circulated for two millenia. <<

The argument "Muslims worship a DIFFERENT God than us because the reject Jesus as the Messiah and the second person of the trinity, but when Jews do the same thing, they're worshiping the SAME God as us and its fine and dandy" makes no sense to me, sorry. Either people need to accept Jesus or not. There's no section of the Bible that says "Nobody is allowed to reject Jesus, EXCEPT Jews"

>> Jews (all of Israel) are still the apple of God’s eye. I would never claim the Jews to be anything other than God’s chosen people. They are. Live with it. <<

They are God's chosen people in the Old Testament. The New Testament makes it clear that the curtain in the temple was torn in two and that CHRISTIANS inherited the true faith because the Jewish people had rejected the messiah, declaring "Let his blood be upon us and our children" Again, there's NO section of the New Testament where God says its fine to reject his Son or an angel announces "It's OK to reject Jesus if you're Jewish, you're STILL the chosen ones anyway, NOT the Christians!"

>> The Messiah is amply predicted throughout the Old Testament. <<

Yes, but modern days Jews (other than Messianic Jews with are less than the 1% of Jews) explicitly reject and denounce the idea that Jesus is the one that was foretold in the Old Testament. They will tell you he was an ordinary man.

>> He came and was rejected (but not by all Jews). <<

The Jews that accepted Jesus at the time became the first Christians. Furthermore, many gentiles who were NOT of Jewish origin became Christians as well. This is also explicitly mentioned in the Bible, especially with St. Paul and the argument over circumcision. There's NO rule you HAVE to be Jewish and from "God's chosen people" to be saved. You simply don't have to be Jewish to be "chosen" by God. Plenty of non-Jews who had never observed the Jewish faith or customs became the first Christians.

>> They are the fount of most of science, culture, technology, music and they wrote the Bible under direct inspiration by God. Therefor if the Jews never again wrote a simple phrase of poetry or verse, they have already excelled all of human history. <<

I disagree. We owe Jewish culture a lot more contributions to mankind, but they are certainly not superior to other cultures that became Christian, like Greeks or Romans, and they certainly aren't the font of all knowledge and wisdom in western civilization. Furthermore, if I agreed with your beliefs about Jewish supremacy, I'd probably just leave Christianity and convert to Judaism since they're so "superior" to the rest of us and God prefers them to other faiths. I'd want to be a member of the faith that God "chooses" over everybody else.

>> I celebrate in my heart that the Jews were again placed in their land. <<

I agree with that, but again I don't elevate them over other people. I weep for the fact that Christians have been purged from our lands, like the ancient Christian city of Constantinople now being 99% Muslim. Certainly that city belongs to Christians as much as Jerusalem belongs to Jews.

>> So, what was your question again? <<

Why it is Muslims have a "different God" when they reject that Jesus is divine, but Jews have the "same God" when they also reject Jesus? Different rules for different religions, I guess. (again, not in the New Testament, it says to bring EVERYONE to Jesus).

14 posted on 05/20/2014 1:06:39 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: Tzvi INN.com

See tagline...


15 posted on 05/20/2014 3:52:25 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: BillyBoy

Except that the ‘god’ that is Allah, is NOT the God that is Yahweh. They are not comparable, nor are they compatible.


16 posted on 05/21/2014 4:57:42 AM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: BillyBoy

No, God is God, the same for Christian and Jew.


17 posted on 05/21/2014 4:59:09 AM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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