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The McConnell challenge that wasn’t
Politico/Playbook ^ | 5/20/14 | JAMES HOHMANN

Posted on 05/20/2014 12:16:53 PM PDT by Baynative

Matt Bevin seemed like the ideal candidate to challenge Mitch McConnell. The handsome and personable businessman, a father of nine, impressed national conservative groups looking for a chance to knock off the Senate Republican leader.

These groups, from the Senate Conservatives Fund to FreedomWorks, the Tea Party Patriots and the Madison Project, invested more than $1 million in the Kentucky GOP primary. Bevin himself spent more than $3 million, including $1 million of his own fortune.

And, yet, polls indicate he’s going to get creamed Tuesday.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: bevin; bevinnotideal; bevinnottp; braking; kentucky; lundergangrimes; mattbevin; mcconnell; mitchmcconnell; primary; stupidchallenge; stupidchallenger
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A lot of lessons to be learned here. Power of incumbency and vulnerability of novice campaign assembly and media influence; to name just two.
1 posted on 05/20/2014 12:16:53 PM PDT by Baynative
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To: Baynative

If only McConnell was half as nasty going after Reid as he was to the Tea Party.


2 posted on 05/20/2014 12:19:45 PM PDT by AU72
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To: Baynative

While it’s an uphill fight for Bevin, what gives with posting a leftwing article about how all is lost when the election isn’t over?


3 posted on 05/20/2014 12:21:54 PM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: Baynative

It’s truly amazing to see so much effort being put out to discourage the average Kentucky voter.

So although I support and voted for Bevin, I do expect that McConnell will win the primary. The best I can see out of this is that McConnell and their campaign will see how much of the ‘Base’ truly wants him gone and that might, just might, make him campaign harder against Grimes in the General election.


4 posted on 05/20/2014 12:23:10 PM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Baynative

Wasn’t Cruz down big just before the election?


5 posted on 05/20/2014 12:24:07 PM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: Baynative

Well crap..... I donated to his campaign twice... I was really hoping that McConnell would go down in flames. Maybe we will get a big surprise tonight.


6 posted on 05/20/2014 12:24:23 PM PDT by southernindymom
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To: Baynative

The article should be “The article that wasn’t” because no results are in yet.

Just say’n.


7 posted on 05/20/2014 12:24:48 PM PDT by the_boy_who_got_lost (Real men scare liberals)
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To: The Working Man

Perfect result in November?

GOP wins Senate, but McConnell loses to Dem. Now THAT would be one helluva message.


8 posted on 05/20/2014 12:25:00 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Do NOT suffer fools gladlyÂ…and message boards are full contact arenas)
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To: Baynative

McConnell is worse than a garden variety wimpy RINO. He actually declared war on the Tea Party, and not just in his state, but nationwide.

He has forfeited support in the general election.


9 posted on 05/20/2014 12:25:02 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I'm a Contra" -- President Ronald Reagan)
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To: Baynative
He may beat Bevin, but can he beat the Democrat? I'm not sure McConnell is electable in this race.

Romney and the GOPs dirty tricks got Romney the nomination, but in the end, Romney was unelectable.

/johnny

10 posted on 05/20/2014 12:25:13 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Baynative

Did Bevin really come out in support of dog and cock fighting? Fox reported that last night.


11 posted on 05/20/2014 12:25:26 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: Baynative

Is this an open or closed primary? It makes a difference if Democrats are allowed to vote for their favorite Republicans.


12 posted on 05/20/2014 12:26:58 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: JRandomFreeper

I don’t believe Romney was unelectable. A bit moderate, maybe, but he is a good man with a good heart who was painted as callous by the media in order to fool people into electing a man who, along with his wife, has no feelings or compassion for anyone but himself.


13 posted on 05/20/2014 12:27:26 PM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: Baynative
Romney didn't get elected, ergo, he was unelectable.

/johnny

14 posted on 05/20/2014 12:28:02 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Baynative

Oy. Way to push the narrative for a fait accompli, Politico...! “So, as we all will know in a few hours, Mark Bevin lost in an embarrassing landslide...”

Shame is definitely a rare commodity among media types, these days...


15 posted on 05/20/2014 12:28:14 PM PDT by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: Baynative

Saw McConnell on Megyn Kelly’s show last night.

What a nothingburger he is.

No wonder Reid walks all over him.

To have Trent Lott, Bill Frist and Mitch McConnell as GOP Senate leaders is the best thing that ever happened to the Democrats.


16 posted on 05/20/2014 12:29:07 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

And the same thing happens to Boehner.. giving us Sen Maj. Leader Cruz and Speaker of House Gowdy.


17 posted on 05/20/2014 12:29:16 PM PDT by txhurl (Trump/Cruz '16, and everybody else for Cabinet members.)
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To: AU72
If only McConnell was half as nasty going after Reid as he was to the Tea Party.

Amen.

18 posted on 05/20/2014 12:32:47 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Baynative

Every state elects the government it deserves.


19 posted on 05/20/2014 12:34:55 PM PDT by Theophilus (Be as prolific as you are pro-life.)
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To: txhurl

Well yes, that would be awesome…but no way Boehner loses…McConnell is in some trouble in the general from what I’ve been told. I’m no expert on Kentucky however - but I think this could actually happen.


20 posted on 05/20/2014 12:35:29 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Do NOT suffer fools gladlyÂ…and message boards are full contact arenas)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The thing is, whether Reid wins or not, Mitch still gets paid. If Bevin wins, Mitch loses money.

The guy fights for his own self interest. He’d be a Democrat if it got him elected.


21 posted on 05/20/2014 12:35:45 PM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: Baynative

Don’t discount lazy voters in mid-terms. Bevin just has to beat the McConnell machine of paid supporters.


22 posted on 05/20/2014 12:35:49 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conservatives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: Baynative

Romney was the only candidate who could not counter Obamacare. This is among the main reasons he was a terrible candidate.


23 posted on 05/20/2014 12:36:35 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Baynative

Romney lost a winnable election, and he lost by quite a bit...including FL which Bush won in 2004 by half a million.

Romney was a terrible candidate. I was hopeful, but knew in my heart during the primaries he could not win. Despite doing better than I expected in debates and on the stump, he simply drew no one in that could be won by a more articulate, principled conservative that knows how to win people over.


24 posted on 05/20/2014 12:37:50 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Baynative

Sorry, I don’t believe he is a good man. He’s a fool at best. A “good man” doesn’t want open borders and amnesty and then at the same time say we should raise the minimum wage when the two are at odds as ideas. This guy is a supposed businessman?


25 posted on 05/20/2014 12:38:16 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conservatives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: edpc

No, Dewhurst was below 50% before the first primary, with Cruz in a solid second place, so we all knew that there was an excellent chance that Cruz would make the run-off; and Cruz was about even with Dewhurst in the polls just before the run-off, so right before the vote we knew that Cruz probably would win.

Bevin is not going to win today’s primary, and KY does not have a run-off, so Bevin won’t get a second chance even if McConnell gets below 50% (which he won’t). A good candidate with a conservative record on which to run (such as Ted Cruz in Texas, Mike Lee in UT, Richard Mourdock in IN before he self-imploded, etc.) perhaps would have beaten McConnell in the primary, and then gone on to trounce Grimey (as she prefers to be called) in the general, but Bevin does not share such characteristics. Bevin should have run for a lower office instead before maybe running for the Senate in a few years.


26 posted on 05/20/2014 12:38:45 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

If the 21% who voted against Boehner helps GOTV for Grimes, Boehner’s a goner.


27 posted on 05/20/2014 12:39:30 PM PDT by txhurl (Trump/Cruz '16, and everybody else for Cabinet members.)
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To: Baynative

Taking on a very powerful guy is tough, especially when the crony wing of the party has lined up in lockstep with the failed leadership. This was always an uphill battle, and things just didn’t break for Bevin. This rally he spoke at was small potatoes, but when millions are poured into it, a small misstep becomes more important than a disastrous leadership record.

While voter intensity has equaled the playing field in many elections the past 4 years, money still means a lot.


28 posted on 05/20/2014 12:41:06 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: FR_addict

I don’t think he has a position on dogs.


29 posted on 05/20/2014 12:42:56 PM PDT by Lisbon1940
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To: Baynative

His campaign failed to drive Maobama’s negatives up. His advisers were overpaid, even if they were receiving minimum wage. ANY wage is too much to pay an idiot. Bob


31 posted on 05/20/2014 12:44:50 PM PDT by alstewartfan (She wanders down the hallway in her long black dress Lingers by the fireplace like a faint caress Al)
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To: Baynative
And, yet, polls indicate he’s going to get creamed Tuesday.

It's hard to run against a ONE PARTY SYSTEM!!!

FMCDH(BITS)

32 posted on 05/20/2014 12:47:43 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Baynative

He wasn’t the worst candidate, but the power of incumbency, especially from a leader who has been bringing home the pork and building his network for years, is hard to beat.

Ref: Harry Reid re-election 2012.


33 posted on 05/20/2014 12:56:22 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Best message ever. And the way McConnell has trashed the same folks
who he needs to beat Grimes, I would not be surprised or disappointed
if Kentucky Conservatives send a message to McConnell, instead of
sending him back to the Senate.


34 posted on 05/20/2014 1:05:08 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: tennmountainman

A win-win would be the Republicans taking the Senate and McConnell losing.


35 posted on 05/20/2014 1:06:32 PM PDT by AU72
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To: AU72

Amen.


36 posted on 05/20/2014 1:07:20 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
GOP wins Senate, but McConnell loses to Dem. Now THAT would be one helluva message.

THAT is exactly what will happen.

I certainly will not vote for McConnell in November if he wins today.

I will write in a Conservative.

Better the enemy we know than the one that works so hard to stab Conservatives in the back and help Obama and the Democrats establish an oligarchy over us with themselves as absolute rulers.

37 posted on 05/20/2014 1:07:32 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: AU72

McConnell has to work with Reid, he can ignore the Tea Party. /disgust


38 posted on 05/20/2014 1:07:37 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: FR_addict

“Did Bevin really come out in support of dog and cock fighting?”

No, not at all. He attended a fundraiser and another attender of that fundraiser was supportive of legislation to re-instate cock fighting.

“Fox reported that last night.”

Dump Rove network and got with The Blaze. You will be much better informed and much better entertained. The fact that they reported a story that was already debunked WEEKS ago, is proof enough that they are pro-establishment and anti-individual liberty.

Pox on Fox.


39 posted on 05/20/2014 1:07:47 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Baynative

I won't believe it until the results are in. But if McConnell does win the primary, I hope the conservative voters in the state hold back their votes for him in the general. Better to let the seat go and have a known enemy on the field to the fore, than a backstabbing double agent wearing our uniform to snipe at us from the rear. We still have a good shot at taking the Senate without him -- and what a message that would send.


40 posted on 05/20/2014 1:09:46 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: ilgipper
Romney was a terrible candidate

When the MSM picks the GOP nominee, it's not going to be the person who can beat the DEM. Ever.

41 posted on 05/20/2014 1:17:15 PM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: ilgipper

This system we’re in needs to go away. We need to get rid of it. We know it’s corrupt. We know McConnell is never going to be unseated. Why do we keep pouring money and time into it?


42 posted on 05/20/2014 1:18:13 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Baynative
Senator "Whimpy Turtle" Senate Majority Leader.
I think I'm going to be sick.
43 posted on 05/20/2014 1:22:36 PM PDT by Falcon4.0
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To: txhurl

I thought Grimes was Ky, not Ohio.


44 posted on 05/20/2014 1:22:44 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Do NOT suffer fools gladlyÂ…and message boards are full contact arenas)
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To: Baynative
A lot of lessons to be learned here. Power of incumbency and vulnerability of novice campaign assembly and media influence; to name just two.

And others would be...

A good man stood in the breach with courage and took on the establishment power structure when they thought they were sacrosanct. And that IMHO is a big deal. Not to mention others that did ( the guy who ran against Cantor ) and even Cantor didn't rack up huge numbers. We are the barbarians at the gate, and IMHO they are scared....

45 posted on 05/20/2014 1:24:05 PM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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To: Baynative

McConnell was using his weight within the Republican Party to threaten organizations and candidates who teamed up with the TEA Party.


46 posted on 05/20/2014 1:25:29 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: edpc

[ Wasn’t Cruz down big just before the election? ]

Cruz was but Cruz wasn’t runnign against an incumbent that the bingo playing AARP crowd had burned intheir minds because they have been pulling the same lever for the last 30 years...


47 posted on 05/20/2014 1:25:33 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: JRandomFreeper

If Bevin goes down the conservatives should find someone to run as an independent/third party


48 posted on 05/20/2014 1:26:43 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: CSM

No thanks, Can’t stand Glenn Beck.

Speaking at a fundraiser to support cock fighting was a big mistake. I doubt many conservatives support legalizing cockfighting. It gave ammunition for McConnell. It makes me wonder if Bevin was chosen by the establishment with the express purpose of exploding at the end.

McConnell should have been beatable by a real conservative.


49 posted on 05/20/2014 1:26:58 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: taildragger

One more thing... The down ticket wins will be huge IMHO and the E-GOP will have to deal with those new turks with our mindset coming up through the ranks. One way or another they are going to have to deal with us...


50 posted on 05/20/2014 1:27:28 PM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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