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Monterey Shale: Fracking’s Great Moment Of Derp
CLEANTECHNICA ^ | 5/22/2014 | Tina Casey

Posted on 05/23/2014 5:56:46 AM PDT by thackney

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I think that last paragraph was thrown in just to imbed several links to other stories at the web site.
1 posted on 05/23/2014 5:56:47 AM PDT by thackney
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To: thackney

The vast bulk of production problems in California is political, not technical. With “Moonbeam” Brown running the state, and “Bat$#!t” Obama running the country, the best estimate of oil production California is ZERO.


2 posted on 05/23/2014 6:05:49 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age didnÂ’t end because we ran out of stones)
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To: thackney

I am certain the earlier number is the more accurate one.

In any event, we need to develop it and see.


3 posted on 05/23/2014 6:06:31 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: thackney

With the government we have today, any report must be suspect of being corrupted for political purposes.


4 posted on 05/23/2014 6:06:53 AM PDT by The Free Engineer
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My guess is that technologies will continue to improve, that 600 million barrel number will go up over time, and should prices rise, more effort will be brought to bear on the problem of recovering this oil.


5 posted on 05/23/2014 6:10:18 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: TBP

The government hates hydrocarbons. I think this is PsyOps to discourage and perhaps codify anti-fracking data. Of course there are challenges; of course the bright minds in industry will figure out solutions. And of course O and the Thug will get their pants in a bunch.

Governor Moonbeam - however hard this is to believe - supports fracking and has shot down a number of anti- bills in Sacto. He knows it will bring money to the state. My husband’s a geologist and is up-to-date on the politics in this, and has been pleasantly surprised. The anti-frackers will not go down without a fight.


6 posted on 05/23/2014 6:16:31 AM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: TBP
I am certain the earlier number is the more accurate one.

I am certain it is not. My opinion is based upon the relatively poor production rates from the private companies drilling the holes for the last few years.

Is your certain based on any data? Or just wishful thinking and distrust?

7 posted on 05/23/2014 6:18:17 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: The Free Engineer

The same group has been raising the producible reserves in the Bakken and the Eagle Ford.

The first report was junk and they included language in it that said it was based upon production from other fields.

It was a guess, and it wasn’t a good guess.


8 posted on 05/23/2014 6:22:24 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

I’m guessing the recoverables are still there, it is just that the industry will make prognosticated adjustments according to regulatory environment.

Example: Formation A, when frac’d, has 5 MMM BBL recoverable reserves. But, state and local regulation will “stay” any frac activity and those hydrocarbons can no longer be considered ^recoverable^.
Industry says, “We must downgrade our estimates.”


9 posted on 05/23/2014 6:22:35 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The Acronym explains the science.)
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To: thackney

I presume government numbers to be wrong.


10 posted on 05/23/2014 6:26:48 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: thackney

Is it just me or is the tone here “this one instance of fracking estimates is bad, therefore fracking is bad”?


11 posted on 05/23/2014 6:28:22 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: sitetest
My guess is that technologies will continue to improve, that 600 million barrel number will go up over time, and should prices rise, more effort will be brought to bear on the problem of recovering this oil.

Very true. The same will effect places like the Bakken, Permian, Eagle Ford, etc. Rising proved reserves often does not requiring finding anything new.

12 posted on 05/23/2014 6:30:06 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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The first government numbers certainly were.

I cannot help but wonder if they were pushed to get something out so the pump&dump stock guys could rake in the money before it was looked at too closely.

Many good companies in the industry criticized that first publication as not realistic. Many bad companies grabbed a lease and used that report to raise money before the bottom fell.


13 posted on 05/23/2014 6:32:43 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: SoothingDave

I don’t see that.


14 posted on 05/23/2014 6:34:28 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: norwaypinesavage

What the author is implying and it is a fair assertion is that “estimates” are exactly that.

Now, my problem with the author is he seems almost celebratory that the Monterrey formation isn’t as big as it was estimated to be...but anyone with a brain puts an over/under on an estimate. And in another few years that formation could be found to be larger than they ever dreamed.

As the empirical data grows so does the certainty.


15 posted on 05/23/2014 6:45:25 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: The Free Engineer

BUMP!

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BTW, will the Chinese, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, AG Holder, POS Obama and Jerry Brown be forbidden to bid on the soon to be decreased mineral rights value of the Monterrey Shale downgraded acreage?


16 posted on 05/23/2014 7:00:21 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Ouderkirk

I agree that US gov and the greenies want to downplay potential and kill fracking. That said, we should leave open the possibility that fracking in flat-lying sedimentary geological formations in the center of the continent may be hugely more productive than the same technology applied to the melange of rocks scraped from the ocean floor and volcanic island arcs pushed onto the continental margin. And the reports refers to the possibility that oil within this formation may have already migrated—meaning we may have sucked some of it up already drilling in the lower Cental Valley.


17 posted on 05/23/2014 7:04:42 AM PDT by Sicvee (Sicvee)
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To: thackney

Coming from an administration known for cooking numbers . . .


18 posted on 05/23/2014 7:16:53 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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It really works out to be fairly simple. Either the oil is there or it isn't. If it is, where is it? (geologically and geographically speaking). Once that is tied down, how do you go about getting it out?

Apparently, many are convinced it is there, but sorting out the rest will take some doing.

Even the Bakken has its hotspots where production is better and other areas where is is less, before it peters out completely near the edges of the formation (it does not outcrop anywhere and is only in the subsurface). I have only worked two out of roughly 200 wells in the Bakken and Three Forks which were non-productive, and they were where we were looking for the limits. We found them.

Among the other wells, though, IPs ranged from 3000 BOPE to 250 BOPE, depending on where in the basin we drilled.

19 posted on 05/23/2014 7:18:26 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: fella

And you should apply that thought process to the original report they put out.


20 posted on 05/23/2014 7:21:09 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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