Posted on 05/23/2014 7:59:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
The costs have quadrupled under the 0bamacare, so what in hell makes you think that the morons in DC can come up with anything that will make it REALLY affordable for more people?
The real fact is that the majority of those in congress don't really care one way or the other. They only care about how it affects them economically or politically - who will give them kickbacks and what unions can corral votes to keep them on the gravy train.
Meanwhile they have their separate system than ensure that they have no death panels in THEIR future.
The free market, for starters. Vouchers for veterans too.
No. The only solution is to repeal completely, including the damned Clinton and Bush elements leading up to it.
Agreed.
RE: The costs have quadrupled under the 0bamacare, so what in hell makes you think that the morons in DC can come up with anything that will make it REALLY affordable for more people?
Here’s my take on it — if you want to convince the majority of Americans, simply saying you are going to repeal Obamacare and go back to the status quo WILL NOT WORK.
The fact is, most Americans DO WANT healthcare reform ( and by reform, they mean a change in what what used to be the status quo ).
Therefore, you have to REPEAL Obamacare, but you can’t simply stop at that.
So, REPEAL and REPLACE is the right way to go, not simply REPEAL.
RE: No. The only solution is to repeal completely,
Disagree. REPEAL *AND* REPLACE is the better solution.
RE: you have to do away with MEDICAID
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Well, that is REPEAL *AND* REPLACE right there.
I’m not worried about the Dems .... I’m worried about Republicans not having the courage to REPEAL. I’m very worried about what the ‘replacement’ will be for Obamadeathcare .... if it’s anything politicians have cooked up, it may not be much of an improvement.
NOBODY should get medical treatment for free. The exception would be if charitable groups wanted to step in.
Medicare part A for Seniors who are already eligible is a different situation. It's the insurance we were forced to pay for...hospital coverage over the age of 65. FWIW, I'm not being a hypocrite; I didn't sign up for part B or the pharmaceutical program.
Well, I would argue it is REPEAL *AND* RETURN...but, okay.
RE: I’d much rather see a situation where the norm for those who don’t have doctors or insurance is private clinics. It would lead to better health care and inexpensive and natural treatments for everyone.
Well, if your preference were to be the norm, that in and of itself is not only a REPEAL of Obamacare, it is a REPLACEMENT of the healthcare system even PRIOR to Obamacare.
RE: Well, I would argue it is REPEAL *AND* RETURN...but, okay.
A RETURN to Medicaid the way it was on its way to bankruptcy?
Sorry, no dice.
RE: . if its anything politicians have cooked up, it may not be much of an improvement.
I think the Coburn, Burr, Hatch plan would be a good proposal to consider.
And now it is even less affordable unless you are sucking the government teat.
"You can't kill the beast while sucking at its teat"
-- Claire Wolfe
In any form it takes (either now or in the future) it will always BE a fraud on the public!
So if people don’t buy insurance, and then get sick, what happens? Under a free market system, they spend what money they have on their coverage and then when that’s gone, they die. That’s a coherent and rational plan, but not one that will win a lot of votes in a democratic republic.
Have it your way.
So exactly what does RETURN mean to you?
To me, It meant simply returning to the way it was WITHOUT any change.
If this is not what you meant, what is it then?
I think the Coburn, Burr, Hatch plan would be a good proposal to consider.
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Ok .... I was being a little too general in my condemnation :-) I’ve heard of their proposal, just haven’t paid enough attention to it so I need to do some homework.
I don’t recall many if any reports of anyone dying under the system preceding obamacare. Not to say it was perfect, but it was a hell of a lot better than this.
Just wait until the current VA becomes the mainstream.
I’d rather have a foundation to build upon than have to come from the ground up, which this islamocommunist concoction will have us wishing we’d avoided it.
There may well be no coming back
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