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Coalition Of Black Pastors Speaks Out Against Gay Marriage
Huffington Post ^ | May 15, 2014 | Kate Abbey-Lambertz, Huffington Post

Posted on 05/23/2014 4:17:59 PM PDT by NYer

Edited on 05/23/2014 6:29:33 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

At a recent rally, a large group of black pastors voiced their strong opposition to gay marriage.

The rally was held against the backdrop of the current battle being fought in Michigan, where a state ban on gay marriage was overturned by Federal District Judge Bernard Friedman in March.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: glbt; marriage

1 posted on 05/23/2014 4:17:59 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...

FYI ping!


2 posted on 05/23/2014 4:18:20 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: NYer

This from a White Man?


3 posted on 05/23/2014 4:19:02 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: NYer

We conservatives have a remarkable opportunity here to forge an alliance with the black community....at least a good chunk of it.

Let’s embrace their love of this truth: God’s design for marriage are what we ought to follow as a nation.


4 posted on 05/23/2014 4:22:52 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Pandering to Blacks is a waste of time.


5 posted on 05/23/2014 4:27:48 PM PDT by EEGator
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6 posted on 05/23/2014 4:31:54 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Unfortunately, all they have to do is see the vicious hatred of blacks — displayed right here on FR — and conclude that conservatives are not anyone they want to be associated with.


7 posted on 05/23/2014 4:32:14 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

>> We conservatives have a remarkable opportunity here to forge an alliance with the black community....

We always have opportunities... but yes, here especially.


8 posted on 05/23/2014 4:34:24 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Yup. The motives and long term goals of our allies don’t need to be the same for us to work together on a short term goal we do agree with.


9 posted on 05/23/2014 4:34:36 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: NYer

Martin Luther’s legacy is about black rights. It has nothing to do with gay special rights.


10 posted on 05/23/2014 4:35:50 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Gene Eric

Two black members of the Ypsilanti MI city council shut down a resolution to join a lawsuit in favor of gay marriage about a week ago.


11 posted on 05/23/2014 4:36:52 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: NYer

The media won’t touch this and 95% of the population will never hear about it.


12 posted on 05/23/2014 4:37:53 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: BenLurkin

‘vicious hatred of blacks here on FR ‘ - in a pig’s eye. You are so wrong.


13 posted on 05/23/2014 4:38:38 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: NYer

“You been played.”


14 posted on 05/23/2014 4:40:27 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: BenLurkin

Obama tries to inspire racial hatred both ways.

He only succeeds with the weak.


15 posted on 05/23/2014 4:41:01 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: BenLurkin

>> the vicious hatred of blacks — displayed right here on FR

Gratuitous generalizations and relevant criticism, but not necessarily hatred.


16 posted on 05/23/2014 4:41:05 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: NYer

Bump


17 posted on 05/23/2014 4:41:31 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: BenLurkin

Name names BL. I don’t know anyone here who hates blacks. I hate black violence the same as I hate white/Asian/Martian violence. I call BS on that one.


18 posted on 05/23/2014 4:43:41 PM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: NYer

Looks like M.L. King already died in vain. He said ‘a person should be judged by his character, not the color of his skin’. Nobody pays any attention to him now, certainly not O’bummer.


19 posted on 05/23/2014 4:44:30 PM PDT by Vinylly (?%)
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To: Gene Eric; BenLurkin

Yeah, what Gene said.


20 posted on 05/23/2014 4:44:44 PM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: BenLurkin

“....the vicious hatred of blacks — displayed right here on FR...”

Specifics, please. No characterizing, no blanket accusations, just the facts, please.


21 posted on 05/23/2014 4:52:00 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: BenLurkin

So true.


22 posted on 05/23/2014 4:53:34 PM PDT by Marie (When are they going to take back Obama's peace prize?)
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To: SoFloFreeper
An alliance? King was an adulterer; no better than a Kennedy.

Wasted time trying to forge anything with activist blacks; they are on the consummate victim hood bus line, front row to boot. The good Americans who just happen to have dark pigment are doing just fine on their own without alliances and white guilt. Those folks are who the "black community" should be listening to; they could learn A LOT.

23 posted on 05/23/2014 4:54:55 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: NYer

These pastors are absolutely right. If I’ve said it once, I’ve said it a thousand times. Black Americans should be more closely aligned with the tea party than with Democrats. It’s the tea party that wants to stop importation of workers that take jobs from blacks. It’s the tea party that wants less taxes on everyone, black, white, or whatever. It’s the tea party that opposes government imposed immorality.


24 posted on 05/23/2014 4:59:55 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (America for Americans first!)
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To: CitizenUSA

Most blacks seem to be more interested in free stuff than jobs, at least that is the way it seems.


25 posted on 05/23/2014 5:00:43 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: BenLurkin

“the vicious hatred of blacks”

Oh really..... You have been here for 12 years, you ought to know better.

The “the vicious hatred of blacks” is the 3 or 4% of blacks that keep committing all the crimes.

Get a grip Rev. Al and/or Jesse.


26 posted on 05/23/2014 5:02:43 PM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: NYer
The deliberate and systematic misuse of THIS killed Martin Luther King's dream:


27 posted on 05/23/2014 5:04:27 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: NYer

They can scream at Zero all they want - he’s not facing another election.


28 posted on 05/23/2014 5:16:00 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: NYer

There is a parade and statute unveiling celebration going on tomorrow in Houston. Not only do we have to put up with endless trash political commercials from Dewhurst but Sheila Jackson Lee has appeared four times in the last hour asking everyone to join her in the celebration.

Would be nice to see Sheila ask Apostle Claver to give the dedication speech, even though Raging Elephants put up a banner stating that MLK was a Republican. Maybe if someone tells Sheila that it’s called reaching out across the aisle she’ll do it.


29 posted on 05/23/2014 5:18:01 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: NYer

He’s raci— I mean, homophobic! — No, wait ... which is it?


30 posted on 05/23/2014 5:27:24 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: NYer
If President Obama was expecting full support from the black community for his relentless push for gay marriage, he just got a loud and clear response: No way.

I am calling B.S. Every single one of them knew last election that he supported this and they all fell in line and brought their congregations with them. Over 95% of the African American population voted for this turd and they will follow him into hell.

31 posted on 05/23/2014 5:34:58 PM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertatrian)
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To: DannyTN
Martin Luther’s legacy is about black rights.

Do you mean Martin King?

32 posted on 05/23/2014 5:39:04 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: BipolarBob

I’ve seen some posts that I was shocked that the mods didn’t pull over the last few years.

We had Log Cabin Republicans who were more than happy to talk about how they were molested, twisted, and hurt by child molestation and wanted to stand and fight against the gay agenda, but FReepers ran them off. We had blacks, who identified as such, who were turned off by the racism.

I’m a Jew who loves FR, but any attempt to make people behave in a civil manner on this board is no longer accepted.

I miss my gay FRiends who wanted to stop child exploitation by sharing how it harmed their psyche and damaged them for life. (I was pro-gay marriage until one of my gay FRiends beat me over the head with the fact that the the gay lifestyle was about promiscuity and that I was so very wrong) I miss my black FRiends who were excited to join the conservative cause and help their communities.

I once saw a thread pulled because a man who loved a transsexual was defending the person he loved. He was trying to talk about how his/her past child abuse harmed him/her and broke their identity. He was trying to explain why *THEY* wanted to join the conservative movement. But his sin was that he still saw this person as a woman and loved this person. They were part of the damage and THAT was why they wanted to fight it. Nobody had greater reason to be here than they did.

He was banned within minutes.

What makes me sick is that he was agreeing with basic conservatism. He was agreeing that this caused damage and asking this community to accept those who wanted to join us to fight back against child abuse because they had actually suffered through it.

When I joined FR I was a liberal WICCAN for the love of G-d. I came in, looking for a fight and found reasonable, good people who were willing to talk to me.

FR welcomed my questions with honest answers. FReepers became my teachers. Since then, I’ve converted to Judaism and home schooled both of my children into functioning conservative adults.

Had I joined FR now, I’d never have made it past my first comment. Instead of intelligent conservatives teaching me the errors of my thought processes with patience, I would’ve been banned or ripped apart and it would’ve validated every horrible misconception that I was ever taught about conservatism... (and G-d and religion, for that matter. I wouldn’t be a devout Jew if it weren’t for FR.)

We are the face of conservatism and we’ve gotten meaner and lost our teachers’ soul. We alienate those who are moved to stand with us if they don’t present themselves in exactly the right way.

I am not asking for PR/BS. I want my sage teachers back. Sage teachers guided me and led me to a good life. I hate that FR has lost this and it saddens me that so many lost souls are booted out now before anyone gets the opportunity to direct them.

It’s like pastors beating people out of a church who want to confess and learn how to be godly. It’s a crime.


33 posted on 05/23/2014 5:41:26 PM PDT by Marie (When are they going to take back Obama's peace prize?)
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To: ansel12

Yes


34 posted on 05/23/2014 5:41:52 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: NYer

BTTT!


35 posted on 05/23/2014 5:45:56 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

Everyone of them will continue to vote for democrats.


36 posted on 05/23/2014 5:53:07 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: BenLurkin

FR doesn’t hold with wrongdoing.....black or white. I don’t see that as hatred for any one group.


37 posted on 05/23/2014 5:57:45 PM PDT by jch10 (The Democrat mascot shouldnÂ’t be the donkey; it should be the tick.)
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To: NYer

Not a peep out of these “pastors” as 57 million babies, disproportionately black, have been murdered.

Similar to the gun rights people who are talking about nullification—when there’s never been a peep about nullification while 57 million babies have been murdered.


38 posted on 05/23/2014 5:58:56 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: EEGator

The Democrats do it only until they have their votes.


39 posted on 05/23/2014 6:14:01 PM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: Marie

* * * crickets * * *


40 posted on 05/23/2014 6:16:19 PM PDT by Misterioso
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To: Marie

Thank you for your reasoned response. The urban black culture (gangsta and rap) is destroying the black community. One of the smartest and most respected person I know is Dr. Thomas Sowell. He is black. I would vote for him for president in a heartbeat. I don’t have the answer because we are limited to words on a computer. We’re not talking face to face and therefore it is hard to get the feel of each others facial and body expressions. I don’t hate gays but I hate some of their actions. Do I support their right to their lifestyle in the privacy of their home? Yes. But the aggressive gay agenda being pushed goes against all reason. It’s not equal rights, it’s special rights. That I’m against.


41 posted on 05/23/2014 6:22:40 PM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: Misterioso

Every time I post something like this, I cringe, waiting for the blow-back. But every time, this is the response that I’ve gotten. Silence.

We are blowing opportunities every time we shut out dissenting opinions. Every time someone asks a question that doesn’t conform. Every time a young, brain-washed person (as I was) steps into the FR arena and they’re trashed instead of educated. Every time a person says, “I agree with you and *I* was damaged beyond repair! Let me fight with you to stop other children from being hurt!” Every time a black person sees the scorn heaped on the intercity culture and wants to fight democratic oppression and they read the dehumanizing posts about intercity blacks, it confirms the belief that conservatives are racist and leaves them abandoned.

I want my teachers back.


42 posted on 05/23/2014 6:30:08 PM PDT by Marie (When are they going to take back Obama's peace prize?)
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To: BipolarBob

I agree with you! So when you see a new baby FReeper who doesn’t get it, take the time to educate them with compassion instead of banning them and hitting them with uneducated, snide remarks. (I’m not talking about what *you* do, but what I’ve been seeing on FR for the last few years.)

Approach these people with the heart of a teacher and we’ll gain more numbers. As it is, even those who want to learn are beaten off with a stick.


43 posted on 05/23/2014 6:34:38 PM PDT by Marie (When are they going to take back Obama's peace prize?)
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To: Marie

They left for the same reasons you will leave.


44 posted on 05/23/2014 8:29:42 PM PDT by Misterioso
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To: BenLurkin

I’ve noticed that some here would rather attack blacks than defend marriage. I just assumed they were scared of the gay mafia coming after them and would rather bend over than stand with other Christians.

But then, maybe some of them are really just DU dems pretending to be conservative, or GOPe wanna be gays.


45 posted on 05/23/2014 9:03:26 PM PDT by Waryone
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To: Marie

I’ve heard many Log Cabin republicans speak; all have supported so-called “gay marriage”. Don’t tell me they don’t support the gay agenda.


46 posted on 05/24/2014 12:07:18 PM PDT by TradicalRC (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus.)
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To: Marie

GREAT POSTS! I agree wholeheartedly! And I truly hope and pray you GET them back, soon!!!


47 posted on 05/24/2014 2:55:13 PM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE!!!)
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