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Obama blames Founding Fathers’ ‘structural’ design of Congress for gridlock
wash times ^ | 5/23/14 | d boyer

Posted on 05/24/2014 5:37:11 AM PDT by bestintxas

President Obama is taking a swipe at the Founding Fathers, blaming his inability to move his agenda on the “disadvantage” of having each state represented equally in the Senate.

At a Democratic fundraiser in Chicago Thursday night, Mr. Obama told a small group of wealthy supporters that there are several hurdles to keeping Democrats in control of the Senate and recapturing the House. One of those problems, he said, is the apportionment of two Senate seats to each state regardless of population.

“Obviously, the nature of the Senate means that California has the same number of Senate seats as Wyoming. That puts us at a disadvantage,” Mr. Obama said.

The Founding Fathers decided in the “Great Compromise” in 1787 to apportion House seats based on population and give each state two seats in the Senate regardless of population. The solution was a compromise between large states and small states in a dispute that nearly dissolved the Constitutional Convention.

The president also blamed “demographics” for the inability of the Democratic Party to gain more power in Congress, saying Democrats “tend to congregate a little more densely” in cities such as New York and Chicago. He said it gives Republicans disproportional clout in Congress.

“So there are some structural reasons why, despite the fact that Republican ideas are largely rejected by the public, it’s still hard for us to break through,” Mr. Obama said.

He also said Democrats suffer from the “congenital disease” of not voting in midterm elections.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antiamericanism; idiotinchief; obama; penandphonepotus; yearofaction
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To: Sacajaweau

“Only proves he believes in “Dictator”.”

I’m thinking His Highnesty would prefer the word “King”.


41 posted on 05/24/2014 6:45:30 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Rodamala

These are the words of a Tyrant seeking to overthrow the foundational principles of the republic.


42 posted on 05/24/2014 6:46:04 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: bestintxas

What our Founders did not think to put in the Original Constitution was TERM LIMITS on both president and Congress, and to make the Senate a 4 yr term, and set pay rates, no retirement, and how long a bill could be. Make USSC a ELECTED office where justices are accountable to the People. Some of the Secretarial post should be elected too.


43 posted on 05/24/2014 6:46:45 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: bestintxas
The Founding Fathers created the structure of Congress as more than just a "compromise". The House which was to be proportional to the population of each state was by design to be volatile with every seat up for election every two years. The House was to reflect the mood of the country. The Senate, whose members were initially elected by the state legislatures, were given longer 6 year terms with no more than one third of the membership up for election every election cycle. Each state was given two senators so that small population states would not be drowned out by the larger population states. The Senate was to counter balance the volatile House and give stability to Congress.

In Obama's view the flyover states, which tend to be more conservative, would have virtually no say in Congress and only a few large population and liberal states would control Congress. The same is true for doing away with the electoral college and going to solely a popular vote for POTUS. Again small population states would become irrelevant in presidential elections and a few large states would control who was elected POTUS.

Obama's Constitutional scholarship is farcical and his revisions to the Constitution would disenfranchise half the the country

44 posted on 05/24/2014 6:47:43 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: hal ogen

I agree, but it serves no purpose to go after anything that cannot be proven. We can prove that he is not a Natural Born Citizen and insomuch where the focus ought to be directed. Not all of these other unprovable nuances that just muddy the water from focus.

Once the determination has been made that he is not and therefore ineligible, he and the entire cabal needs to be prosecuted and incarcerated to the FULLEST extent the law allows, including treason and sedition.


45 posted on 05/24/2014 6:51:07 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"He's not incompetent."

He wrote the book on it. . . . . . .
What makes him even worse, is that NOBODY has told him he is. . . . .

46 posted on 05/24/2014 6:54:34 AM PDT by DeaconRed (We have just about used up the race card and the Politically Correct card too. Gay card next! !)
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" Each State, in ratifying the Constitution, is considered as a sovereign body,
independent of all others, and only to be bound by its own voluntary act.
In this relation, then, the new Constitution will, if established,
be a FEDERAL, and not a NATIONAL constitution.
" James Madison Federalist No. 39, January 1788

Click The Pic

47 posted on 05/24/2014 6:54:35 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Which leads us to the fact that the GOP is incapable of fighting back either out of incompetence or by choice. Reagan was the last person in my memory who was able to rise above the rabble and say what needed to be said without fear. We have a few conservatives who are doing the same, but they are labled as wackos, even by their own party.

Even here where we should all support one another in our cause, the tendency toward kneejerk reactions is our biggest undoing.


48 posted on 05/24/2014 7:02:38 AM PDT by CityCenter (Resist Obamacare!)
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To: DeaconRed

A few willful people, or an absolute oaf, can bring gridlock to any system of human commerce.

The US Constitution was written for men of a certain moral stance, and is applied through Christian principles. While you may or may not believe in Christ, the principles exist largely independent of that exercise of faith. There was a certain assumption about the basic level of reading and reasoning capability, as well, and the expectation that the electorate would be well-informed on the issues of the day.

Many of these pre-conditions either are greatly diminished or no longer exist in the psyche of many people, which may be approaching a majority.


49 posted on 05/24/2014 7:05:04 AM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: bestintxas

Obama would have nothing to say if he couldn’t blame someone for something... If only HE could have been Adam in the garden of Eden, we wouldn’t have the world of mess we have today...


50 posted on 05/24/2014 7:06:27 AM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: bestintxas

And yet the House which IS based on population is controlled by the Republicans. And the Senate which is based on the states is controlled by the rats.

But clearly this shows their thinking. They think if everything was population based, they would win. Hence the attempts to bypass the electoral college.


51 posted on 05/24/2014 7:13:58 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: bestintxas

Pretty sure that was the point.


52 posted on 05/24/2014 7:15:49 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: bestintxas
Oh, yes, there was a reason for the Founders' design and structuring of "the People's" constitutional control over their elected leaders! They wished to secure and expand individual liberty. Their desire was not to secure and expand coercive government power over citizens.

Perhaps the following essay might explain their carefully-conceived and implemented plan. The same web site contains other essays from "Our Ageless Constitution," easy-to-read writings which might serve to inform all who need further explanation of America's strict constitutional barriers protecting "the People's" liberty from would-be rulers.

Separation of Powers

- the genius of America's Constitution

America's Founders had just declared themselves free of a tyrannical government. They were determined that such tyranny would never be repeated in this land. Their new charter of government - the Constitution - carefully defined the powers delegated to government. The Founders were determined to bind down the administrators of the federal government with Constitutional chains so that abuse of power in any of its branches would be prevented. The revolutionary idea of separation of powers, although unpopular at first, became a means by which this was to be accomplished.

John Adams, in a letter to Dr. Benjamin Rush, stated: "I call you to witness that I was the first member of Congress who ventured to come out in public, as I did in January 1776, in my 'Thoughts on Government,' ...in favor of a government with three branches, and an independent judiciary..." By the time the Constitution was adopted, the idea was supported by all of the members of the Convention. James Madison, the father of the Constitution, devoted five Federalist Papers (47-51) to an explanation of how the Executive, Legislative, and judicial branches were to be wholly independent of each other, yet bound together through an intricate system of checks and balances. Madison believed that keeping the three branches separated was fundamental to the preservation of liberty. He wrote:

"The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many... may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny."

George Washington, in his Farewell Address, reminded Americans of the need to preserve the Founders' system. He spoke of the "love of power and proneness to abuse it which predominates in the human heart" and warned of the "necessity of reciprocal checks of political power, by dividing and distributing it into different depositories and constituting each the guardian ... against invasions by the others." Of such checks and balances through the separation of powers be concluded, "To preserve them must be as necessary as to institute them."


Footnote: Our Ageless Constitution, W. David Stedman & La Vaughn G. Lewis, Editors (Asheboro, NC, W. David Stedman Associates, 1987) Part III:  ISBN 0-937047-01-5

53 posted on 05/24/2014 7:19:42 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: smokingfrog
0bama is a compulsive liar

Pathological, for sure. But fortunately -- even with the MSM doing their best to cover for him in every instance -- he's not very good at it. You see, to be a good liar you need a certain level of intelligence that obama is obviously lacking.

54 posted on 05/24/2014 7:24:32 AM PDT by glennaro
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To: bestintxas
The founding founders were worried about dictators like you, Obama.That is why they did what they did.

You can't change the constitution, you dumb a$$. We know you and your Marxist friends want to.

55 posted on 05/24/2014 7:31:10 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: Paladin2

How did he manage to graduate and then teach in his field????

Seriously?


56 posted on 05/24/2014 7:45:04 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: bestintxas
"There he goes again ..." Ronald REAGan photo: Reagan Ronald-Reagan-1981.jpg
57 posted on 05/24/2014 7:45:36 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: bestintxas

Thus proving the wisdom of our founding fathers in creating a system that confounds a wannabe dictator more than 200 years after they’re gone.


59 posted on 05/24/2014 8:18:39 AM PDT by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: DeaconRed

What is the structure of the ruling group of Kenya?

Perhaps he is confused.


60 posted on 05/24/2014 8:51:17 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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