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The threat facing online comments
FinancialTimes ^ | 23 May 2014 | John Sunyer

Posted on 05/24/2014 6:54:45 AM PDT by shove_it

In the early days of the internet, there was much talk of how the web would connect us all, thereby furthering knowledge and fostering community. Yet for all its advocates’ and early adopters’ optimism about its potential to enable us to organise, think and influence one another, freed from institutional supervision or what the newcomers frequently described as “mainstream media bias”, one thing has remained consistently problematic: comments posted under articles or blogs (or “below the line” in internet-speak).

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One of the great questions for the future of the net is: to what extent this extraordinary freedom will be allowed to remain in the hands of the people, and to what extent will it be limited and regulated? If a recent ruling by the European Court of Human Rights is anything to go by, perhaps we should expect more of the latter...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: censorship; freerepublic; freespeech; internet; internetcomments; onlinecomments; powergrabcensorship; socialmedia
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To: WMarshal
Yes I get that, believe me. But why does no-one understand the huge difference between expression of opinion/beliefs and statements of facts?.

Again, what gives additional protection to a statement of fact published here, as opposed to, say, on a billboard, in a newspaper or book? Is there some law I have not seen that says you can say anything about anyone without recourse?

Regards your concern about social media, please get real: everything you publish or transmit should be considered public. Best not to say anything there you would not want published on the front page next day.

Oh, and by the way, I am free to deny anyone a job interview if they posted crap on DU or HuffPo. So are you

21 posted on 05/24/2014 11:02:39 AM PDT by Riflema
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To: shove_it

Our modern pols HATE the first amendment, and would happily do away with it at the slightest opportunity.

Now, it seems, they have that opportunity.


22 posted on 05/24/2014 11:50:43 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Terry L Smith

Perhaps I didn’t make clear that I was mocking the idea of needing certification to enjoy free speech. As far as the Constitution is concerned, while I honor your service, being human is qualification enough. Everything on top of that is what you did to ensure that being human is STILL enough.


23 posted on 05/24/2014 2:30:46 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Riflema

Oops, a bit flip, eh? Please think for a moment about the First Amendment right to anonymous speech. There’s a longstanding bright line of protection for it in the courts. Something about the government keeping databases on people - you know, irrational paranoid stuff like that.


24 posted on 05/24/2014 2:40:43 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

She goes by the name Ann Barnhardt.


25 posted on 05/24/2014 2:46:16 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: steve86

Quite so. Thank you for the correction.


26 posted on 05/25/2014 6:33:13 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Talisker
And, as I keep trying to drum into your head, not all speech, everywhere, is protected by said Amendment#1. You are absolutely able to say whatever you like, if someone is foolish enough to publish it, then people actually harmed by it are also free to go after the publisher. Now. Without any change to net neutrality, web censorship, or any of that stuff.

All I am saying, like the cat lady above, is keep some basic rules of civility and common sense online, as I expect you would in a coffee shop, by a water cooler or wherever. And remember, online is an enduring form of publication, like print, like TV, like radio, like books.

That's the point - a young medium needs to observe the same rules as its fading competitors.

27 posted on 05/25/2014 5:53:57 PM PDT by Riflema
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To: WMarshal
Regarding FR, I thought it was a place for mature adults who can behave as such, and would understand a little unsolicited advice, e.g., do not say foolish things to your mistress' tape recorder; do not publish pix of your privates on any electronic medium; do not libel people in any permanent form.

By all means, express all the opinions you like, but if they're half-@ssed or reflect badly on you, live with the consequences.

I guess, in short, take ink-stained wretch Howie Carr's well worn advice: "don't say anything you wouldn't want to see quoted on the front page next morning".

28 posted on 05/25/2014 6:03:02 PM PDT by Riflema
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To: Riflema
And, as I keep trying to drum into your head... All I am saying ....is keep some basic rules of civility and common sense online,

Shut up, hypocrite.

29 posted on 05/26/2014 2:25:16 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

Okay you lost me completely there.


30 posted on 05/26/2014 7:45:15 PM PDT by Riflema
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To: shove_it
A simple way around all of this is to file as a candidate for some upcoming election.

Campaign speech can contain pretty much anything, and be considered protected by the courts.

In the 1970s, I remember a candidate who swore in an ad just to get the ad talked about on national TV.

People like Alan Grayson say despicable things in their campaign ads.

Therefore, for a nominal fee in advance of some upcoming local election, file as a candidate and flame away on the internet.

-PJ

31 posted on 05/26/2014 7:51:22 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Riflema
Okay you lost me completely there.

Sure I did.

32 posted on 05/26/2014 8:05:09 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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