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British elections dismay establishment leftists: Voters turning conservative all over Europe
American Thinker ^
| 05/24/2014
| Thomas Lifson
Posted on 05/24/2014 11:01:56 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
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posted on
05/24/2014 11:03:53 AM PDT
by
Beowulf9
To: SeekAndFind
What passes for conservatives in Europe are usually not free-market individual freedom believers as is often the case in the US. They are usually ultra-nationalist, big government fascists.
To: SeekAndFind
feed the people Gruel 3 times a day and guess what
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posted on
05/24/2014 11:06:43 AM PDT
by
molson209
(Blank)
To: SeekAndFind
the establishment is beginning to crack in the EUSSR. good job UKIP.
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posted on
05/24/2014 11:12:20 AM PDT
by
dadfly
To: SeekAndFind
Unfortunately there is a rock-solid critical mass of government-tit-sucklers in Europe, the UK... and sadly here too.
This rock-solid critical mass of “recipients” puts severe limits on any possible reforms.
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posted on
05/24/2014 11:27:14 AM PDT
by
samtheman
To: SeekAndFind
I guess it depends on your definition of conservative. If you consider Christian nationalist, anti-EU, anti-Islam and anti-immigration (for third worlders) people conservative, then I guess they are conservative. These positions definitely appeal to many FReepers.
But on everything else they are as socialistic and big government as the pro-EU types.
To: SeekAndFind
If you think they’re dismayed now, wait till Farage gets his program going
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posted on
05/24/2014 11:59:05 AM PDT
by
Regulator
To: samtheman
Unfortunately there is a rock-solid critical mass of government-tit-sucklers in Europe, the UK... and sadly here too.
This rock-solid critical mass of recipients puts severe limits on any possible reforms.
Ex-actly. This is why the left seems to be so bold now. Even though many, many of them see the problem, they don't want to lose their tit. The unfortunate consequence of reform will be pain. It cannot be avoided and those that cause it will face another backlash because people are people.
The trick, was avoiding this situation in the first place. Moot, now.
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posted on
05/24/2014 12:05:15 PM PDT
by
98ZJ USMC
To: Corporate Democrat
“Christian nationalist, anti-EU, anti-Islam, anti-immigration”
It’s a start!
All the other stuff will fall in line with this
To: Regulator
Europe gives us Hope! Let us pray it will lead the europeans to a new glory—a new wave of freedom and not follow a fascist path.
To: SeekAndFind
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posted on
05/24/2014 12:47:02 PM PDT
by
SharpRightTurn
(White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
To: Daveinyork
UKIP don’t fit that profile.
To: 98ZJ USMC
The trick, was avoiding this situation in the first place.People spoke up in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s... but the vast majority were oblivious.
To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Thanks SeekAndFind.
Voters in Britain sent a forceful message of discontent to established political parties on Friday, as returns from local elections showed an even stronger following than expected for the anti-European Union, anti-immigration United Kingdom Independence Party. The results had an immediate impact across the political spectrum, hurting the Labour Party as well as the partners in the governing coalition, the Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats.
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posted on
05/24/2014 6:36:39 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
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To: moose07
Well, you made some news over here at least...
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posted on
05/24/2014 7:38:02 PM PDT
by
NoCmpromiz
(John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
To: NoCmpromiz
“...made news over here..”
Hee,Hee,Hee, Tea Party on.... Boston Part 2. :)
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posted on
05/25/2014 5:38:05 AM PDT
by
moose07
(the truth will out ,one day. UKiP or Tea Party on.)
To: Daveinyork
What passes for conservatives in Europe are usually not free-market individual freedom believers as is often the case in the US. They are usually ultra-nationalist, big government fascists. Whatever. As long as they expel the Muslims, Europe can survive.
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posted on
05/25/2014 6:11:47 AM PDT
by
PapaBear3625
(You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
To: SunkenCiv
The results had an immediate impact across the political spectrum, hurting the Labour Party as well as the partners in the governing coalition, the Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats. I'm really waiting to see the results of the EU elections tonight.
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posted on
05/25/2014 6:14:37 AM PDT
by
PapaBear3625
(You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
To: Daveinyork
Actually, there is a large spectrum on the right. On the national issue, there are : Liberals/Libertarians
Civic Nationalists/Liberal nationalists, who hold that anyone can be a loyal citizen if they are a loyal citizen.
Cultural Nationalists , who demand a common culture.
Ethno-nationalists, who look to a shared ethnic and cultural heritage.
Pan-nationalists who look beyond simply ethno-nationalism towards real or imagined shared histories. Two of the best known examples would be the Slavophiles in Russia and Nazis in Germany. I don't consider these to be nationalits at all, since they have no loyalty to the nation and don't consider it their patria.
On economics, there are free marketers, protectionists, paternalists, and even socialists.
The term "right" is therefor almost meaningless.
UKIP is a Civic Nationalist party, that is sometimes perceived as a cultural nationalist party. For a real cultural nationalist party in the UK, I would suggest you see Liberty GB. Both are free market. The British Nationalist Party is an ethno-nationalist party, which is protectionists and socialist.
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posted on
05/25/2014 9:37:28 AM PDT
by
rmlew
("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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