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1 posted on 05/24/2014 11:18:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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and the only way to do it was secret lists and death panels ,then hope it never leaked out ?


2 posted on 05/24/2014 11:20:18 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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The history to the VA is kinda interesting. After WW I...there was this rushed-up political game of giving a pension deal to all those who served in WW I. The average deal was $500 to $1000, depending on the number of months that you were in the war, and if you were overseas. The amazing part of the story is that it was all rigged to pay off....around 1944 (twenty years after it was passed). No one discussed how they’d pay the sum of money, and frankly, they didn’t care (it’d be a problem for later generations of Republicans and Democrats to pay).

So, when the crash of 1929 came....the vets wanted to get their money ahead of the schedule. What Congress basically came to offer early on, was this VA deal...free health care. They figured they could achieve happiness with these guys with free medical care. Naturally, when 1932 came around with the election...the pay-off stirred up vets and become another mess to deal with.

The VA of the 1930s? Mostly a failure because the clinics/hospitals were few in number and mostly around urban areas. Senators and Congressmen used it as a gimmick by promising to bring a new hospital to some rural area for the VA....like a gift situation and you needed to honor them by voting again for them. It was always (Republican and Democratic era)...a tool used to simply funnel money from one pocket to another.

We’d all be better off to just give a voucher to each qualified vet to buy GS-type health insurance, and let them buy it to fit their local situation. The eighty billion they currently spend? It’d easily pay for it, and we could downsize the VA to forty guys...all sitting out in Oklahoma (nice cheap area to base them, in my humble opinion).


3 posted on 05/24/2014 11:38:16 AM PDT by pepsionice
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Liberals Wanted to use the VA as a Model for National Health Care

It looks like that is exactly what they have done.

Complete with Stealth Death Panels, bogus paper work, made up statistics and corrupt government employees.


5 posted on 05/24/2014 11:50:14 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The “fourth estate”has morphed into a 5th column)
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I’m doing okay with Medicare. I’ve also got “Plan F” for a supplemental policy, and that results in nothing out of pocket for me ... no copays, no deductibles and no nothing ... :-) ...


6 posted on 05/24/2014 11:54:06 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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Liberals Wanted to use the VA as a Model for National Health Care


So they did


7 posted on 05/24/2014 11:54:52 AM PDT by rdcbn
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Liberals Wanted to use the VA as a Model for National Health Care

Clearly they have succeeded in that special way liberals have.

8 posted on 05/24/2014 12:11:11 PM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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they prolly used Auschwitz as a model for FEMA camps too...
12 posted on 05/24/2014 1:35:03 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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The Dems didn’t make 0bamaCare mandatory because they thought people would like it.


13 posted on 05/24/2014 2:01:49 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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Don’t forget the fine example provided by Indian Health Services.....


15 posted on 05/24/2014 2:56:05 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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I know some liberal vets who hate the VA. But everyone of them wants single payer. Crazy, huh.

I know a nurse who said “I would never work at the VA.” Yet she is all for single payer.

These people are lame brains. There’s no other explanation.


16 posted on 05/24/2014 4:35:19 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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This is a very late addition to the remarks. Maybe better late. “Paduda” sounds like a name a kid would give his “willie”? He is also a criminal to think the way he does.
VA and Obamacare are both disasters.


17 posted on 05/24/2014 8:10:47 PM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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Citizen’s Council for Health Freedom
http://www.cchfreedom.org/


18 posted on 05/24/2014 8:34:54 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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