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To: docbnj

“Based on exit polls. National Front is called far-right in the media, at the same time they note that it is essentially socialist in policy.”

Saw a great chart that compared ideology not to a straight, linear Left-to-Right line, but as a circle. If you go faaaaaarrrrr enough to the right then you wind up back into Socialism. Nazi style.

Same thing if you travel faaaar to the left.

Of course, this is France, so “Socialist” is kind of a given.


4 posted on 05/25/2014 11:46:54 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: Noamie

A circle is exactly what it is like.


5 posted on 05/25/2014 11:49:32 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Noamie

Its neither a line nor a circle.

The fact is, the Nazis were National Socialists (which is what their name means). There was nothing conservative about them. For example, their party anthem, “Die Fahne hoch!“ mentions martyrs killed by the Red front and the Reaction (conservatives). The most enthusiastic segment of the population supporting the Nazis were teachers, roughly those at the equivalent of our high-school level. Think of our own unionized teachers for comparison.

Hitler is dead, but I often think that national socialism is probably the commonest form of government in the world today. Naturally, its practitioners would rather not admit the connection.


6 posted on 05/25/2014 11:57:25 AM PDT by docbnj
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To: Noamie

Politicalcompass.org has a good paradigm.

Every couple years I take their questionnaire to see if I have drifted.


12 posted on 05/25/2014 12:26:28 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Noamie

NAZI is not on the right at all, they were competitors for the same supporters as the commies


14 posted on 05/25/2014 12:29:07 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Noamie
Saw a great chart that compared ideology not to a straight, linear Left-to-Right line, but as a circle. If you go faaaaaarrrrr enough to the right then you wind up back into Socialism. Nazi style.

This does not come from reason, but from the simple fact that the Communists labeled anybody who opposed them as "far right". Thus Nazis and Jeffersonians are both "far right".

A more rational spectrum would put those in favor of authoritarian state control on one end (putting Communists, Nazis, and fans of dictatorship in general on the same end), and those wanting minimal government on the other end.

20 posted on 05/25/2014 12:52:58 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Noamie

The Libertarian Party has the worlds smallest political quiz...which is a good way of knowing who you are voting for.


21 posted on 05/25/2014 1:03:22 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: Noamie
This is the true scale below. All totalitarian ideologies go to the left, where lack of government is on the far right.

At the same time, people often confuse socialist terrorism with anarchist activity, which is incorrect. Anarchy is the absence of government where most activity described as being anarchist is actually intent on bringing about a more severe form of totalitarianism.

It's taken the left decades to spread about the false premise of previous spectrums, but a simple chart shreads all their efforts. The simplest explanation of conservatism is a minimalist governing body, which falls on the center of the scale. The beliefs of libertarianism take us towards the far right. Not that I have a problem with that.


36 posted on 05/25/2014 3:33:51 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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National Front is not a neonazi poltical party but heres a list a few of the biggest ones

Neonazi parties in europe(have to be explicitly anti semitic and flirting with skinheads to qualify as such)

Jokkib in Hungary
Svoboda in Ukraine
Ataka in Bulgeria
npd in germany
Golden dawn in greence


57 posted on 05/26/2014 2:22:37 AM PDT by The Right wing Infidel
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