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Media Ridiculed for Hyping "Antarctic Collapse" Amid Record Ice
The New American ^ | 26 May 2014 | Alex Newman

Posted on 05/26/2014 5:02:42 PM PDT by VitacoreVision



Media Ridiculed for Hyping "Antarctic Collapse" Amid Record Ice

The New American
26 May 2014

In stark contrast to mainstream media's headlines of an imminent collapse of an Antarctic ice sheet, sea ice levels there are the highest ever recorded.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antarctic; climatechange; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; seaice; tna
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1 posted on 05/26/2014 5:02:42 PM PDT by VitacoreVision
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To: VitacoreVision
Seems to be record ice in a lot of places.

Lake Superior at Marquette Michigan yesterday.

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2 posted on 05/26/2014 5:05:27 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

PING!


3 posted on 05/26/2014 5:06:16 PM PDT by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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To: VitacoreVision

They are counting on a “common core” educated public to make the global warming scam work.


4 posted on 05/26/2014 5:06:17 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (If you lined up the best and brightest of this administration, you'd just have a string of dim bulbs)
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To: VitacoreVision

Yes, but how many people see New American vs. are exposed to the myriad MSM outlets?


5 posted on 05/26/2014 5:07:00 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: VitacoreVision
Media RATagandists Ridiculed for Hyping "Antarctic Collapse" Amid Record Ice

As well they should be.

7 posted on 05/26/2014 5:10:40 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: VitacoreVision
Evidently for the benefit of the "...stupid people--who constitute the grand overwhelming majority of this and all other nations--do believe and are moulded and convinced by what they get out of a newspaper [modern update: ‘the MSM’]. -- "License of the Press," speech, 1873.

NORTH POLE

SOUTH POLE

Green is ice present in 2013, which was not present in 1992. Red shows the opposite.


8 posted on 05/26/2014 5:13:51 PM PDT by QT3.14
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To: cripplecreek

Wow! Yesterday?!
Who is the lifeguard there for? Let me guess... He’s part of some government employee union?


9 posted on 05/26/2014 5:15:09 PM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: VitacoreVision
Increasingly it seems facts aren't necessary, because the tenets of environmentalism are all about belief. It's about whether you are going to be a sinner, or saved. Whether you are going to be one of the people on the side of salvation, or on the side of doom. Whether you are going to be one of us, or one of them.

Michael Crichton

10 posted on 05/26/2014 5:16:25 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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To: outofsalt

I just posted a story here.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3160380/posts


11 posted on 05/26/2014 5:20:58 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: cripplecreek
Up the shore at Duluth today:


12 posted on 05/26/2014 5:30:20 PM PDT by DManA
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To: QT3.14

Ouch! Oops...

That factual scientific data is not helpful to their cause.
I’m pretty sure that makes you a racist


13 posted on 05/26/2014 5:30:23 PM PDT by DanielRedfoot (Creepy Ass Cracker)
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To: DManA

LOL that’s some funny stuff but I know the locals must be getting damn tired of looking at it.


14 posted on 05/26/2014 5:32:12 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: QT3.14

Proof that the climate is changing.


15 posted on 05/26/2014 5:34:46 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

“Proof that the climate is changing.”

The Earth has a fever..........


16 posted on 05/26/2014 5:37:22 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: DManA

LOL


17 posted on 05/26/2014 5:38:10 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Lazamataz
"When the balloon goes up, the vast majority of the media must be killed."

The justification is without question. Method, however.

A: Uragan D2 is the most cost effective, but B: Shooting is so much more satisfying, and C: Hanging is street theater.

The real question is how serious we are...

18 posted on 05/26/2014 5:38:43 PM PDT by jonascord (Laeti vescimur nos subacturis)
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To: VitacoreVision

THE ANTARCTIC ICE IS MELTING!

It’s 70 below zero there.

oh.


19 posted on 05/26/2014 5:39:14 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: VitacoreVision

If Antarctica and Greenland ever thaw it will be a boon that will benefit the whole world. The trick is keeping the Sorosians from controlling it.


20 posted on 05/26/2014 5:41:27 PM PDT by marron
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To: jonascord

But what if you shoot em, and then hang em?


21 posted on 05/26/2014 5:41:47 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: DManA

OH MY!!!! When all that ice melts the there will be coastal flooding all the way to Illinois!


22 posted on 05/26/2014 5:47:34 PM PDT by Hillary'sMoralVoid
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

Ha. Good one. Once it finally melts in August the greenies will be panicking about the melting of the great Lake Superior glacier.


23 posted on 05/26/2014 5:54:27 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Lazamataz
When the balloon goes up, the vast majority of the media must be killed.

Nah, just repurposed.....like record keeping.....at the DMV.

24 posted on 05/26/2014 6:07:32 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: VitacoreVision
From the article:

"The media’s collapsing credibility and outrageous fear-mongering almost certainly plays a role in the fact that most Americans do not believe the much-hyped global-warming theories — and the fact that “climate” consistently ranks dead last on the public’s list of priorities."
25 posted on 05/26/2014 6:09:14 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: DManA

only because I can’t resist.

There seems to be a beached whale in your picture.

Now I’m running for the hills heh.


26 posted on 05/26/2014 6:09:42 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: marron
"Sorosians"

That has a satisfyingly reptilian sound to it - very appropriate for the people it applies to.

27 posted on 05/26/2014 6:10:44 PM PDT by Flag_This (Liberalism: Kills countries dead.)
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To: Bulwyf

HEY! That’s my WIFE!!

Just kidding.


28 posted on 05/26/2014 6:10:48 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Lazamataz
When the balloon goes up, the vast majority of the media must be killed.

Yep.
29 posted on 05/26/2014 6:14:12 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: DManA

That is a hilarious photo. People getting a tan with ice out in the water.


30 posted on 05/26/2014 6:14:15 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Bulwyf

only because I can’t resist.

There seems to be a beached whale in your picture.

Now I’m running for the hills heh.


I believe that is a fine specimen of Americanus Arcticus.


31 posted on 05/26/2014 6:17:26 PM PDT by The Working Man
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To: SunkenCiv; Nachum; neverdem; narses; MHGinTN; SoothingDave; xsmommy; QT3.14
I wrote the following on May 12 at www.wattsupwiththat.com, just a few days after the Antarctic Sea Ice anomaly this month was “only” 97% the size of Greenland. The Antarctic sea ice anomaly is a little smaller today (May 24) at 1.38 Mkm^2. But the lesson remains. Arctic sea ice extent at minimum is not only misleading and a false indicator of the planet’s heating (or cooling) trends, but is the WRONG indicator to watch. But, a negative Arctic sea ice anomaly is the ONLY thing the CAGW religion has left.

Submitted on 2014/05/12 at 2:39 pm All data from last week’s WUWT (May 8) Sea Ice Page. (Today’s values (May 12) are slightly lower. Then again, we are 5 days closer to the maximum solar exposure in the Arctic. Thereafter, the arctic gets less sun every day.) But the Antarctic gets more sunshine everyday after June 22 as well.)

1. “Excess” total sea ice area anomaly is now (May 8) greater than 1.050 million sq km’s.

Hmmmn. An “excess” total sea ice area anomaly (which combines both the Arctic and Antarctic sea ice areas together) approaching the size of Hudson Bay.

2. “Excess” Antarctic sea ice area is now 1.67 Million sq km’s (May 8)… Or 97% the area of the entire Greenland ice cap. (A fact which 97% of government-paid climate scientists in the Obama administration will chose to ignore.)

3. By itself, “Excess” Antarctic sea ice area is now back over 1.67 Mkm^2 … a level only reached 5 times before.

A level NEVER reached between 1979 and 2007 in the entire modern (global warming) era, but a level that has been passed five times in the 7 years between 2007 and 2014. Obviously, the more CO2 is in the air, the more Antarctic sea ice area keep increasing, right?

Combine this with the “Inconvenient Fact” that actual measured satellite global temperatures have NOT increased since 1996 … Makes Obama and NASA and NOAA and the NSIDC seem a bit – “premature” maybe in claiming that global warming is a national crisis?

4. “Excess” Antarctic sea ice area in 2014 is now (May 8) about 1.0 Mkm^2 GREATER than 2013′s sea ice area on this date last year. And 2013 set a record-breaking maximum Antarctic sea ice area in late December. Makes you wonder what will come later in this year.

5. And the Great Lakes sea ice – which is NOT included in the NSIDC’s “sea ice area” calculations! – has not yet melted away – but we are now in the second week in May. Steel, iron ore, coal production are already being affected, companies have already announced second quarter incomes and jobs are being affected in the Great Lakes region.

Now, Arctic sea ice is of course melting, and Arctic sea ice area has been dropping since early April as it does every year. Total sunlight onto the Arctic is increasing, and will increase until June 22 – about 5 weeks from now. Arctic sea ice will continue melting through the long summer days up north. But Arctic sea ice will continue decreasing its albedo until late July – decreasing from its present 0.93 to towards its low of 0.45 or so in July. But by mid-September when Arctic sea ice is at its minimum and Antarctic sea ice will be near its maximum, the Antarctic sea ice edge will be irradiated by five TIMES as much solar energy per square meter than the Arctic sea ice edge.

So, if 5 times the solar radiation falls on 1.67 million “extra” square kilometers of newly-frozen “excess” Antarctic sea ice than falls on a missing 0.4 Mkm^2 of Arctic sea ice, what happens to the planet’s total heat balance?

Do we not cool off even more?

32 posted on 05/26/2014 6:22:07 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: QT3.14

AFAIK, they’re talking about those red zones at the base of the Antarctic Peninsula, on the left. These are the outlets of glaciers which until recently had been grounded below sea level, but have recently thinned enough to allow seepage under their base, so that they “suddenly” become floating ice shelves and “Bang! Zoom!” there goes the glacier.

So this is the point.


33 posted on 05/26/2014 6:22:33 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: VitacoreVision
What is more frightening than Global Warming is the government, the environmentalists in the government trough and the State Owned Media propagandists. They are as ruthless as the Nazis of the past and have at their motivation, the destruction of Capitalism. They are the same Progressives influenced by Das Kapital that started their movement in opposition to the industrial Capitalists of the late 1900s. They have created an epistemology that is a religion--a church--to maintain the fervor of the devoted. These people are trying to take over our energy production system, the heart of our Capitalist system. We must fight them with every fiber of strength. Their epistemology of theorists has fractured, vulgarized and impoverished all societies that it has touched. If it takes down the United States, the lifeblood of wealth that it brings to the world will end with a world wide catastrophe.
34 posted on 05/26/2014 6:22:44 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: VitacoreVision

“Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed: everything else is public relations.”

— George Orwell


35 posted on 05/26/2014 6:32:03 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The “fourth estate”has morphed into a 5th column)
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To: jonrick46
What is more frightening than Global Warming is the government, the environmentalists in the government trough and the State Owned Media propagandists.

As in any scam, there is money to be made.

There is also power and control of others to be gained.

36 posted on 05/26/2014 6:37:58 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The “fourth estate”has morphed into a 5th column)
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To: dr_lew; neverdem; SunkenCiv; cogitator
AFAIK, they’re talking about those red zones at the base of the Antarctic Peninsula, on the left. These are the outlets of glaciers which until recently had been grounded below sea level, but have recently thinned enough to allow seepage under their base, so that they “suddenly” become floating ice shelves and “Bang! Zoom!” there goes the glacier.

They claim the WAIS (actually, three glaciers feeding from the WAIS, or 5% of the WAIS ice itself) are retreating catastrophically.
Fine.

They claim the “retreating” is due to, or a symptom of, or is occurring simultaneously with, or is measured by a “retreat of the grounding line” towards deeper water. This deeper water is between the original grounding line, and the original continental bedrock at the original shoreline way back upstream of the glacier.

OK, fine.

So … If the moving glacier were melting on the bottom (due to an assumed “warmer water” current getting blown in somehow underneath 450 – 550 kilometers of packed antarctic sea ice!) then the glacier ice would be shallower at least near the tip, right? If not shallower completely across the toe of the glacier underwater, it would be weaker or less consistent and less able to resist the relentless pressure pushing down from the billions of tons of glacier ice higher up (further away from the grounding line), right?

So, if the bottom “toe” of the glacier were melting and were weakening or were disappearing completely, would not that relentless force of the upstream glacier ice FORCE the tip of the glacier to move DOWNSTREAM and further away from the continental sea coast? If it were melting underneath, then it would be shallower, and the glacier would move further UP the shallow slope of the grounding line bedrock?

So, the shallower the glacier ice -> the less ice there is underwater -> for the same force pushing the glacier “downstream” the tip of the glacier must be expanding (getting longer!) or getting pushed further “up” the sloping bedrock underwater -> the further forward the top of the glacier must be observed!

The deeper the glacier ice, the quicker it hits the sloped grounding line underwater, the further BACK the glacier is touching the grounding line bedrock, and the further back the “top” of the glacier appears to be moving.

37 posted on 05/26/2014 6:49:30 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: VitacoreVision

I don’t think the ice sheet collapse has anything to do with the record sea ice levels.


38 posted on 05/26/2014 6:52:01 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Iron Munro

You are correct. It is a scam. We the taxpayers are pouring our hard earned cash into the government trough. These scammers have free reign. They line the politician’s pockets to get access to the trough and they lie to the propagandists to get the people’s acquiescence. It is a money circle that is as diabolical as cancer, with the same results.


39 posted on 05/26/2014 7:16:13 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: DManA

LOL! I will admit, the thought did cross my mind as I posted that. I was praying you’d have a sense of humor heh


40 posted on 05/26/2014 7:18:32 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Well, I’m chewing on it!


41 posted on 05/26/2014 7:34:41 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: DManA
If that's real, which seems doubtful, it wasn't today:


42 posted on 05/26/2014 7:54:19 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Bulwyf

As you said, I couldn’t resist.


43 posted on 05/26/2014 7:59:07 PM PDT by DManA
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To: dr_lew

It’s good to be skeptical but yes, that was from today.

http://www.duluthharborcam.com/


44 posted on 05/26/2014 8:02:19 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA
Well, 2 days can make a difference! ( As your link shows visible ice on 5/24 )


45 posted on 05/26/2014 8:43:31 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: VitacoreVision

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/

From the above link:

Peer-Reviewed Survey Finds Majority Of Scientists Skeptical Of Global Warming Crisis

It is becoming clear that not only do many scientists dispute the asserted global warming crisis, but these skeptical scientists may indeed form a scientific consensus.

Don’t look now, but maybe a scientific consensus exists concerning global warming after all. Only 36 percent of geoscientists and engineers believe that humans are creating a global warming crisis, according to a survey reported in the peer-reviewed Organization Studies. By contrast, a strong majority of the 1,077 respondents believe that nature is the primary cause of recent global warming and/or that future global warming will not be a very serious problem.


46 posted on 05/26/2014 8:48:10 PM PDT by GOPJ (Someone explain why {the MSM} uses the term 'liberal' to describe totalitarian sociopaths. BruceinOz)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ...

Thanks Robert A. Cook, PE.


47 posted on 05/26/2014 10:24:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: dr_lew

It’s quite real. I saw it with my own eyes on Sunday. Duluth Harbor still has large chunks of lake ice in it. The ice does tend to move between Duluth and the South Shore depending on which way the wind is blowing but this is the latest ice-out on the big lake that I can remember.


48 posted on 05/26/2014 10:29:04 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Compromise" means you've already decided you lost.)
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To: DManA

I love the sunbathers on the “ beach”. How desperate are they to catch some UV?


49 posted on 05/26/2014 10:41:46 PM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: QT3.14
Green is ice present in 2013, which was not present in 1992.

It's not that the ice shelf is collapsing, it's that IT'S TURNING GREEN !

50 posted on 05/27/2014 3:33:14 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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