Posted on 05/28/2014 2:30:51 AM PDT by markomalley
Yes, yes, and more yes.
The only caveat I have with your post is that the Sandy Hook killer’s mother was insane as well - buying that kid guns.
Also, who paid for this Santa Barbara killer’s guns? Mommy & Daddy? Does he get such a large allowance that he can go buy any kind of weapon he wants? When I was a kid the only money I got in college was lunch money and subway money.
Until the Conservative movement starts using events like these to ATTACK and DESTROY Liberals, (the same way the libs do to us after events like this), then we'll continue to get our asses kicked.
unfortunately she is limiting her criticism to white male Hollywood
I guess she considers black entertainment, music and movies, to be real family fare.
I know a woman who allowed her mentally ill son to keep knives and chain saws in his bedroom. He’s now serving a life sentence for murdering his social worker. I believe that she is also legally and morally culpable. On the other hand, parenting a mentally ill child can be exhausting. It sounds like they had professionals telling them that he was not violent. But they knew. The mentally ill children I have known were not violent. I hate to see them lumped in with this guy. Asperger and even autistic kids generally withdraw and don’t act out. I have seen someone go from certifiably nuts to sane within 30 minutes of taking the right medication. Hard to know what to do.
this
sadly
no use saying they did their due diligence to their son or anyone by spending the last decade paying a bunch of useless therapists who were all conned by a psychopath
For a parent to allow a mentally ill kid to keep knives, chain saws and guns in his room, to me, is being an accessory to a crime. The parent must pay a price. How else to - at least - stop parents from enabling their sick kids?!
Well, yes, you do have a good point! But it’s mostly men who run Hollywood and they should all hang their heads in shame for the degradation they have brought on American culture.
Not buying. These parents had the money to have the boy committed to a psych ward, if even for a few days of evaluation. Had they done so, the “law” as it exists would have stopped his purchase of firearms during the background check. The family also funded the son’s lifestyle without controlling him, even though he was known to be a troubled kid who refused to take his meds. His father is neck-deep in creating the dysfunctional culture of lurid violent films and commercialism, violent video-game fantasy worlds (note how the son’s “Retribution” is little morem than a bad script for a video game), and shallow materialist obsessions. There is no evidence that the son received an iota of moral grounding, something even nuts can absorb. The values Elliot Rodger learned from his family instead placed appearances over content, and he took to heart the images of success Hollywood sells (fancy cars, blonde bimbos, artificial good-looks, violence as a cool solution, unearned wealth, humiliation if you don’t have it, self-obsession, envying what others have, etc.). Peter Rodger’s solutions: Continue your own selfish pursuits; dump son’s mother and take up with new woman; pay a therapist to fix the boy; blame others. This apple did not fall far from the tree.
This family had the evidence & the money to house the kid in a private institution & keep him off the streets.
He was a time bomb.
Hollyweird quit showing smoking in movies because they said it’s a bad influence on kids... they still show graphic murders in movies.
And it was the good guys with guns the left sneers at who stopped Elliot Rodger’s killing spree.
We aren’t rethinking the First Amendment because of Rodger’s YouTube videos and manifesto. Why are we supposed to rethink the Second Amendment every time some psycho includes guns in his killing spree? The problem was not with Rodger’s computer, his smartphone, his hammer, his machete or his handguns. They were only the tools that he used. The problem was with him.
Greenfield's amazing - the country can benefit from his insights... and lots of folks I know too...
And it was the good guys with guns the left sneers at who stopped Elliot Rodger’s killing spree.
We aren’t rethinking the First Amendment because of Rodger’s YouTube videos and manifesto. Why are we supposed to rethink the Second Amendment every time some psycho includes guns in his killing spree? The problem was not with Rodger’s computer, his smartphone, his hammer, his machete or his handguns. They were only the tools that he used. The problem was with him.
Greenfield's amazing - the country can benefit from his insights... and lots of folks I know too...
Problems arise when you put the power of the State behind that "mental health professional," one who dared not alienate the parents by pronouncing the kid's problems as so serious that he might need to be institutionalized. To do so would be the end of that steady customer.
The same is true of the therapeutic State. Once the State gains the power to decide who is sane and who is not, "sanity" will be defined by fealty to an unlimited state. It will be Catch-22 everywhere: 'Only sane people can own guns; anybody who wants to own a gun is insane.'
The only "mental health" system with no stake in the disease is one run by charity, a function that used to be performed largely by churches and civic organizations. No charity can afford a customer who does not improve. The trial lawyers destroyed all of that, with the blessing of socialists in black robes.
He was under the care of a therapist and was prescribed anti-psychotic medications. He had stopped taking the medications and uploaded several disturbing videos to youtube. His therapist was concerned enough to call the police; the police went out to the apartment and talked to him for about half an hour and took no further action. They should have watched the videos--which would have given them reason to request a search warrant--and had they searched, they would have found the weapons. They also should have taken him in for psychiatric evaluation, since it was not their call to deem him sane.
There is only so much parents can do with a mentally ill child, especially where committing someone indefinitely is nearly impossible. They also probably thought the illness was under control with the medications.
His family had the resources to commit him to psychiatric care.
His family basically threw him out in the world knowing he had serious problems and simply hoped for the best while giving him the resources to do nothing but stew in his own pity without requiring any job/work on his part.
His family definitely has some serious responsibility for what happened.
The Sandy Hook killer reportedly had robbed the murder weapons from his mother. That’s not the same as her buying them for him.
But yeah, I imagine they furnished Rodgers enough to let him live high on the hog. A gun or two was pin money to him.
Maybe they hoped that a college education would get him going in a constructive direction.
OK - but the parents of the Sandy Hook killer allowed him to sit in his darkened room, watch violent video games and generally behave in an insane way. She also took her crazy kid to the gun range. Personally, I think these particular parents were as nutty as hell.
To take a maddened kid to a gun range was dangerous to everybody there, let alone the kid.
Anyhow, it’s not always the madman who has all the illusions. Sometimes it’s his family too.
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