Posted on 05/28/2014 4:56:17 AM PDT by Kaslin
Or two weeks without a welfare check.
At one time all those plants had Americans working in them. Nobody wants to work with Mexicans in them.
When I was young I worked in a turkey plant. When the Mexicans started moving in I left. I went to a potato shed and worked the onions in that same shed. The Mexicans started moving into the onion shed and eventually into the potato sheds. Now a white person can’t be found.
No one wants to work with them. That’s the truth.
H1-B visas work pretty much the same way. Some corporations are eager to sell out America.
We never hired anyone there as the skill level was above the average worker.
Don Tyson is the King of bringing bus loads of Mexican labor to NW AR. To staff his Chicken and Turkey Plants! Which ultimately affected the Construction industry with cheap underbid projects. Not all Mexicans wanted to stay Chicken Plant workers.
Haley, that's because the taking away of jobs started in the 70s and 80s while you weren't watching. Today, it's a fait accompli and you're a fool for advocating that we wash, rinse, & repeat the cycle through amnesty.
In Arkansas BLAME WALMART!
Back in the dark ages this area was in the economic stranglehold of the Chicken Men! you worked at their starvation wages or you didn’t work. People here were too poor to go to where jobs were.
Then Sam Walton started his Walmart stores and things began to change. He offered better wages than the Chicken Men so workers deserted the chicken plants to work for Sam.
An accountant working for the Chicken Men found a way to increase wages in the processing plants .25 cents an hour(which was worth a couple of dollars in today’s money) and it would not affect the bottom line of the companies.
I still remember the words of the President of the local Chicken company...”I’m not going to give them .25 cents an hour raise!”
He was the first Chicken Man to go to Mexico and bring in bus loads of workers to replace those who had gone to Walmart.
175 years ago Barbour would have been extolling the virtues of owning negros. Big Chicken, Big Sheetrock, Big Cotton... the tune is the same.
The quote is from Mark Krikorian, a senior executive at the Center for Immigration Studies.
Krikorian used to be one of the people I admired most in the Immigration debate.
Unfortunately, about 6 months ago, Krikorian wrote a long essay at National Review Online where he advocated that “several million” of the 12 million illegal aliens be put on a path to citizenship.
He also advocated several other compromises with the “Gang of Eight” Amnesty.
Literally - there is NO one in the GOP leadership who can be completely trusted anymore on the Immigration issue!
Anyway, Bill Clinton started Basic Pilot and Tyson was one of the first companies to use that. Tyson(or any company participating) checks their new hires against fedgovs list and if the new hire is on the list, they can't hire them. It catches a lot of them, but it wasn't foolproof so some illegals slipped thru the system. They all knew it wasn't perfect. Tyson knew it, Clinton and fedgov knew it.
But Clinton thought Tyson was gaming the system. That Tyson was targeting illegals in their recruitment programs, knowing that a percentage of these illegals they were targeting would slip thru the system.
So in 1998 Clinton went after Tyson on a criminal prosecution. Before this the govt only used civil prosecutions. And Clinton was going after corporate management. The Justice Dept ended up with over 200 indictments but when the case got into court the judge thru all but a few of them out.
The verdict came down in 2004 when Bush was prez and there were only two convictions with the jury foreman saying that if fedgov can't accurately say who is legal and who is illegal, how is Tyson supposed to know or say who is or isn't. They convicted a couple of local Tyson plant managers in MS and LA for knowingly hiring illegals.
That decision set the precedents for Bush and Obama. Criminal prosecutions are few and far between. Mostly civil prosecutions.
The guy up the street is a skilled union tradesman who, about a year after Obama got elected, managed to scam his way onto SSI/SNAP and now spends his days sitting around drinking and watching porn.
Get every single guy like THAT off his duff and out there rebuilding hurricane-ravaged areas. Then if we still need more immigrant help, we can talk.
There is no more hostile work place for a non-"spanish speaker" than one where "spanish speakers" have taken over.
Re: “Immigration reform” isn’t intended to bring cheap labor into this country. It’s aimed at bringing a new generation of consumers here — which is why the automation argument doesn’t hold any water in this debate.”
You make an important point, Alberta.
But I disagree with your math.
Immigration is the political subject I know best, and I think mass LEGAL immigration serves four purposes, all of them with some level of importance.
(1) Cheap and docile labor
(2) New consumers for American business
(3) Temporary income stream for Baby Boomer’s Social Security-Medicare
(4) Democrat Party voters
I think #4 is the most important.
New immigrant citizens vote 80% for the Democrat Party.
If they voted 80% Conservative, the Democrat Party would totally shut down legal immigration, and they would do it INSTANTLY.
Cut off welfare and there will be riots. There was a glitch in the EBT cards in a GA county and the angry baby mamas breathing fire were lined up outside the welfare office before it opened the next morning. One of them actually said, “what about my children? Sombody’s got to pay for my children; somebody has to be responsibile .” No one put a mirror in front of her to show her who that somebody ought to be. The social worker just assured them the money would soon be available.
This situation occurred less than 8 hours after money was supposed to be deposited in their accounts. Two weeks without funds and I imagine our major cities would burn.
Funny, I don't recall a power in the Constitution that allows Congress to function as an accessory to extortion (hint: the "welfare clause" isn't it). Once it starts, there is no end to it without paying the price of blood. Therefore, the disastrous results are inevitable.
So the real question is: Pay it now, or pay more later?
From de Tocqueville observing the difference between slave state Kentucky and free state Ohio:
“Upon the left bank of the stream the population is rare; from time to time one descries a troop of slaves loitering in the half-desert fields; the primaeval forest recurs at every turn; society seems to be asleep, man to be idle, and nature alone offers a scene of activity and of life. From the right bank, on the contrary, a confused hum is heard which proclaims the presence of industry; the fields are covered with abundant harvests, the elegance of the dwellings announces the taste and activity of the laborer, and man appears to be in the enjoyment of that wealth and contentment which is the reward of labor.”
Why don’t Americans want to work with them? Language barrier and only friendly to each other? Or is it something else?
Language barrier is one reason. Younger Mexican men leer at young white women and show them no respect. Then the Mexican women don’t like you because their men do. I also worked with South American men. Only thing that saved me was I was in a position that could give them orders. Boy do some of them hate that. It is all cultural. Part of their macho man thing.
Haley Barbour ping.
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