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Valeria Plame: CIA Outing ‘Stupid,’ but False Equivalence to Compare to Mine
Mediaite ^ | 05/30/2014 | by Josh Feldman

Posted on 05/30/2014 7:13:14 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Valerie Plame, the former CIA officer who was infamously outed during the Bush administration, was on CNN yesterday to react to the accidental outing of another CIA official this week. Plame called it “colossally stupid,” but made it clear this is in no way equivalent to what happened to her. Plame’s outing over ten years ago turned into a full-fledged scandal that implicated a number of Bush administration officials, which she doesn’t believe is in par with one person’s “colossally stupid” accident.

Plame told Wolf Blitzer this week’s embarrassment was “an error of huge proportions with tremendous consequences,” but the difference here is, she said, “my name was intended to be leaked in retaliation against my husband, who was a fierce critic of the Bush administration and the Iraq War.”

On this particular case, Plame did say it raises a serious issue of security clearances and how many people should get them. And furthermore, there are plenty of disastrous implications of a CIA station chief’s name being out there when that information may end up in the hands of people who might want to inflict serious harm upon them.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cia; outing; valerieplame
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To: Cboldt
But he had specifically requested and received information about her, and “shopped” that information around to reporters.

Requested information from who, and what reporters?

41 posted on 05/30/2014 8:35:37 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: John S Mosby
"And folks, she was never undercover except as it applies to all CIA personnel in certain sections."

She gave a $1,000 political donation to Al Gore, giving the so-called CIA undercover company Jennings-Brewster as her then employer. How legal is that?

42 posted on 05/30/2014 8:40:32 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: SeekAndFind
So, why was he not jailed?

Armitrage didn't know Plame was a covert CIA agent. He thought she just worked for the CIA, and that's what he told Novak.

Armitrage apparently learned about Plame from a State Department memo, which made no mention of her covert status. Technically, the author of that memo is the one that made the unauthorized disclosure, but he/she has never been identified.

43 posted on 05/30/2014 8:40:40 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
ok, so then, it sounds as if the liberal view is that, the outing of Valerie Plame was a treasonous scandal, because it happened during a Republican presidency.

But, this event happening during a Democrat administration is simply a mistake, which has no major consequences, and which will not be a treasonous scandal.

Ding, ding, ding - we have a thread winnah!

44 posted on 05/30/2014 8:43:19 AM PDT by GOPJ (>The Mainstream Ministry of Information does not stand for liberty. Freeper Gene Eric)
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To: justlurking
Working from memory ... Libby, through official channels, requested and obtained information from CIA about "Wilson's wife." It was some official "inside the government" request, at any rate.

He either shopped it or hinted at confirmation to Tim Russert, Matt Cooper, and Judy Miller.

Whether he "shopped" it or not has no affect on his conviction. The misleading part of his cooperation with the investigation was his claim that he didn't know, except from reporters, that Wilson's wife worked at the CIA.

45 posted on 05/30/2014 8:48:43 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Sacajaweau
It didn't ruin her life. She loved the publicity and benefited.

She and Joe Wilson were lovin' it. Here's their double-page spread in Vanity Fair magazine:


46 posted on 05/30/2014 8:50:38 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Albion Wilde

There are many, many people in WDC who should be in prison or exiled. Unfortunately...


47 posted on 05/30/2014 9:00:44 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: All

Yeah...Much, much more danger working at a desk pushing papers at Langley than being the Head of Section in Afghanistan....Just don’t see how she stayed safe after that...


48 posted on 05/30/2014 9:01:37 AM PDT by Boonie
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To: Boonie

section=station.....


49 posted on 05/30/2014 9:03:09 AM PDT by Boonie
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To: Albion Wilde

Check out the photo is she try be 1950 film star here HELLO


50 posted on 05/30/2014 9:03:40 AM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Democrats and scandal remind me of a Mel Brooks quote:
“Comedy is when you fall through a manhole. Tragedy is when I stub my toe.”
Of course Brooks was genuinely funny while the Democrats are mawkishly comical:
“If you do it, someone’s going to prison; if we do it, a desk jockey a week a way from retirement retires a week early (with full pension).”


51 posted on 05/30/2014 9:19:21 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Cboldt
He either shopped it or hinted at confirmation to Tim Russert, Matt Cooper, and Judy Miller.

Russert told an FBI agent that they didn't discuss Plame at all. The agent testified to this effect during the trial, as Russert had passed away.

Judy Miller testified that her notes from an intervew with Libby simply said that "Wilson's wife may have worked on unconventional weapons at the CIA". He didn't identify her by name, and didn't say anything about her covert status.

Matthew Cooper actually asked Libby "If he had heard anything about Wilson's wife sending her husband to Niger", and Libby reportedly responded to the effect of: "Yeah, I've heard that too". He said nothing about her covert status or even working for the CIA.

The misleading part of his cooperation with the investigation was his claim that he didn't know, except from reporters, that Wilson's wife worked at the CIA.

Libby doesn't dispute that that he first learned about it from Cheney -- he testified that he realized it later. The question is whether he intentionally concealed it at the time of the investigation and grand jury testimony.

My problem with all of this is that Libby apparently didn't even know Plame was a covert agent. So, like Armitrage, there was no crime committed other than his recollection about the order in which things occurred.

Fitzgerald knew the source of the leak right away. So, why was he so intent on getting some conviction?

52 posted on 05/30/2014 9:19:30 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: justlurking
-- The question is whether he intentionally concealed it [that he know Wilson's wife worked at CIA] at the time of the investigation and grand jury testimony. --

Right. That was the essential premise for the criminal charge. I think the jury got it right. There was too much evidence, outside of his remarks/conversations with reporters, that Libby was interested in "Wilson's wife works at the CIA." My memory might be faulty, but I believe there was evidence beyond just hearing it from Cheney. Libby affirmatively made inquiries through official channels.

-- So, like Armitrage, there was no crime committed other than his recollection about the order in which things occurred. --

There is no crime in innocent error in recollection. The charge was that he deliberately mislead the investigators and grand jury.

-- Fitzgerald knew the source of the leak right away. So, why was he so intent on getting some conviction? --

He's a self-promoter, just like everybody else in the government.

53 posted on 05/30/2014 9:29:45 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

“It’s okay when we do it”


54 posted on 05/30/2014 9:31:32 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: SeekAndFind

Did plame mention yet that it was Armitage who leaked her name and not rove or Libby or Cheney which she asserted for years?

She’s a witch.


55 posted on 05/30/2014 9:40:54 AM PDT by what's up (sun)
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To: SeekAndFind
She is right -- there is no equivalence between the "outing" of a person who wasn't actually in the field, and a person serving our country in a dangerous spot.

Also, the station chief didn't use his position to try to politically attack the administration, or to pull strings to get jobs for his wife like she did for her husband.

Nor did he inject himself into an on-going story in a way that would allow a reporter to figure out what he did, like Plame did.

56 posted on 05/30/2014 10:07:53 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: SeekAndFind

She was so covert, her code name was Valerie Plame.


57 posted on 05/30/2014 10:36:19 AM PDT by Bucky14 (And I would have gotten away with it too, if not for you meddling kids!)
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To: SevenofNine
Check out the photo is she try be 1950 film star here HELLO

Looks more like a female Democrat visiting a mosque to me.


58 posted on 05/30/2014 11:39:03 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: SeekAndFind

Lady speaks with forked tongue.


59 posted on 05/30/2014 1:00:17 PM PDT by Wicket (1 Peter 3:15 , Romans 5:5-8)
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To: SeekAndFind
For once the Bimbo has a clue.
Plame was a desk jockey at Langley, snug as a bug in a rug.
The guy outed in Afghanistan by the bungling Obama morons is in the belly of the beast.
No equivalence.
60 posted on 05/30/2014 1:32:06 PM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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