Posted on 06/02/2014 3:57:36 AM PDT by Kaslin
Bump
“Don’t bother me with the facts, my minds made up”.
Exactly. One of their favorite tactics is the red herring. They'll try to go off on a tangent, and eventually wind up on another subject altogether. This leaves you and those who may be listening confused, and puts the Lefty in control. Don't let them. Focus on the subject at hand. Use phrases like, "Stick to the subject", "One thing at a time", or "What the hell are you talking about...we were talking about (fill in the blank)."
Also, don't use big words that the typical Generation.commer won't understand. We conservatives have a tendency to want to show how smart we are...resist this urge. We want to talk to people, not at them. If your argument goes over their heads, they'll lose interest and walk away.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
“You waste time arguing with people who have been brainwashed by Communist professors and the state-run media. Life is too short to waste on fools.”
I agree completely. I pity the interviewers on TV who out of fairness have to give them time to espouse the party-provided Talking Points.
It’s usually about as productive as explaining baseball to a cat.
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To be honest, I don't have the energy for that, I am very much focused on trying to exclude people from my sphere of getting along on this earth who are intransigent and who suck the joy out of my life. It's just not worth the negativity. It's like the Bible says .... Matthew 10:14 If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet. I take the time to state my case - pro God, pro life, pro traditional family & marriage, pro 2A, conservative, anti big government, etc. at which point they are upset/enraged to the point of being screaming meemies, and then I shake the dust (& them) off my feet and move on.
But know this people. It takes training and temperament to "debate" with a liberal. You have to realize going in that while you have facts and reason on your side, they have emotion, their positions are built on faith (not grounded by facts/reality), and they have no limits - you will be insulted. Don't take it personally, it is not you, it is them.
Spot on, and a brilliant post!
Liberals aim at the complete destruction of society, morally, economically, intellectually...Detroit is their poster child. They don’t engage on a fair or rational basis, as you said it’s all about bludgeoning their opponents to shut up.
I was reminded about the recent college debate nonsense, wherein some liberal students decided that the rules of debate were “racist”. They ignored the rules, went over the time limits and didn’t even address the topic, they changed it in fact, yet these students actually WON!
Counterattack is the best defense.
My cat understands baseball. She just prefers soccer.
Except the Republican Party leaders think -- really, truly believe -- these people are rational and can be negotiated with. Experience and history say otherwise!
The second half of this is that we have an absolute responsibility to raise our children not only with traditional values but also understanding why those values are superior to liberalism. Each of my kids can articulate why socialism is bad, why following the Bible is good, and (as absurd as it may seem to even think this needs justification, it does) why individual freedom is good. Liberals kill their own children, and they will die out if we deny them successful access to our kids.
I work for the USPS. I have done so for over twenty years. When I first signed on, management was fond of saying that the USPS was the second largest employer on the face of planet earth, being beaten out by only the People's Liberation Army of Red China. It was horribly inefficient, and rife with waste, abuse, and outright fraud.
They no longer make this claim, but the waste, abuse, and outright fraud is still ongoing, largely because, like anything in government at any level you care to name, (local, state, or federal), there is absolutely zip-point squat, to the doodly power, by way of accountability. Government entities are very good at ducking accountability, it is what they spend most of their time actually doing, while the supposed 'public mission', what they were purportedly created for in the first place, rates a poor second, or even third. Since that is 'the true nature of the beast' things will not change...
the infowarrior
Same here. If they dare to being up a subject, I first ask them what they know about it. In all cases, they are grossly under-informed or not at all engaged in the topic. It then becomes easy pickins’. But I do not waste much time with this maroons.
Care to guess who she voted for? (Hint: Both she and her husband drive SUVs - one of which she uses to drive the 75-ft distance from her garage to the top of her driveway in order to retrieve her mail. Yet she lectures me in my 40-mpg compact about global warming.)
True, but that's not the worst of it. Republicans negotiate as though Democrats were honorable people.
It depends. A lot of the time, your target is not the lib, your target is the audience the lib is talking to.
And while you are very unlikely to convert a lib in any given conversation, you may find yourself planting seeds of doubt in his (or more likely, her) brain.
“cemented mindset”! That’s the phrase. Just fun to take a little hide from em and then move on. I can tell within a few seconds how any discussion will end with a libtard. They are the only thing that is transparent.
“Except the Republican Party leaders think — really, truly believe — these people are rational and can be negotiated with. Experience and history say otherwise!”
I used to believe that, now I think only conservative Republicans aren’t in bed with Dems.
Well said.
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