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Verbal or Written Permission Could be Required For College Sex
LA Weekly ^ | Wed, Jun 4, 2014 | Dennis Romero

Posted on 06/04/2014 2:20:59 PM PDT by nickcarraway

You're in the heat of the moment, rounding third, but then you must stop and ask, Can I have your verbal or written consent to have sex with you?

Sounds quite unspontaneous. But a law co-authored by L.A. state Sen. Kevin de Leon would have state-run college campuses establish an "affirmative consent" standard for its students.

According to the language of the bill, SB 967, students who want to have sex must essentially establish that there has been "an affirmative, unambiguous, and conscious decision by each participant to engage in mutually agreed-upon sexual activity." In fact, the legislation says, ... ... It is the responsibility of the person who wants to engage in initiating the sexual activity to ensure that he or she has the consent of the other person to engage in the sexual activity. Lack of protest or resistance does not mean consent, nor does silence mean consent. No more making sexy faces and sounds for you. You've got to verbalize. Or get it on paper.

A rep for Leon said that the University of California system, as well as other noted institutions around the nation, have already adopted a similar policy. And she emphasized that this was just one aspect of a law aimed at changing the culture of California campuses when it comes to sexual assault and harassment.

The legislation, which was recently approved by the Senate, would also require state colleges and universities to establish standards for student or campus sex that already exist under California law:

People accused of assault, for example, couldn't use being drunk as an excuse. And it would be assault to have sex with someone who's asleep, unconscious or otherwise unable to give consent.

Leon's rep explained that while this is also part of current law, campuses have their own systems of student discipline, and without expressly laying down the rules for colleges as well, some suspects could fall through the cracks. And some victims could shy away.

With this law, it would all be there in black and white for each and every state campus. They would have to abide.

The bill appears to be a response to last month's release of a U.S. Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights roster of 55 schools that face inquiries over their handling of the sex-assault reports.

De Leon says:

The federal government is currently investigating 55 colleges and universities. Obviously, there is a problem. SB 967 will change the equation so the system is not stacked against survivors by establishing an affirmative consent policy to make it clear that only 'yes' means 'yes.'

Bill co-author Hannah-Beth Jackson, a state Senator from Santa Barbara, adds:

... Events in Isla Vista confirm that misogyny exists on and around our campuses, and we need to confront it. This bill makes a strong statement that California is moving from a culture of acceptance to a 'no excuses' culture. No excuses for rape. No excuses for blaming the victims of rape. No excusing for not supporting these victims. And no excuses for colleges and universities turning a blind eye to the problem of campus sexual assault and violence.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: college
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To: nickcarraway

Why not just cut to the chase and require men to submit written applications to the Women’s Studies Department for their Beta Male Sex Cards, first? That’s where this is eventually going. :)


41 posted on 06/04/2014 2:59:17 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL-GALT-DELETE])
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To: Tallguy

It’s not the score that counts... it’s all about beating the spread.


42 posted on 06/04/2014 3:00:33 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: nickcarraway
Seriously, some enterprising people could make a business out of this.

43 posted on 06/04/2014 3:01:23 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: nickcarraway

Some enterprising coder should be able to write an app for this that works via smartphones. THEN, the consenting “adults” can be tracked in some way. Say, check-in, check-out, comments and rating section on the other partner; you know, the usual stuff.


44 posted on 06/04/2014 3:01:49 PM PDT by SgtHooper (This is not my tag!)
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To: posterchild

That doesn’t prove it was her only her phone. Ask the judge if he wants to sign off on each instance personally.


45 posted on 06/04/2014 3:08:32 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: nickcarraway

Lefty campus authoritarians apparently havet yet realized that this will require a photo ID.

Can’t have that. It’s racist, you know.


46 posted on 06/04/2014 3:10:16 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: posterchild
This will just push undocumented sex further into the shadows.

Hee-hee...

Now that abortion is out of the back alley and into the mainstream, college sex will go out of the mainstream and into the back alleys?

-PJ

47 posted on 06/04/2014 3:11:42 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Sacajaweau

How about verbal and written permission to commit crimes? That would work really well? How about written permission to use a gun? Dumb.


48 posted on 06/04/2014 3:12:45 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: nickcarraway
Meat Loaf..."Paradise By The Dashboard Lights"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f80DiqRJjog&sns=sms

49 posted on 06/04/2014 3:31:29 PM PDT by moovova
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To: Tallguy

Funny point.

Yet thus ludicrous law may actually decrease such activity, though not its goal, which would be a step in the right direction.


50 posted on 06/04/2014 3:47:39 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: 2big2fail
How the Hell would one prove that they DIDN’T give verbal permission? This does nothing....still “he said she said.” Absurd.

You are still operating under the quaint early American notion of "innocent until proven guilty". On college campuses, that silly remnant of the patriarchal white society has been abolished! Now, all it takes in the accusation by a coed for the male (usually white) student to be publicly branded a sex offender, forced to take sensitivity training, be expelled or even turned over for prosecution. (Of course, that last is to be avoided if possible, because we have not yet been able remove the presumption of innocence from some of those archaic courts that still follow the Constitution - another document written by white male slaveowners...)

51 posted on 06/04/2014 3:49:27 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Totally enforceable.

It will be, you had sex with her, you have no document that proves her acquiescence.

It therefore was rape, you go to jail.

Ha ha.


52 posted on 06/04/2014 3:50:16 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: Political Junkie Too; Migraine

Such a horrible song. But somehow classic.

The part you guys quote was somewhat dated and quaint even at the time it was made.


53 posted on 06/04/2014 3:52:18 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan
It will be, you had sex with her, you have no document that proves her acquiescence.

She'll have to prove she has a vagina the way things have been going. "You got a license for that?"

54 posted on 06/04/2014 3:52:34 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Bratch
Nawww... But I bet some smart kid will make an app for it.

"Press yes on my phone baby"!!!!!!!

55 posted on 06/04/2014 3:55:26 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Gosh.

I don’t want to go there, but the alternative is not a problem for them to address either.

Doesn’t matter where they collect the sample from for DNA testing.


56 posted on 06/04/2014 3:57:40 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: nickcarraway

Sounds like the RELIGIOUS ZEALOTS are at it again, getting into the bedrooms of consenting adults.

...and I thought California was run by Democrats?>


57 posted on 06/04/2014 3:57:45 PM PDT by BobL
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To: holden

Imagine, if you will, falsified paper and ink memorials for deeds that never occurred.


58 posted on 06/04/2014 4:03:41 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: nickcarraway

Well boys and girls, we have come almost full ridiculous circle, because written consent before sex used to also be required, back in the dark ages before the sexual revolution....it was called marriage! But what do I know? I’m just an old fuddy duddy!


59 posted on 06/04/2014 4:31:15 PM PDT by Red Boots
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To: Cboldt

When the lawyers get involved, the list of disclaimers on the consent form will be longer than those found on a new stepladder.


60 posted on 06/04/2014 4:33:05 PM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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