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MiG 29K naval combat aircraft suffers damage on INS Vikramaditya (India)
Press Trust of India ^ | 5 Jun, 2014

Posted on 06/05/2014 7:52:37 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

NEW DELHI: A MiG 29K naval combat aircraft has suffered damage while landing on the aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya during operations in Arabian Sea off the coast of Goa, a Navy official said today.

The Russian-origin aircraft had taken off from the Naval airbase INS Hansa in Goa yesterday and was landing on the aircraft when it carried out a 'hard-landing' causing damage to the nose-wheel undercarriage, the official said.

The pilot of the aircraft is safe and the further details of the damage are being assessed, they said.

The Navy has ordered a Board of Inquiry (BoI) into the incident on the aircraft carrier procured from Russia at a cost of over Rs 15,000 crore late last year.

In this incident onboard the 44,500 tonne warship, the pilot missed the first two arrester wires used as aid by the pilot for landing on the carrier and while he was trying to take off again, it got stuck in the third arrester wire causing a hard-landing, Navy officials said.

MiG 29Ks have been procured by India from Russia and India is the only country in the world which operates these twin engine naval fighters.

India has ordered for 45 of these aircraft and this is the first accident involving these aircraft.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: aerospace; india; mig29k; russia

1 posted on 06/05/2014 7:52:37 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
In this incident onboard the 44,500 tonne warship, the pilot missed the first two arrester wires used as aid by the pilot for landing on the carrier and while he was trying to take off again, it got stuck in the third arrester wire causing a hard-landing, Navy officials said.

OK.

2 posted on 06/05/2014 7:57:09 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: aposiopetic

just drat.... hate it when that happens


3 posted on 06/05/2014 8:03:52 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Don't they call that a sky hook or similar when the plane gets snagged while barely airborne and slammed back to the deck? Maybe he tried for the go around a bit too soon before the last wire?

That MiG looks to be carrying a couple of cruise missiles with under fuselage intakes. Dunno what the big centerline package is.

4 posted on 06/05/2014 8:18:43 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Was McCain the pilot?


5 posted on 06/05/2014 8:25:18 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: doorgunner69

Those are some big air intakes. I wonder what it looks like on radar.


6 posted on 06/05/2014 8:32:45 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Something tells me that pilot’s fighter career is over. If he’s lucky, they’ll still let him fly something less difficult.


7 posted on 06/05/2014 8:41:30 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: doorgunner69

Fuel tank. You will have no range without it.


8 posted on 06/05/2014 8:47:34 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Little Pig
.... pilot’s fighter career is over....

No way. These guys are quite new at this. Gonna be some f-ups. He's also, please note, still alive. We also don't know how well this Russki puppy flies in the carrier role, to which it was adapted .... not designed.

This ain't that easy. We've lost two in two days. Part of the game.

9 posted on 06/05/2014 8:47:42 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( A disbarred gay Muslim lawyer from Kenya as POTUS? Sure! What could go wrong?)
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To: Kenny Bunk

I think those 2 reports were the same plane, Harrier.... unless there was another one.


10 posted on 06/05/2014 8:51:15 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: doorgunner69
Dunno what the big centerline package is.

Could be a standardized pod for various payloads - from an extra fuel tank to a SIGINT/ELINT machinery. Wikipedia explains:

The types of combat missions undertaken by the MiG-29K can be increased by adding optronic/infrared imaging reconnaissance pods.

11 posted on 06/05/2014 8:56:19 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: BenLurkin
Yep, big, probably about like an F-15 or F-18 Super Hornet. No hiding at max radar range.

The Russians are masters at A-A ECM, they know we have excellent BVR capability. Like their efforts against carriers, instead of trying to compete directly, they go for the less expensive counter.

Some years back, their jamming pods completely blinded our F-15s in a joint exercise against the Indians, taking away the BVR advantage of the F-15 and forcing the merge. Was said the F-15s were not latest top level capability radar, but still.

I would hope the F-22 can illuminate the adversary and ID/track without them knowing they are in the area and trying to jam. Might get off the BVR shot that way.

LPI radar and stealth have to be making A-A very interesting.

12 posted on 06/05/2014 8:57:29 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: doorgunner69

Interesting.

I don’t understand much of it — but I think I get the general idea.


13 posted on 06/05/2014 8:58:30 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

“Fuel tank.”

You’d think they could have done something a bit more conformal? Maybe the Russians did not want to sell that part of the airplane.


14 posted on 06/05/2014 9:00:04 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: GeronL
I think those 2 reports were the same plane, Harrier.... unless there was another one.

Two different incidents:

(CNN) -- A U.S. Navy fighter jet crashed into the water off Southern California while approaching an aircraft carrier Wednesday night, the Navy said.

The pilot of the F/A-18E Super Hornet ejected, was recovered and is in stable condition aboard the USS Carl Vinson, the Navy said Thursday. The aviator is expected to make a full recovery.

The crash happened hours after a separate military plane went down in California: the nonfatal crash of one of the Marines' AV-8B Harriers into a neighborhood in Imperial.


15 posted on 06/05/2014 9:00:54 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: Greysard

Oh, thanks

There were confused that a second Harrier had crashed somewhere


16 posted on 06/05/2014 9:01:49 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

These things happen.


17 posted on 06/05/2014 9:14:45 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Carrier ops are very complex. No chance India or China are going to be able to master it for at least a few decades.


18 posted on 06/05/2014 9:57:08 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Kenny Bunk

Granted that the Vikramaditya is new to the fleet, but India has other carriers, and has had them for years. Their pilots aren’t new to carrier landings, just to landing on this particular ship.

And the Mig-29K is a purpose-built aircraft variant, not an adaptation, and has been in service in India since 2004. The 29K was actually designed for the other Kiev-based carrier variant (The Kuznetsov), but India’s were part of the deal that got them the Vikramaditya, so are intended to be used with this ship.


19 posted on 06/05/2014 10:09:07 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: SeaHawkFan

From the Wikipedia:

The Indian Navy has been operating carrier battle groups since 1961, with its first carrier battle group formed around the now decommissioned INS Vikrant.

Indian pilots already know carrier landings.


20 posted on 06/05/2014 10:11:46 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Little Pig

INS Vikrant will be commissioned in 2016 or 2017 (a new ship with a name like an one?)

They also got a former Soviet Kiev-class ship in 2013 they call the INS Vikramaditya


21 posted on 06/05/2014 10:18:32 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Little Pig
The first Vikrant, about 1971


22 posted on 06/05/2014 10:20:23 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Little Pig

apparently they still have the INS Viraat which was laid down in 1944 as the HMA Hermes or something...

talk about an old ship.


23 posted on 06/05/2014 10:25:53 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: aposiopetic

Hmmmm. Sounds more like a late wave off to the inflight engagement.


24 posted on 06/05/2014 10:33:52 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: doorgunner69

Those weren’t Russian pods.....


25 posted on 06/05/2014 10:36:18 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: GeronL

Yes, there will be a new Vikrant. And this incident with the Mig29 happened on the Vikramaditya. They’re practicing carrier operations with it, since it’s new to the fleet.


26 posted on 06/05/2014 10:38:52 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: GeronL

Yup, and with the Vikrant already decommissioned, that’s why they’re really pressing to get their big new carrier into service as fast as possible. The Viraat is badly in need of retiring, but they don’t want to lose their flight operations capability entirely.


27 posted on 06/05/2014 10:40:18 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: USNBandit

According to who I worked for at the time, they were, but I will not repeat the NATO name for them or say more. I was in the business at the time.


28 posted on 06/05/2014 10:51:24 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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I thought they were Israeli pods...


29 posted on 06/05/2014 11:15:00 PM PDT by IndianChief
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To: IndianChief
This discussion is rapidly heading towards a loose lips issue.

Hey, look a Mig 29k had an inflight engagement! I saw film of an SU-27 variant do the huge pull-up on the wave off and barely miss and inflight. Bad news to adjust youn attitude like that. Much better to hit steel and take your bolter safely.

30 posted on 06/06/2014 5:47:04 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: GeronL
2.

Harrier crashed in Imperial.

F-18 crashed making a carrier landing. F-18 carrier ops suspended while they sort it out.

PS
A bad carrier landing is called a
McCain Landing

31 posted on 06/06/2014 7:16:39 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( A disbarred gay Muslim lawyer from Kenya as POTUS? Sure! What could go wrong?)
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To: Kenny Bunk

lol


32 posted on 06/06/2014 10:40:31 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Little Pig

I doubt any of the Sea Hawk pilots are still flying.


33 posted on 06/06/2014 10:48:04 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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