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Special forces say they are baffled, embarrassed by video of Bergdahl pickup; here’s why.
BizPac Review ^ | 06/07/14 | Joe Saunders

Posted on 06/09/2014 11:46:52 AM PDT by thetallguy24

Details in the Taliban-produced video that shows a U.S. Special Forces unit picking Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl from Taliban fighters in Afghanistan last week raise serious questions about the risks those Special Forces took on a supposedly dangerous mission into enemy territory.

Conservative talk show host Glenn Beck on Thursday described a conversation he had with a Special Forces source who said a number of things about the video don’t jibe with the training and tactics Special Forces units normally employ in a situation like the Bergdahl pickup.

“The guys I talked to … said, ‘what is happening here? This is so sloppy on our part,” Beck said. “How many rules were violated by us in this prisoner exchange?”

First, Beck said, his source told him that just the presence of a camera in a war zone at all would normally trigger a “shoot to kill” response. Insurgents use video of destroyed aircraft for propaganda purposes, the source said. That might mean the camera’s presence was approved beforehand. The source asked why the U.S. government would grant such approval.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; bergdahl; bergdahldeal; bergdahlswap; military; obama; specialforces; taliban; taliban5
The friendliness and the rushed pat down always struck me as odd. Everything was just too casual and nonchalant.
1 posted on 06/09/2014 11:46:52 AM PDT by thetallguy24
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To: thetallguy24

A CIA op using a 160th SOAR bird - my guess...


2 posted on 06/09/2014 11:49:55 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: thetallguy24

Maybe john kerry turned him over.


3 posted on 06/09/2014 11:50:52 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: thetallguy24

The Taliban were probably told straight up that the military had a couple of dozen of drones targeting the area, if anything went wrong.

I can’t see the military doing this without an ability to respond and retaliate against anybody who thinks they could sabotage this.


4 posted on 06/09/2014 11:52:47 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: thetallguy24
The whole point of the exchange and virtually nothing to do with Bergdahl and had everything to do with establishing trust with the Taliban and the terrorists of whatever name. Obama is seeking to negotiate a settlement in Afghanistan much like he has done in Iran which is no settlement at all but a propaganda fig leaf.

Obama had to demonstrate to the terrorists that it pays to deal with him.


5 posted on 06/09/2014 11:53:30 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: thetallguy24

The pat down was way to close to the chopper.


6 posted on 06/09/2014 11:54:26 AM PDT by McGruff (What if I told you your leaders were lying to you?)
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To: thetallguy24

The video is there simply because this was a political op. Because they thought this was a big political win for them they allowed the video so the Obama admin. would have pictures to go with all the glowing accolades they expected.

This goes to show how deeply, deeply out of touch the Obama administration is. How utterly devoid of American values this guy is.


7 posted on 06/09/2014 11:56:34 AM PDT by Obadiah (None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: thetallguy24; neverdem; SunkenCiv; Nachum

So the “former” Taliban Muslim (with a newly-cut-off beard, now trimmed, now fully shaved, completely washed off, hair now cut/shaved off!) is all innocently cleaned up for Obama’s TV cameras, isn’t he?


8 posted on 06/09/2014 11:56:56 AM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: thetallguy24

9 posted on 06/09/2014 12:01:00 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: nathanbedford
Recall that in March of this year, the vice President of Afghanistan, Mohammed Fahim died of a heart attack. He was a staunch opponent of the Taliban and a leader of the North Alliance back in 2001. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Fahim
10 posted on 06/09/2014 12:01:02 PM PDT by CMB_polarization
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To: nathanbedford
I still believe that Obama’s arrival in Afghanistan was the signal to the Taliban that he was in control.

Whether his bagmen dropped out duffel bags containing cash or other desirables while he was there, that trip is somehow connected to the exchange.

The Taliban knew that we were not aching to get this guy back; we had plenty of opportunities.

This video really makes it seem staged to me, more so than before.

11 posted on 06/09/2014 12:09:37 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: thetallguy24

The whole Berghdahl thing was a mask for something ELSE and of course, that something ELSE means money changed hands.

It was all to pat and stage managed to be just what it they tried to make it appear...


12 posted on 06/09/2014 12:12:39 PM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: Dog

Ping


13 posted on 06/09/2014 12:14:36 PM PDT by Cap Huff
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To: thetallguy24

It was probably scripted in Hollywood and made in the Utah desert.


14 posted on 06/09/2014 12:17:53 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Jonty30
"The Taliban were probably told straight up that the military had a couple of dozen of drones targeting the area."

In the video, an Apache can be seen overhead, only shown for a moment. There were undoubtedly other assets in the area.

15 posted on 06/09/2014 12:19:58 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: TADSLOS

Bingo. CIA types ain’t exactly known for their rigid discipline in such situations. Also, given the fact the military kept advising against the swap (and wouldn’t risk SPECOPS assets on a deserter) they might not’ve been in the loop in the first place.


16 posted on 06/09/2014 12:21:51 PM PDT by afsnco
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To: Jonty30
I can’t see the military doing this without an ability to respond and retaliate against anybody who thinks they could sabotage this.

An ABC report showed a Vet describing the scene. He said the Americans shook hands with straight arms (no bend at the elbows), meaning they had hidden weapons under their sleeves. That made me wonder why a U.S. vet would give away such tactical info. Liberals . . .

17 posted on 06/09/2014 12:32:37 PM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: sauropod

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18 posted on 06/09/2014 12:33:32 PM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: thetallguy24

They even make him take off like we do when we go through airport security.

And why couldn’t we carry guns like the terrorists did? Was this a suicide mission? Or just to show that Obama really believes in appeasement through capitulation?


19 posted on 06/09/2014 12:43:32 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: lulu16

I meant to say take of his SHOES...


20 posted on 06/09/2014 12:44:54 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: thetallguy24

Didn’t they let him carry on two plastic bags without checking what was in them.


21 posted on 06/09/2014 12:47:05 PM PDT by windcliff
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To: lulu16

This is was why the CIA station chief was outed, after 30 years in A-stan....he was there when the Soviets were there and knew EVERY dialect, tribe, nook, and crany of the place. Now he and his wife, has been emergency extracted back to VA where they will live in fear for the rest of their lives.


22 posted on 06/09/2014 12:50:30 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!! (Keeper of the Sick Individuals pinglist))
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To: Obadiah
Seeing is believing.

It's always about the video/photo!

BenGhazi. Loretta Fuddy, Bin Laden, Backstabbin Bird Dog.

Just in case you don't believe them. It's on video or in pictures. Nuyahhhhhhhh


We are dealing with petty childish liars, that have been caught numerous times and know they need an alibi.

23 posted on 06/09/2014 12:54:05 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: thetallguy24

They should have tagged the released ones so we can track them and this scumbag should have accidently fallen out of the chopper on the way back.


24 posted on 06/09/2014 1:01:12 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: DCBryan1

Thank-you for putting the piece in the puzzle. Obama has this impulse to extract anyone who has the ability to hold the line against extremists. I wish the CIA station chief God’s speed.


25 posted on 06/09/2014 1:05:11 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: texas booster

I think this goes back to benghazi. Those people were supposed to be kidnapped to be traded and when that went south this was plan B. Either way the kenyan was going to give back his brothers.


26 posted on 06/09/2014 1:08:32 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: thetallguy24

I’m surprised that Annie Liebowitz wasn’t hired to shoot everything at the proper angle, the proper lighting, the void area to the side, so that Zer0’s photo could be photoshopped into the picture for the textbooks of the 2020’s.

Dear Leader’s legacy, donchaknow!


27 posted on 06/09/2014 1:19:19 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: nathanbedford

It is my belief that he will become the leading voice of Islam in America. He will talk of peace and the media will paint him as a hero, possibly a prophet.

He has probably spent the past 5 years studying Islam and my worse fear would be that the CIA has been training him.


28 posted on 06/09/2014 1:30:51 PM PDT by winodog
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To: thetallguy24
THESE WERE NOT SPECIAL FORCES. I don't think 'special forces' would even agree to fly into a trap such as this.

Would American special forces wait to pat down Bergdahl within 25 feet of the helicopter?? HELLLLLLLL NOOOOOO THEY WOULDN'T?

This was NOT special forces. These were probably U.N. operatives of the NWO cabal of whom Obamadullah is an employee. I don't think ANYONE in this video was part of our military. Maybe the new 'Post-coup military' but not the regular military or special forces.

29 posted on 06/09/2014 1:32:57 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: thetallguy24

Let’s face it........Obama let the Taliban have total sway for their PR campaign!!! Why? Simple....Obama is one, with them!!! The American Satan, Obama at work, continuing to take down America, and our military!!!


30 posted on 06/09/2014 1:47:06 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!.)
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To: McGruff

Saw the pat down when first taking possession of the traitor, it was quick and discreet, but it did happen.


31 posted on 06/09/2014 1:57:53 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: texas booster

“Whether his bagmen dropped out duffel bags containing cash or other desirables “

“If anything goes wrong, you don’t get the money. Understand?”


32 posted on 06/09/2014 2:28:28 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: TADSLOS

All your terrorist prisoners are belong to us.


33 posted on 06/09/2014 3:45:58 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: texas booster

Is it possible these were not SEALs but State Department security personnel?


34 posted on 06/09/2014 3:46:55 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Jonty30
The Taliban knew they had such a great deal. If some young taliban had started to raise a fuss - taliban leaders would have shot him.

Think of it this way - if someone offered you 50 million dollars for the old rusted bike you have in the garage that you haven't gotten around to throwing out yet, WOULD YOU GIVE THE PERSON a hard time when they came with the cash? I'll bet they're still laughing about how stupid we are...

35 posted on 06/09/2014 3:47:56 PM PDT by GOPJ (#2 reply spot RESERVED for Tokyo Rose comments: "nothing works - give up - it's all hopeless".)
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To: GOPJ

Oh come on, if word got out about the deal the taliban would have killed him! /s


36 posted on 06/09/2014 4:15:08 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: elpadre
I think you are on the right path.

Not that SEALS wouldn't obey their commander, but that the C0C would not put such a sensitive operation at the risk of military professionals.

Some folks have guessed CIA, but I think that State Ops is a better bet.

Or maybe they borrowed someone from BATF or Interior.

37 posted on 06/09/2014 7:40:03 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: longfellow
"I think this goes back to benghazi. Those people were supposed to be kidnapped to be traded and when that went south this was plan B. Either way the kenyan was going to give back his brothers."

I agree. I thought Benghazi was supposed to be a kidnapping I just didn't know why. Now I think I do. They get their scum leaders back, loads of weapons, and cash.

O gets closer to closing Gitmo and has armed and funded our enemies.

He probably also thought it would help his reelection campaign to negotiate the release of those kidnapped.

38 posted on 06/09/2014 7:56:47 PM PDT by Amntn
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To: thetallguy24

Beck is a absolute moron. Why am I not surprised he has a moron, anonymous guest. Or beck is probably lying.


39 posted on 06/09/2014 8:10:53 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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