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Loretta Fuddy's Brother Sues Over Fatal Crash
Star Advertiser ^ | Jun 09, 2014

Posted on 06/09/2014 2:13:52 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: trisham

“would she have died on that day?”

IMO, I doubt it. The engine failure combined with a crash landing in the water was probably enough to practically scare her to death. People die from heart attacks during earthquakes and tornadoes even thought they were not physically hurt by either.


41 posted on 06/09/2014 5:37:30 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

Exactly, but a case might be made for that very reason, and a jury might find it compelling. We shall see.


42 posted on 06/09/2014 5:41:26 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

I agree, but I would be surprised if a jury ever sees it. The brother will probably get an out of court settlement.


43 posted on 06/09/2014 5:53:11 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

That’s very possible.


44 posted on 06/09/2014 5:54:08 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: justlurking

Here are several, all Cessna Caravans 208,

Findings
1. COMPRESSOR ASSEMBLY,BLADE - SEPARATION

http://dms.ntsb.gov/aviation/AccidentReports/k141bvqpenseyp55gdquf2451/D06092014120000.pdf

The engine examination revealed a failure of the engine gas generator initiating from a compressor turbine blade separation.

http://dms.ntsb.gov/aviation/AccidentReports/3buwiomwi2xskcnbwhjolj451/C06092014120000.pdf

The engine examination revealed mechanical and thermal damage to the turbine section of the engine.

http://dms.ntsb.gov/aviation/AccidentReports/d2mpws45bbtlil45zymgst451/M06092014120000.pdf

...revealed that a blade on the first stage compressor rotor failed as a result of a fatigue fracture.

http://dms.ntsb.gov/aviation/AccidentReports/mk5qwrrv2qz4h0ymurnt5beg1/J06092014120000.pdf


45 posted on 06/09/2014 6:41:38 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: Fantasywriter

If so, VERY suspicious........


46 posted on 06/09/2014 7:37:33 PM PDT by Arlis
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To: 50mm; humblegunner
"Fuddy was attacked by water moles."

What are their FReeper names?

47 posted on 06/09/2014 7:55:11 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: humblegunner
What do YOU see?
I see that you like to belittle conservative patriots whose opinions differ from your own. I see that you are inexplicably immune to the no-personal-attacks rule on Free Republic. Your post sarcastically belittles an extremely decent, dedicated and conservative person who has not even posted to this thread (at least as far as I have read, which is your message to which I am replying).

Are you the least bit ashamed of your (in my opinion) cruel, caddish behavior?

48 posted on 06/09/2014 10:12:00 PM PDT by elengr (Benghazi betrayal: rescue denied - our guys DIED - treason's the reason obama s/b tried then fried!)
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To: Servant of the Cross

If the Fuddys would only join with the Duddys


49 posted on 06/09/2014 10:16:30 PM PDT by woofie
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To: Ray76

There are no enzymes specific to a rhythm problem. It would be the diagnosis I would go with if there was nothing else found. It would be more likely if she had a history of rhythm problems in the past.


50 posted on 06/09/2014 10:22:45 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: elengr
Are you the least bit ashamed of your (in my opinion) cruel, caddish behavior?

No.

And put down the can.


51 posted on 06/10/2014 3:41:41 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: 50mm; humblegunner
"Says the guy who doesn't believe in fluoride-laced zombifying chemtrails."

They are not laced with flouride.

They contain micro particles of aluminum sillicates (those being similar to silicates, but much more silly.)

The aluminum us causing brain lesions and early onset Altzheimer's variations that include but are not limited to visions of water moles and other aquatic denizens of deep cover espionage and spy stuff.

52 posted on 06/10/2014 5:23:42 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: shibumi; 50mm
You are overlooking the obvious.


53 posted on 06/10/2014 5:29:04 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: shibumi
What are their FReeper names?

Guaca and Wacka.

54 posted on 06/10/2014 8:55:20 AM PDT by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: shibumi
The aluminum us causing brain lesions and early onset Altzheimer's variations that include but are not limited to visions of water moles and other aquatic denizens of deep cover espionage and spy stuff.

Makes sense.

55 posted on 06/10/2014 9:00:03 AM PDT by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: humblegunner; shibumi

Sylphs are an Indian plot to divert attention from the proliferation of tax-exempt casinos.


56 posted on 06/10/2014 9:07:54 AM PDT by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: Mom MD

Postmortem diagnosis in sudden cardiac death victims: macroscopic, microscopic and molecular findings

ntroduction

When sudden death (SD) occurs in adults and elderly persons, coronary atherosclerosis is the usual cause. On the contrary, a large spectrum of cardiovascular diseases, both congenital and acquired, may account for SD in the young. These diseases are frequently concealed and discovered with surprise only at postmortem by means of a thorough macroscopic and microscopic investigation. This review will address the spectrum of structural substrates of cardiac SD with particular emphasis given to the possible role of molecular biology techniques in identifying subtle or even merely functional disorders accounting for electrical instability.

Epidemiology, pathophysiology and substrates of cardiac SD

SD is defined as a natural, unexpected fatal event occurring within 1 hour of the beginning of symptoms, in an apparently healthy subject or one whose disease was not so severe enough as to predict such an abrupt outcome. In the USA, the annual incidence of SD in people aged 35–74 years is 191/100 000 in men and 57/100 000 in women; almost half of all SDs occur in people with known coronary artery disease ... [excerpt]


57 posted on 06/10/2014 2:22:42 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: Nero Germanicus

Not sure what your point is. sudden death is well described. It remains, however, a diagnosis of exclusion


58 posted on 06/10/2014 6:08:50 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: elengr

Sarcasm without real content can’t really belittle another person. Ad hominems are a hostile admission when a person has nothing of value to contribute to the analysis. As long as everybody realizes that, we can just ignore the juveniles in the room.

The fact that certain people feel they need to gravitate to certain threads in order to pre-empt any earnest conversation speaks volumes. I recently learned that in an earnest environment “average joes” give the evidence a fair shake. That’s what some people fear. I can’t help but wonder why they fear that.

I’m sad for the desperation that seems to drive them.

And I’m thankful for those who see it for what it is. Lucy in “The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe” was ridiculed by Edmund - who knew she was right - when she told about Narnia in the wardrobe. Peter didn’t know who was right but knew that even if Lucy was mistaken, Edmund was being a jerk about it. Eventually Lucy was vindicated.

I will be vindicated eventually. In the meantime, I appreciate those who, like Peter, don’t necessarily know what to think, or maybe even think I’m wrong, but know that ridicule doesn’t help anybody. Thanks for being that kind of person.


59 posted on 06/11/2014 5:58:48 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: technically right

There was no loud bang on the video, and the passengers were videotaped acting normally without a care in the world until the stall warning sounded - which would have had to be after the alleged loud bang, the engine stopping, and fairly rapid descent (which Puentes didn’t seem interested in at all until after the stall warning, even though his purpose for having the 2 GoPros and waterproof microphone with him was allegedly to get footage of the flight/takeoff). If there was a loud bang before all that, the passengers were acting quite nonchalantly on the video, with Rosa Key acting surprised and touching her husband’s shoulder across the aisle only when the stall warning sounded...

The claim of a loud bang is the only detail from eyewitnesses that suggests there was anything necessarily wrong with the engine (as opposed to the “engine failure” being faked), and the claim doesn’t necessarily fit with the video.

Given that there are about 10 identifiable extra people in the water in the minutes after the crash as videotaped by Puentes, with what appears to be equipment such as masks, goggles, rebreather, and tanks, the “crash” seems to have been planned. And since the eyewitnesses in the video were in at least one instance actually holding onto one of the extra people and yet said nothing about it to anybody, those eyewitnesses presumably knew the crash was planned and went along with it as if the official story of nobody else being there until help arrived about an hour later is really what happened, so those eyewitness accounts are suspect.

The Hawaii government is doing everything in their power to keep from giving me copies of the transcripts of the sworn witness statements, which are required by law and are public records. The “lost in the mail” excuse is wearing mighty thin about right now... And the records I’ve received so far are a big mess of contradictions - substantial contradictions on every major point of the official narrative. As I’ve noted elsewhere, one fatality was reported in the media 14 minutes before the helo that supposedly lifted Fuddy from the water even arrived on-scene. And there are also a bunch more problems with all the public accounts and official reports received thus far.

The FAA won’t give the maintenance logs but the owner said their maintenance exceeded the legal requirements, and the aircraft was certified to fly with the number of hours on this engine, though it was due for an engine overhaul before too long. That certification was based on recommendations coming from a history in which the NTSB had only investigated 2 commercial Cessna 208Bs’ engine failures in over 30 years, with no fatalities. While turbine blades can and do break off, as of the time of this crash the NTSB had never found it to happen with this engine in over 30 years’ worth of engines that received the maintenance required for commercial aircraft. This “engine failure” was the 2nd of 2 commercial Cessna 208B engine failures within 50 days and 25 miles of each other. The first occurred 3 days after Doug Vogt named Loretta Fuddy in a criminal fraud complaint.

The wolves will soon be here and I don’t have time to be slowed down by them so I probably won’t stick around but you seem to be a reasonable person so I thought I’d respond. Feel free to freepmail me if you have questions or comments.


60 posted on 06/11/2014 6:52:26 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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