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Bundy's son: (Las Vegas) Cop killers kicked off ranch
AP ^ | 9 Jun 14 | MICHELLE RINDELS and MARTIN GRIFFITH

Posted on 06/09/2014 6:01:59 PM PDT by xzins

Jerad and Amanda Miller had been kicked off a Nevada ranch where anti-government protesters faced down federal agents earlier this year because they were "very radical," according to the son of rancher Cliven Bundy.

Ammon Bundy, one of Cliven Bundy's sons, said by telephone that the Millers were at his father's ranch for a few days this spring before they were asked to leave by militia members for unspecified "conduct" problems. He called the couple "very radical" and said they "did not align themselves" with the beliefs of other protesters, who thwarted a roundup of Cliven Bundy's cattle by the U.S. Bureau of Land Management, which wants to collect more than $1 million in grazing fees and penalties.

While thousands of people have been to the site over the last couple of months, "Not very many people were asked to leave. I think they may have been the only ones," Ammon Bundy said.

On Sunday, the two Las Vegas police officers were having lunch at a pizza buffet in an aging strip mall about 5 miles northeast of the Las Vegas Strip when the Millers fatally shot them. The attack at a CiCi's Pizza killed officers Alyn Beck, 41, and Igor Soldo, 31, both of whom were husbands and fathers.

Ammon Bundy said supporters of his father are saddened by the killings and "have had no quarrel" with Las Vegas police.

"The only thing worse than (government) tyranny is anarchy," he said. "And we certainly recognize that."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: bundy

1 posted on 06/09/2014 6:01:59 PM PDT by xzins
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To: All; Jim Robinson

No doubt the media will misrepresent this.


2 posted on 06/09/2014 6:02:45 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

The problem with big-government liberals is they only see two things: fascism and anarchy, with nothing in between. So they choose fascism (by any other name).


3 posted on 06/09/2014 6:04:18 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: xzins

Cliven attracted these nut jobs like flies to poop. Heck, they even moved to be closer to him. When Cliven got tired of them he simply kicked the poop pie known as the Bundy Ranch. He still has blood on his hands.


4 posted on 06/09/2014 6:10:09 PM PDT by redreno (Americans don't go Gault. Americans go Postal.)
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To: redreno; Jim Robinson

You obviously didn’t follow the Bundy ranch event. I generally don’t allow the media to do my thinking for me.


5 posted on 06/09/2014 6:11:52 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins; GeronL

“Police said they believe the swastika was intended to paint police as Nazis, not necessarily as an expression of the Millers’ own white-supremacist views.”

So they are neo-nazis who see the police as Nazis because they are down on Nazis.

That doesn’t make any sense.


6 posted on 06/09/2014 6:12:01 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: a fool in paradise; GeronL
So they are neo-nazis who see the police as Nazis because they are down on Nazis. That doesn’t make any sense.

Great catch, a fool in paradise.

Unraveling the media's nonsense is a full time job.

7 posted on 06/09/2014 6:14:48 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: redreno

The “tea party” rallies also drew liberal democrat activists who sought to paint the movement as racists and dimwitted by holding up offensive signs and deliberately misspelled signs.

Funny thing is the media was stone silent about the Communist literature, Communist banners, Communist flags, etc at the so-called “anti-war rallies” during the Bush administration and at the Occupy Wall Street gatherings.

neo-Commies and neo-Nazis are both repugnant. The media is trying to paint “guilt by association”. They don’t do that with muslims or leftist rampage killers.


8 posted on 06/09/2014 6:15:14 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: xzins

According to the R-J, the couple told neighbors that morning they were going to “murder cops.” But nobody called the police.
http://tinyurl.com/k9nclo5


9 posted on 06/09/2014 6:17:28 PM PDT by wtd
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To: redreno
Cliven attracted these nut jobs like flies to poop

So does government, politics, teaching, and law enforcement.

What's your real point?

10 posted on 06/09/2014 6:24:19 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: wtd

Neighbors probably already had the habit of ignoring stupid.


11 posted on 06/09/2014 6:26:49 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: redreno

I would suggest that you fully educate yourself concerning the Bundy history and Senator Harry Reid...


12 posted on 06/09/2014 6:33:34 PM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: redreno

You’re just lying out an orifice.


13 posted on 06/09/2014 6:36:27 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: xzins; redreno

You’re trying to reason with someone whose tagline seems to advocate violence, misspells Galt, and believes a man has blood on his hands for kicking a couple of psychos off his land. Just sayin’.


14 posted on 06/09/2014 6:38:24 PM PDT by lonevoice (Life is short. Make fun of it.)
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To: redreno; xzins

Why don’t you just tell us all you think Bundy is responsible for the officers deaths, that’s what you’re implying.


15 posted on 06/09/2014 6:43:17 PM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: xzins

It does make me wonder how the government chooses their dangerous extremists.

The feds spent millions of dollars and many months setting up the Hutaree for a raid with tactical assault vehicles, choppers and hundreds of federal and state agents. Then millions more tax dollars were spent keeping the Hutaree in jail and trying the case only to end in acquittals for all.

The judge determined that the hutaree weren’t the threat the feds claimed them to be and their “threat” to kill police was one drawn out of them as a possible outcome of an imaginary scenario that the feds created that would leave no other option but to kill cops. The feds also provided a false transcript of the conversation that didn’t match the recorded version.


16 posted on 06/09/2014 6:44:00 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: redreno
Cliven attracted these nut jobs like flies to poop. Heck, they even moved to be closer to him. When Cliven got tired of them he simply kicked the poop pie known as the Bundy Ranch. He still has blood on his hands.

Do you smell ozone?
17 posted on 06/09/2014 6:44:48 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: PA Engineer

This has sure buried Bergdahl..


18 posted on 06/09/2014 6:45:55 PM PDT by Therapsid
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To: redreno

Is that you, Rory?


19 posted on 06/09/2014 6:45:59 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: lonevoice

I agree with you. Discussions with those who don’t pay attention are generally one-side. They don’t really even know what’s happening.

There was a sorta black newsbabe who said that NBA players under contract for millions was worse than plantation slavery.

Bundy said the big government handouts stealing folks’ initiative and locking them into a life of dependency might be similar to plantation slavery.

Which was a dumber statement? Which got called a racist?


20 posted on 06/09/2014 6:48:29 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

How are they registered as voters?


21 posted on 06/09/2014 6:49:44 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (Immigration without assimilation is the death of a nation)
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To: xzins

Of course the media and the government will, the genie is out of the propaganda bottle...

The government is the victim now.../sarc


22 posted on 06/09/2014 6:50:45 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: xzins
"No doubt the media will misrepresent this."

hey,... that's their Job in this currently topsy turvy world.

One can with a good deal of certainty read the "mass" media..and understand whats going on by reversing all of their "fact"s and "opnions".
23 posted on 06/09/2014 6:50:53 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: redreno
feh...
24 posted on 06/09/2014 7:23:55 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: a fool in paradise

Just remember, the MSM is in the ‘blame republicans’ business NOT the news business.


25 posted on 06/09/2014 7:28:02 PM PDT by Bullish (You ever notice that liberalism really just amounts to anti-morality?)
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To: PA Engineer
There does seem to be a tinge of sulfur in the air.

Meow

26 posted on 06/09/2014 7:34:06 PM PDT by Bullish (You ever notice that liberalism really just amounts to anti-morality?)
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To: dragnet2

Oh, you know what the real point is. Crystal clear, that one is.


27 posted on 06/09/2014 7:34:59 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: xzins

That’s why I thought for a second about posting something back at that coward, but I just thought it better to reinforce the obvious, and agree with most of the participants here, that there is still a ton of things left unanswered on this incident...

And what’s sad...

Is we will probably not hear the complete truth in any way, shape or form...From just about any news source...

We see idiots like this come and go here...

Water under the bridge, muh man...

[thumbs up!!!]


28 posted on 06/09/2014 7:38:41 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: redreno

These two never even got on the Bundy property:

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2014/06/the-las-vegas-shooters-and-bundys.html

“If the media wishes to make the ‘Bundy connection’ with that set of facts, they are simply parroting a regime narrative absent reality. “


29 posted on 06/09/2014 7:50:12 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: redreno

By the way ... whose blood is on his hands?


30 posted on 06/09/2014 7:51:16 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: a fool in paradise

lol. exactly


31 posted on 06/09/2014 7:51:18 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: lonevoice

There’s no evidence the psychos were ever even on Bundy’s land.


32 posted on 06/09/2014 7:53:20 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: redreno

TROLL ALERT!

33 posted on 06/09/2014 7:59:54 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: xzins
My spouse happened to have the Anderson Cooper show on. I usually tune this kind of offering out. I did see the byline, which drew the Cliven Bundy Ranch into the senseless tragedy. His guest was one Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center. I noticed another guest with an intensely pained look on his face.

Classic liberal smear in action here. Guilt by association. They do not miss a chance. On and on they went drawing a picture of the extreme right and it's menace.

I would like to see Potok and Cooper stroll unannounced in Chicago. This down Jackson on the South Side of Chicago at night. They might get a surprise.

34 posted on 06/09/2014 9:08:19 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: xzins

Wow. Good thing they were kicked out. Reminds me of when the Michigan Militia reported they kicked out McVeigh because he was too violent. Disagree with their assessment of anarchy though. It will be much worse then tyranny.


35 posted on 06/09/2014 9:41:35 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

The “false choice fallacy” is a hallmark of leftist thinking. Start to look for it in any article or “argument” or “rebuttal”.


36 posted on 06/10/2014 6:36:11 AM PDT by jiggyboy
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To: xzins
No doubt the media will misrepresent this.

And some Freepers will think we conservatives need to change our behavior.

37 posted on 06/10/2014 6:42:06 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: xzins

Justice Department reconstitutes domestic terror task force
By Kevin Daley | June 9, 2014 | 6:36 pm

Topics: Beltway Confidential Eric Holder Terrorism Attorney
Attorney General Eric Holder announced the Justice Department will reestablish a Clinton-era committee tasked with sharing and assessing domestic terror threats just days before a Las Vegas-area shooting spree left five dead.

The Domestic Terrorism Executive Committee was first convened in 1995 by Attorney General Janet Reno, in the aftermath of the Oklahoma City bombing. Holder said the Justice Department’s anti-terrorism focus shifted abroad after 9/11, but insisted threats posed by al Qaeda are now diminished thanks to President Obama’s “strong and effective anti-terror efforts.
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“But we must also concern ourselves with the continued danger we face from individuals within our own borders,” Holder continued. He restricted his definition of extremist groups to the far right, defining domestic terrorists as those “motivated by a variety of other causes from anti-government animus to racial prejudice.”

http://washingtonexaminer.com/justice-department-reconstitutes-domestic-terror-task-force/article/2549505


38 posted on 06/10/2014 7:03:35 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

We MUST get socialists out of power. Period.


39 posted on 06/10/2014 7:29:11 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: justa-hairyape
Disagree with their assessment of anarchy though. It will be much worse then tyranny.

To me they pretty much boil down to the same thing. Strong people with power forcing their will on others through threats.

40 posted on 06/10/2014 7:31:01 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

At least with a tyranny, some group of people get protected. With anarchy, it is everyone for themselves. And DC should not be surprised that when the government itself ignores the laws, a lot of other people will also start ignoring them. If full anarchy broke out, they could not even count the number of dead police officers each day or for that matter the number of dead citizens.


41 posted on 06/10/2014 10:20:46 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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