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Did al-Qaida Win the Iraq War?
Townhall.com ^ | June 11, 2014 | Terry Jeffrey

Posted on 06/11/2014 9:08:35 AM PDT by Kaslin

A dozen years ago, Congress authorized President George W. Bush to invade Iraq to prevent the regime of then-dictator Saddam Hussein from posing a threat to this country with weapons of mass destruction we later discovered he did not have.

In his second inaugural address in 2005, Bush described the broader utopian vision motivating his foreign policy.

"So it is the policy of the United States to seek and support the growth of democratic movements and institutions in every nation and culture, with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world," Bush said.

To this end, he sought to create a free and democratic government in Iraq, a country in which a Sunni minority had long dominated a Shiite majority, and where a Christian population had managed to survive since before there was such a thing as Islam.

Iraq was a place we little understood, and where the primary legitimate interest of our government was making sure no one could get from there to here with the intent and capability of killing us and our children.

Barack Obama ran for president promising to end the war Bush started, and he repeatedly said two things about his plans for doing so. These were exemplified by a speech he delivered at Camp LeJeune in February 2009.

The first: "I intend to remove all U.S. troops from Iraq by the end of 2011." The second: "This strategy is grounded in a clear and achievable goal shared by the Iraqi people and the American people: an Iraq that is sovereign, stable and self- reliant."

In December 2011, when Obama did withdraw the last U.S. troops from Iraq, he simply announced his strategy had succeeded.

"Now, Iraq is not a perfect place," Obama said. "It has many challenges ahead. But we're leaving behind a sovereign, stable and self-reliant Iraq, with a representative government that was elected by its people. We're building a new partnership between our nations. And we are ending a war not with a final battle, but with a final march toward home. This is an extraordinary achievement, nearly nine years in the making."

By Obama's accounting, Bush's Iraqi dream essentially came true during Obama's presidency.

Today, less than three years after Obama withdrew U.S. forces, a sectarian war divides Iraq. Sunnis are rising up against the Shiite-dominated government.

Who leads the Sunni rebellion?

"Iraq's al Qaida affiliate constitutes the most violent component of the Sunni rebellion that has become a major threat to Iraqi stability in early 2014," says a Congressional Research Service report published last month. "Often cooperating with elements of the group operating in neighboring Syria, the group currently operates in both Iraq and Syria under the name of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) or, alternately, Islamic State of Iraq and Syria."

"The group is considered an al Qaida affiliate, despite disputes with remaining senior al Qaida leaders believed mostly still in Pakistan," said CRS.

"ISIL has led the insurrection that began in December 2013 and took control of Fallujah and parts of other cities in Anbar Province, including Abu Ghraib -- a mere 10 miles from Baghdad," said CRS.

Yesterday, ISIL captured Mosul, Iraq's second largest city.

Does this al-Qaida splinter group that has risen up in Iraq pose a threat to the United States? As reported in this column in February, CIA Director John Brennan told the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence that al-Qaida was using camps on both sides of the Syrian-Iraq border to "develop capabilities" that could threaten this nation.

"We are concerned about the use of Syrian territory by the al Qaida organization to recruit individuals and develop the capability to be able not just to carry out attacks inside of Syria, but also to use Syria as a launching pad," said Brennan.

House Intelligence Chairman Mike Rogers asked him: "Do you believe that there are training camps that have been established on either side of the Iraqi or Syrian border for the purposes of training al Qaida operatives?"

"There are camps inside of both Iraq and Syria that are used by al Qaida to develop capabilities that are applicable both in the theater as well as beyond," said Brennan.

"Do you believe that that ungoverned space presents a real threat to the United States of America, via al Qaida operations, or the West?" asked Rogers.

"I do," said Brennan.

And, in this country that Bush dreamed of making a beacon of liberty and Obama declared a stable representative government, Christian churches now face an existential threat.

"Large percentages of the country's most vulnerable religious minorities, which include Chaldo-Assyrian and other Christians, Sabean Mandaeans, and Yezidis," says the 2014 Annual Report of the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom, "have fled the country, threatening these communities' continued existence in Iraq."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; iraq
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1 posted on 06/11/2014 9:08:35 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Yes


2 posted on 06/11/2014 9:10:02 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: Kaslin

This was the Obama Surrender;
the American POV for his Terrorist Arab Spring.


3 posted on 06/11/2014 9:14:08 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: SpeakerToAnimals

Considering the fact that they’re on our side in fighting Assad in Syria if we helped them.


4 posted on 06/11/2014 9:14:50 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Kaslin

Baraq retroactively surrendered the Cold War and is seeing to it that the Russians dominate space.


5 posted on 06/11/2014 9:15:15 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: Kaslin

“weapons of mass destruction we later discovered he did not have. “

False!
He did have them, three mustard gas IED shells, and one Sarin IED shell shows that they exist.
ONE shell was proof enough.

Plus, Salman Pak Terrorist training Camp, in Iraq.
It was where the Madrid and 9/11 attackers trained...


6 posted on 06/11/2014 9:15:30 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Kaslin

Well, it’s kind of hard to win when you quit playing.


7 posted on 06/11/2014 9:16:31 AM PDT by yuleeyahoo (Liberty is not collective, it is personal. All liberty is individual liberty. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Kaslin

No; Iran did. A remarkable feat of irony (to the uninformed that is), the fact that both al-Qa’eda and al-Maliki are in Iran’s pocket.


8 posted on 06/11/2014 9:16:34 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: SpeakerToAnimals

We should nuked the bastards and left. What a waste of blood AMERICAN BLOOD!


9 posted on 06/11/2014 9:17:05 AM PDT by angcat
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To: Diogenesis

Al-Qaeda had won the war when the Current Occupant assumed office in January 2009.

Everything since is just mop-up operations for them. They got their generals back, and the US military is on the run everywhere. Sure, they gave up Osama bin Laden, but he was damaged goods anyway, and totally ineffectual as the leader.


10 posted on 06/11/2014 9:17:58 AM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: angcat

As far as I’m concerned, our level of involvement in the mideast should be restricted to helping protect Israel from attack (and possibly Jordan since they’re the only outpost of sanity in the arab world) and giving proportional aid to an international force to keep the Suez canal open.


11 posted on 06/11/2014 9:20:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Kaslin
King Obama handed Iraq to al Qaida. We sacrificed our blood and millions for nothing. King Obama is a traitor.
12 posted on 06/11/2014 9:21:25 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Kaslin

we later discovered he did not have.-—stop repeating this lie and some fact checking. He did have them, they were moved, we did not want to say they are in the wrong hands now so the Bush Administration said they were not there.

16 Intelligence agencies said they were there. Includint the Jewish one and I believe them more than ours.


13 posted on 06/11/2014 9:21:57 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Kaslin

apparently


14 posted on 06/11/2014 9:22:24 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SpeakerToAnimals

Iran won the Iraq war

Al Qaeda gets second place.


15 posted on 06/11/2014 9:22:27 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: cripplecreek

I agree with you. We lost five Troops on Monday one was only 19. I was crying when I heard that. We should leave Afghanistan now everyone. No troops should be there.


16 posted on 06/11/2014 9:22:55 AM PDT by angcat
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To: Kaslin
The Democrats are still obsessing over the claim that Bush should have been impeached for invading Iraq.

I think Obama and most Democrats would be happy to see Iraq fall under al-Qaeda or some similar group, as further "proof" that Bush's decision was wrong. That Americans died in Iraq doesn't matter to them--just as Obama approved a limited surge in Afghanistan with no intention of seeking victory, knowing that more Americans would die (but that the situation there would not become a total disaster before the 2012 election).

17 posted on 06/11/2014 9:25:29 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Kaslin

you wait around long enough, eventually you’re the last one there.


18 posted on 06/11/2014 9:26:06 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue (I have no home. I'm the wind.)
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To: Darksheare

I remember some Iraqis ill from radiation as well.


19 posted on 06/11/2014 9:27:28 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Kaslin
"So it is the policy of the United States to seek and support the growth of democratic movements and institutions in every nation and culture, with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world," Bush said.

I believe that was a noble vision and worth the effort to see if it could take root in Arabia. If it had, the benefits would be nearly infinite.

Sadly, Arabs and Muslims have been proved (by this test case) completely incapable of Freedom at this point in history.

Let 'em rot.

20 posted on 06/11/2014 9:28:56 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Radicalized via the Internet)
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