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Oklahoma Tea Party Candidate Supports Stoning Gay People to Death
Slate ^ | 11 June 2014 | Mark Joseph Stern

Posted on 06/11/2014 1:43:25 PM PDT by Lorianne

Given how savagely anti-gay the mainstream Oklahoma Republican party is, it’s no surprise that the state’s Tea Partiers are so rabidly hateful that they come across more as dark satire than as serious bigots. To wit: This week, an Oklahoma magazine discovered that last summer, Tea Party state House candidate Scott Esk endorsed stoning gay people to death: “I think we would be totally in the right to do it,” he said in a Facebook post. Esk went on to add nuance to his position:

That [stoning gay people to death] goes against some parts of libertarianism, I realize, and I’m largely libertarian, but ignoring as a nation things that are worthy of death is very remiss.

When a Facebook user messaged Esk to clarify further, he responded:

I never said I would author legislation to put homosexuals to death, but I didn’t have a problem with it.

(Excerpt) Read more at slate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: 2014midterms; ok2014
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To: Coronal

Thanks for that, Coronal

Now, those inclined can send off an email to this group and let them know what they think ... no doubt some here support what Eck has said and hopefully many more don’t.... so whatever your feeling, let them know.

okc912er@gmail.com


101 posted on 06/11/2014 3:54:13 PM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: Lorianne
Are you suggesting that if we just ignore it that it doesn’t exist?

I am suggesting that some people say stupid things in the heat of the moment. Why perpetuate the "one offs" that try to paint the TEA party in a bad light. That bad light has been the MSM mode of operation since the movement began. Why give MSM any credibility here at FR?

I just don’t get the ostrich head in sand approach to what is being said in the media.

The purpose is not to put our heads in the sand. The battle should be us doing everything earthly possible to fight and discredit the MSM for their leftist slant. I might be wrong, but that doesn't seem to be your intent with this thread.

102 posted on 06/11/2014 3:56:06 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: Lorianne
Here we are chasing our tails again as the left frames the debate. So...........is the left saying God doesn't have the right to call sin what it is and to punish it? We don't stone sinners anymore as God gave grace through Jesus.

Oklahoma Republican thinks stoning gay people is okay

But, when asked by a reporter at the Moore Daily, an Oklahoma news website, to clarify his statements, Esk doubled down.

“What I will tell you right now is that that was done in the Old Testament under a law that came directly from God, and in that time it was totally just, it came directly from God,” Esk said.

“I have no plans to reinstitute that in Oklahoma Law,” Esk continued. “I do have some very huge moral misgivings about those kinds of sins, and I think those kinds of sins will not do our country any good and certainly don’t do anything to preserve the family.”

103 posted on 06/11/2014 4:02:55 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: catfish1957

How can we fight the MSM if we don’t even know what is out there.

There are frequently things I don’t post, that I see posted here 3-4 days after the fact. Which means most people don’t get to know about it until it’s already a big furor in the media and we have zero input so late. We can’t investigate who is behind things, we can’t find out about the people involved etc.

That’s fine if that if what FR policy is, let them post what the policy is and I’ll follow it. Just don’t have one policy for me and a different one for everyone else.

I hope you have questioned the motives of everyone else that has posted negative media stories about the tea party on here. When Nancy Pelosi or other pols make off the wall slanderous remarks about the tea party being racists and terrorists and such, and people post that at FR I hope you have called them all down for that. I hope you have questioned their motives


104 posted on 06/11/2014 4:04:48 PM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Esk has a right to say/believe whatever he wants. I have no quibble with him on that.

I have a right to say it is hurting the tea party goals for governance (if he is indeed affiliated with the tea party).


105 posted on 06/11/2014 4:10:09 PM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: Lorianne
Non-Jews are not allowed to execute by stoning. They are only allowed to execute by beheading (though hanging meets the technical requirements).

Just remember an eye witness is required and that circumstantial evidence, hearsay, and even confessions are inadmissible.

106 posted on 06/11/2014 4:11:21 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: Lorianne
My apologies if I misunderstood you. It is just too many times we argue the merits of the ridiculous without dealing with the root cause. Which is, an MSM slanting, misreporting, and misquoting anyone associated with the TEA party.

I do not know the circumstances of what was said in this particular event, but if he is truly a TEA Party representative he believes in spending cuts, lower taxes, and less government. Not killing gays.

107 posted on 06/11/2014 4:14:34 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: Lorianne
My apologies if I misunderstood you. It is just too many times we argue the merits of the ridiculous without dealing with the root cause. Which is, an MSM slanting, misreporting, and misquoting anyone associated with the TEA party.

I do not know the circumstances of what was said in this particular event, but if he is truly a TEA Party representative he believes in spending cuts, lower taxes, and less government. Not killing gays.

108 posted on 06/11/2014 4:14:39 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: Lorianne

TP ok with child labor.
TP ok with sexual harassment.
TP behind OKC bombing.
TP is racist.
blah blah blah

Now we learn, according to Slate, a TP candidate is ok with stoning gays. Now other “news” agencies are jumping on board with this story. It’s rolling like a California wildfire, that is of course, until someone stomps it out.

On and on it goes. To demonize, then destroy is a age old gimmick that works best on simpletons, even today.


109 posted on 06/11/2014 4:16:27 PM PDT by takenoprisoner
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To: Lorianne
Okay but what did he say that was wrong?

Or is it the left using selected quotes again? Quotes from 2013.

110 posted on 06/11/2014 4:18:08 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Lorianne

If he doesn’t have enough savy or brains to disavow this stated belief, we don’t need him in the Tea Party. It will be another albatross or “not a witch” distraction. One does not advocate for any lawful citizens to be stoned nowadays in the states.


111 posted on 06/11/2014 4:32:48 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: Lorianne

Does anyone know who this guy is, or have an actual source for him being tea party?


112 posted on 06/11/2014 4:36:15 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: DariusBane
I think Thomas Jefferson would not be on board with this.

Tom wrote a bill for VA in which sodomites were to be castrated. Didn't pass.

113 posted on 06/11/2014 4:44:23 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: ansel12

That’s what I’d like to know too.

See post #93.

I don’t know if that is true but it is what one person has dug up so far


114 posted on 06/11/2014 4:51:56 PM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: Sherman Logan

Well at least he was just gonna cut off their... um... Well last time a described something like this accurately my post was removed.

Glad it didn’t pass. TJ was pretty much famous for a disconnect between rhetoric and governing after all. I always loved the rhetoric!


115 posted on 06/11/2014 4:54:58 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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To: DariusBane

Tom’s bill.

http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/amendVIIIs10.html


116 posted on 06/11/2014 4:56:45 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan; DariusBane
Tom wrote a bill for VA in which sodomites were to be castrated. Didn't pass.

Yes. Virginia kept the death penalty.

117 posted on 06/11/2014 4:57:14 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Lorianne

got to vet. too many fools can make a correct statement or 2 and have stuff like this around their neck.


118 posted on 06/11/2014 4:57:18 PM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Interesting. Thx.


119 posted on 06/11/2014 5:30:25 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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To: Sherman Logan

It seems TJ was trying to moderate the punishment, not increase.


120 posted on 06/11/2014 5:32:56 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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