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Iraqi Kurds seize Kirkuk as army flees
Hotair ^ | 06/12/2014 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 06/12/2014 7:27:38 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: sandboxshooter

So then what are the odds very shortly here of this ISIS army getting caught between the Kurds from the north and the Shiites from the southeast.


41 posted on 06/12/2014 8:26:13 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: ScottinVA
I think Biden may have stumbled onto something when he suggested a three-state (Kurd-Sunni-Shiite) solution for Iraq.

If this was actually a defined strategy by the White House I would give them credit. At least it's a strategy.

Same thing for Ukraine, it was always going to be very difficult for the entire nation of Ukraine to break free of Russian influence with so many voting Russians in the Crimea. I'm not a big One World Order guy, but I think somewhere it was negotiated and decided beforehand to let Crimea go to break greater Ukraine free.
42 posted on 06/12/2014 8:28:01 AM PDT by Daus
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To: Uncle Chip

I think they have to seriously consider this possibility and not get stretched too thin, if they’re not already. Plus they’re threatening the Jordanians. If they’re not careful, they’ll have a 3 pronged offensive against them. Kurds from North, Jordanians from the West and Shiite/Iranians from the South/East.


43 posted on 06/12/2014 8:28:13 AM PDT by sandboxshooter (Iraq, Afghanistan, War)
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To: Blackyce

I see no certainty that a prolonged effort to reassert total Suni control will take place. There may be some effort but when they secure the natural Suni tribal areas, the effort will diminish
Their main task is going to be learning how to governwhat they have.


44 posted on 06/12/2014 8:28:19 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: sandboxshooter

Thanks for your excellent posts and personal insight to this mess.

Please keep posting on it.

Maybe if you have time, you could set up a ping list.

Most of us unless we have been over there, haven’t the slightest idea of what has happened, is happening and may happen.

Thanks again and for your service.

Dave


45 posted on 06/12/2014 8:34:27 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obozo will not divert resources from his war on Americans to help our Veterans!)
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To: sandboxshooter

Well — if there is a 3 for 1 split who gets Bagdad??

— more specifically who gets the coveted Green Zone???


46 posted on 06/12/2014 8:39:23 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: PGR88

Iran is already there. I read a tweet about the Iranian special forces coming over the border.

Sadly, they’re going to be Iraq’s ally, because Obama has abandoned it. He always swoons over the most radical Muslims, and in this case, it’s ISIL.


47 posted on 06/12/2014 8:41:55 AM PDT by livius
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To: SeekAndFind
Waiting for Obama's Limbaugh Theorem response, "Say what, I didn't know about this, I heard it on TV, I'm as upset as you are, we're gonna' get to the bottom of it and make people pay. I'm shocked, don'tcha know." And again, he walks. .


48 posted on 06/12/2014 8:42:30 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Thank you sir. I mostly lurk, and comment on stuff I know a little about. Did a LOT of time in Turkey and Iraq.


49 posted on 06/12/2014 8:43:09 AM PDT by sandboxshooter (Iraq, Afghanistan, War)
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To: VanDeKoik

I wonder if the Kurds can kick the Shiite out of ISIS? That would be great if so.. This collapse is on Obamadullah’s back. He turned his back on the ‘Status of Forces’ agreement and this is the outcome of that.


50 posted on 06/12/2014 8:44:37 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: redgolum
Except that would lead the US to supporting someone who will then attack a NATO ally.

It wasn't so much a wish to support them as it was a statement that giving aid to the government in Baghdad is useless.

51 posted on 06/12/2014 8:46:05 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Uncle Chip

Not sure about that one...Lest we forget, supposedly major oil was found in Anbar Province, so the Sunni’s could have their own oil fields, as the Kurds and Shiites in the south do now. Erbil was booming last time I was in Kurdistan so it wouldn’t be out of the question for each to have a very modern capital in their respective areas. Baghdad is the big question.


52 posted on 06/12/2014 8:47:40 AM PDT by sandboxshooter (Iraq, Afghanistan, War)
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To: SeekAndFind

Send in General SISI who is not a sissy, and his Egyptian Legions- they know how to fight Islamic terrorists with no BS.


53 posted on 06/12/2014 8:49:49 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: Jabba the Nutt
And how does ISIS have enough people to hold these towns?

I don't believe that it does. It certainly does have enough people to destabilize the sitting government, though, putting Iraq up for grabs at the hands of a number of parties who have been just waiting for the opportunity. If Iran isn't already actively involved it soon will be.

54 posted on 06/12/2014 8:57:39 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: bunkerhill7

RE: Send in General SISI who is not a sissy, and his Egyptian Legions- they know how to fight Islamic terrorists with no BS.

There used to be a time when the USA could do it without losing much sleep .... Remember Tokyo? Dresden?

We don’t have the heart to do it anymore.

The Russians on the other hand FLATTENED Chechnya without breaking a sweat.


55 posted on 06/12/2014 9:00:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: sandboxshooter; Jim Robinson

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Fortunately, on about every subject, we have a few people like you, who know the realities of the news and report on it.

Years ago, my wife used to kid me about using FR to find out was happening. Then a little less than a decade ago, when something happened world wide or impacting our nation. She would go to Free Republic and see what they are saying about what’s happening,


56 posted on 06/12/2014 9:05:48 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obozo will not divert resources from his war on Americans to help our Veterans!)
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To: Art in Idaho
Thanks. This will be added to my collection of excuses by Herr Obozo.


57 posted on 06/12/2014 9:08:01 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obozo will not divert resources from his war on Americans to help our Veterans!)
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To: Vigilanteman

Communist Kurds in the north, always fighting Turkish forces, and more normal Kurds in the south who are always fighting Arabs and Arab terrorists. There’s probably more than that, but those were the two groups I learned about over there.

Also, I would LOVE for these ISIS clowns to go up against the Peshmerga. That would bring their campaign to a very sudden and violent end.


58 posted on 06/12/2014 9:09:05 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Grampa Dave

You’re welcome!


59 posted on 06/12/2014 9:10:57 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho
I love it. This portrays the inner core of Herr Obozo when it comes to answering tough questions re problems and failures due to him or his thugs.


60 posted on 06/12/2014 9:16:13 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obozo will not divert resources from his war on Americans to help our Veterans!)
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