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To: wagglebee

If he had made a directive stating that hydration and nutrition be withheld, then so be it.

Having a little experience in watching this happen, with the proper management of the terminally ill it is not barbaric or painful.

If these were his wishes, then let the man pass with some dignity. This is NOT being done against his will.


22 posted on 06/13/2014 6:39:50 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: Vermont Lt; BykrBayb; floriduh voter; Morgana; Alamo-Girl; Brian Kopp DPM; xzins; P-Marlowe
If he had made a directive stating that hydration and nutrition be withheld, then so be it.

Is there ANY EVIDENCE that he did?

Having a little experience in watching this happen, with the proper management of the terminally ill it is not barbaric or painful.

Let me guess, it's "euphoric"?

If these were his wishes, then let the man pass with some dignity. This is NOT being done against his will.

Again, where is the evidence of this?

Or are you stating that someone with dementia somehow has the capacity to decide they want to be murdered?

24 posted on 06/13/2014 6:47:32 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Vermont Lt
If he had made a directive stating that hydration and nutrition be withheld, then so be it. Having a little experience in watching this happen, with the proper management of the terminally ill it is not barbaric or painful.

Myself and family members cared for my dad his final days. . Nurses and Chaplain came in every day or so to check on him. He was under home Hospice. I was the primary care giver. He was terminal stage four cancer that doctors had treated for ten years of which 9 of them did not involve Chemo and did not lessen his enjoyment. Docs finally after several chemo attempts failed told him he had six months. It didn't take a medical degree though to realize his time with us were quickly going. He told us nothing Mom found the paper by accident four months later and his health had turned a lot worse.

Dad chose no tubes. When he asked for water I gave it. He could not eat and he did not want to eat nor a feeding tube. For those who haven't been around it they are not that pleasant for the patient. A few days before he passed he kept asking me for some tomato soup. Common sense told me it would likely make him sick, cause him to throw up, and in his weakened state cause him to die. He begged so I fixed a can. He took a couple of sips through a straw and a day or so later went into a Coma and passed within 48 hours.

A "terminal" person not wishing to be kept alive by tubes is one thing. It is the natural course known to man up till the past couple of generations. Giving someone drugs to hasten death especially non terminal is quite another. Dad knew his time was up, he'd suffered a year of treatment, could not eat, could not stand to take the medications to fight the pain of the cancer. He told me he was ready to go see his Pop.

I'm against euthanasia 100%. I'm also against prolonging life artificially if the person is suffering because of it. Make them as comfortable as possible to ease pain and tell them it's OK to go now. Many dying persons wait till either no one is in the room or family says we understand you are tired and need to go. Biblically I think it is likely dismissing the spirit.

79 posted on 06/18/2014 1:42:19 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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