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KATHLEEN PARKER: Armed, Dangerous, and Dead
Lincoln Journal Star ^ | 6/12/14 | Kathleen Parker

Posted on 06/13/2014 9:21:53 AM PDT by China Clipper

Edited on 06/13/2014 9:24:49 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON -- So much for the argument that having more people armed in public places will result in fewer gun deaths.

One of the three killed recently by a Las Vegas couple, Jerad and Amanda Miller, was an armed civilian, Joseph Wilcox. Two police officers who were also killed, Igor Soldo and Alyn Beck, were ambushed while having lunch. Seated in a booth, they had no chance to defend themselves, according to witnesses.


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To: demshateGod
Confirmed! ...looked up Idiot in the dictionary.


21 posted on 06/13/2014 9:58:54 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
Doesn't WALMART prohibit CCW in their stores ?

In OR, I have never seen a "no guns" sign on a Walmart. If the sign is not there, concealed carry is legal by state law.

I have not seen OC inside a Walmart in OR. Don't know if they have a policy against it of if I just haven't seen it.

Lately I have seen a few people open carrying revolvers with 8" to 12" barrels. I don't know what's up with that, but they are doing it.

22 posted on 06/13/2014 10:27:22 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: CurlyDave

12” barrel is one heck of a statement.


23 posted on 06/13/2014 10:33:01 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
Doesn't WALMART prohibit CCW in their stores ?

NO! THEY DO NOT!

24 posted on 06/13/2014 10:38:16 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: Leaning Right
Two cops were also shot. Following the article's line of reasoning, armed police aren't effective either.

Spot on!!

Kathleen Parker..."Conservative-In-Name-Only"....
25 posted on 06/13/2014 10:39:51 AM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: DaxtonBrown

Agreed — the CCW guy made them reconsider the extent of their rampage. He was a hero. We will never know how many lives he saved.


26 posted on 06/13/2014 10:44:09 AM PDT by punknpuss
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
Doesn't WALMART prohibit CCW in their stores ?

I was at a WalMart in PA a few months ago. I saw a man open-carrying a holstered pistol, walking his cart down the aisle. Nobody bothered him.

27 posted on 06/13/2014 10:45:22 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
Doesn't WALMART prohibit CCW in their stores?

Friday, April 16,1999 2:13 PM
Subject: RE: Firearms
Thank you for contacting Wal-Mart regarding our concealed handgun policy. Wal-Mart was founded by Sam Walton on three basic principles. Strive for Excellence, Service to our Customers, and Respect for the Individual. It is that respect for the individual that led us to create the current policy pertaining to concealed handguns.

The following is our policy......If a Wal-Mart customer has been awarded a concealed handgun license by the state government, Wal-Mart will follow the direction of the state. However, if at anytime while on Wal-Mart property, that customer's concealed weapon becomes visible to Wal-Mart associates or customers, Wal-Mart reserves the right to ask the customer to either reposition the weapon so that it will not be visible, to remove the weapon completely or to leave Wal-Mart property, With the exception of law enforcement personnel, Wal-Mart does not allow any exposed weapons to be worn or carried in public view on Wal-Mart property or in Wal-Mart stores. Customers other than law enforcement personnel wearing or carrying a weapon in an exposed manner will be asked to leave the property immediately.

We appreciate your concern and trust that this message has addressed your concerns regarding this issue.

Thank you,

Wal-Mart Stores, Inc."

28 posted on 06/13/2014 10:46:48 AM PDT by China Clipper ( Animals? Sure I like animals. See? There's one there, right next to the potatoes!)
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To: Leaning Right
Gee, Kathy dear, maybe it didn't dawn in your pretty little blonde head of yours the CCW holder was taking proper aim to insure he didn't hit an innocent bystanders like your antigun friends accuse gunowners of doing...

Should've "sprayed and prayed like many professional LEOs do, , huh, Kathy dear,
29 posted on 06/13/2014 10:48:47 AM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I believe her logical flaw in this case is called reductio ad absurdum TC
30 posted on 06/13/2014 10:50:04 AM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: RinaseaofDs

Yeah, Parker is looking at a single datapoint in a single scenario (spree shooting) that is used to support CCW and gun rights.

First, there are LOTS of other scenarios, including self defense against an individual attack (assault, rape, robbery, carjacking, etc) and home invasion.

In the case of spree killing chances are CCW isn’t going to act as a deterrent to the shooting. In all likelihood the spree killers have already made a decision to die. So CCW is a limiting factor that prevents further loss of life once a spree killer starts shooting. Either by killing the spree killer, convincing them that it’s time to off themselves, or by buying time for the cops or other armed citizens to show up.


31 posted on 06/13/2014 10:57:09 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: China Clipper

32 posted on 06/13/2014 11:01:14 AM PDT by FredZarguna (Das is nicht richtig nur falsch. Das ist nicht einmal falsch.)
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To: Leaning Right

By that logic, cops are twice as ineffective as a CCW.


33 posted on 06/13/2014 11:06:16 AM PDT by themidnightskulker
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To: China Clipper

Yes the armed citizen made a tactical error.
No one ever said that every armed citizen is a fictional Chuck Norris character.


34 posted on 06/13/2014 11:53:35 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American - Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
Doesn't WALMART prohibit CCW in their stores ?

No, and I know five of their employees who carry concealed while working.

35 posted on 06/13/2014 11:54:54 AM PDT by OldMissileer
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To: OldMissileer; China Clipper; PapaBear3625; VRWCmember; CurlyDave
U-2012>Doesn't WALMART prohibit CCW in their stores ?

No, and I know five of their employees who carry concealed while working.

I ask because my Walmart here in Taos NM
has "No Guns" blah blah signs.

36 posted on 06/13/2014 2:35:52 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
I ask because my Walmart here in Taos NM has "No Guns" blah blah signs.

It sounds as if there is no official policy at the corporate level so it is the decision of every General Manager.

37 posted on 06/13/2014 4:33:27 PM PDT by OldMissileer
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