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The only good those Tomahawks are is to destroy fixed concentrated targets. The ‘insurgents’ consisting of loosely formed, mobile forces aren’t the targets.

It is either a wildly idiotic and uninformed decision, or it is intentionally designed to further destabilize those forces the US left in charge.

IMO, treason.


3 posted on 06/14/2014 5:38:26 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
The only good those Tomahawks are is to destroy fixed concentrated targets. The ‘insurgents’ consisting of loosely formed, mobile forces aren’t the targets.

Like bringing in a battery of howitzers to take care of a mosquito problem.

This is complete posturing. Obama is dithering just long enough for ISIS to overthrow Baghdad. Either that, or for the mullahs of Iran to get a toehold in Iraq. I don't think he cares which it is, so long as radical Islam comes out ahead.

5 posted on 06/14/2014 5:43:44 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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Tomahawks = treason?

Who knew?

We’ve killed a great many terrorists with tomahawks. They all need to sleep, meet and resupply.

Any other assets you believe should be taken off the table? Drones? RFSA? Satellites?


6 posted on 06/14/2014 5:43:50 AM PDT by Justa
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I think this guys commentary is worth considering,

Absent some last minute reversal of fortune, it looks like a coalition of terrorist groups will grab Iraq which, combined with territory it already has in Syria, will constitute the long dreamed of Caliphate, stretching from the border with Iran to the Mediterranean. With the American built military hardware the terrorists will have seized along with Iraq, it would have a pretty good chance of putting an end to Bashir Assad.

Obama could have prevented this by forging a status of forces agreement with the Iraqi government. But so eager was he to pull out of Iraq that he didn't even try. Iraq was left alone to try to keep the republic that we had spent so much blood and treasure helping it to acquire. As a result, it looks like the helicopters are going to ascend from the rooftops of the American embassy in the Green Zone after all in a replay of Vietnam, 1975.

President Obama Presides Over Disaster in Iraq

Interesting insight as to this securing the creation of the caliphate...

12 posted on 06/14/2014 5:58:33 AM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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To: Gaffer
IIRC, Tomahawks can now hit moving targets & the target can be changed in flight.

That said, a Tomahawk is a mighty expensive way to hit a moving truck or house full of terrorists.

Iraq needs armed drones for intelligence & the ability to hit targets of opportunity. Obama has rejected that request.

Drones would require US forces to operate, which puts US troops on the ground, something that Obama does not want to do. Maliki PO’d Obama during the failed status of forces agreement, so this is payback.

24 posted on 06/14/2014 7:54:46 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Gaffer

Nah, there is a real and valid need for Tomahawks in the region: to destroy our embassy after it is taken when Iraq falls. That’s one helluva fixed target.


30 posted on 06/14/2014 11:16:35 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Sgt. Andrew Tahmooressi or Atty General Holder, who brought more guns to Mexico?)
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This may be off topic, but are not Tomahawk missiles by their very nature racist?

Should they not be called, say, Eagle Feather missiles?

Or maybe, Native American Get You Good missiles?


33 posted on 06/14/2014 4:29:20 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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