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Shiite militia seizes control of Iraqi town, slowing ISIS drive toward Baghdad
.washingtonpost.com ^ | June 14 at 7:23 PM | Liz Sly and Abigail Hauslohner

Posted on 06/14/2014 4:37:41 PM PDT by BenLurkin

Men young and old piled into taxis, trucks, police vehicles and minibuses and drove noisily through the streets, honking horns and waving an assortment of weapons including rocket-propelled grenades, high-powered sniper rifles, Kalashnikov assault rifles and handguns.

“Daiish we will never surrender,” chanted a group of young men piled on the back of a pick-up truck, using an acronym for the al-Qaeda-inspired Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), which carried out a stunningly swift seizure of large swaths of northern Iraq last week.

“We want to show the world that we can protect ourselves,” said Khodr al-Tamimi, a turbaned cleric who waved a pistol from the window of his black, armored sports utility vehicle as it wound through emptied shopping streets. “Wherever they go, we will defeat them,” he added, referring to ISIS.

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TOPICS: Israel; Russia; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: europeanunion; iran; iraq; isis; israel; jordan; kurdistan; lebanon; nato; opec; russia; shiites; syria; turkey; waronterror

1 posted on 06/14/2014 4:37:41 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

So, Iraq is really three provinces in the absence of an over-riding strongman. No one has allegiance to the cobbled together army of the “nation-built” state.

I bet the Sunnis never take Baghdad or the South, or that the Kurds ever relinquish control of Kirkuk.

What surprises me is that the Iraqi state fell apart so easily to a bunch of terrorists that, even with Obama’s confused help, “non-lethal aid”, military training, and Libyan weapons, couldn’t beat Assad.


2 posted on 06/14/2014 4:40:07 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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Heaven knows Old Ben is no kind of military expert.

But they really should use all that energy for digging in. Deep.


3 posted on 06/14/2014 4:40:18 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

This is like when the Soviets were fighting the Nazis. I don’t have a dog in this contest.


4 posted on 06/14/2014 4:41:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: BenLurkin

The U.S. could stop this ISIS drive in a heartbeat with our air power. All we would have to do is tell the morons on the ground to take cover and not have any “weddings” until the bombing stops.


5 posted on 06/14/2014 4:41:51 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: BenLurkin

One strategic air strike and this offensive is over.

But Obama is golfing. I heard he almost broke 100 once.


6 posted on 06/14/2014 4:43:53 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: BenLurkin

Bump for digging in.


7 posted on 06/14/2014 4:44:18 PM PDT by jazusamo (Sometimes I think that this is an era when sanity has become controversial: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Gonna need a score card for this conflict. Sunni, Shiite.

Are Subaru and Scirocco on the bench?


8 posted on 06/14/2014 4:47:14 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: BenLurkin

Never thought I would cheer for team Shia.


9 posted on 06/14/2014 4:48:22 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: P-Marlowe
One strategic air strike and this offensive is over.

You think ISIS would be openly on the roads unless they were assured, at a VERY high level, that the US would not attack them?

ISIS are the people we've bankrolled and given weapons to in Syria. Obama is on the Sunni side, the side of his Saudi benefactors. He WANTS them to win.

10 posted on 06/14/2014 4:54:23 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: P-Marlowe
But Obama is golfing. I heard he almost broke 100 once.

How did he do on the back 9?

11 posted on 06/14/2014 4:55:48 PM PDT by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: cripplecreek

Apparently, this ISIS bunch are so bad that even al-Qaeda doesn’t want to have much to do with them.

When they cause Iran and the Iraqi governments to join forces, that says they see a potentially fearsome foe.

When Iran offers to join with the evil USA to fend them off, that says they are in fear of maintaining their control.


12 posted on 06/14/2014 5:02:25 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: P-Marlowe
I heard he almost broke 100 once.

And that was just on the front 9

13 posted on 06/14/2014 5:03:23 PM PDT by digger48
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To: BenLurkin
Liz Sly and Abigail Hauslohner wouldn't know a high-powered sniper rifle if they were hit over the head with one...
14 posted on 06/14/2014 5:07:28 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: cripplecreek

Never thought I would cheer for team Iran.


15 posted on 06/14/2014 5:07:45 PM PDT by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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To: BenLurkin

The story buries the name of the town so well I haven’t found it yet. Is it Samarra?


16 posted on 06/14/2014 5:09:18 PM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: BenLurkin

Where is Code Pink to protest this war, imperialism, and the war crimes?


17 posted on 06/14/2014 5:13:42 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: TomGuy

If we had a decent president I might actually consider a short term alliance with Iran on this. Obviously I don’t trust Iran but I trust Obama to only make a mess of such an alliance.

I would avoid direct contact with the Iranians by going through Al Sistani the senior Shia guy in Iraq. He doesn’t love us but has been willing to work with us in the past.


18 posted on 06/14/2014 5:14:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Gotta at least give Joe Biden some credit...splitting Iraq into 3 was a pretty good idea.


19 posted on 06/14/2014 5:15:02 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Why work for a living when you can vote for a living?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This is like when the Soviets were fighting the Nazis. I don’t have a dog in this contest.

I agree with you but this is stranger than that. It's more like the Brownshirts fighting the SS. But even that's a bad example. There were clearer differences between the SA and the SS then there are between any two Muslims anywhere.

There's not a dime's worth of difference between any two Muslims in the world. But don't tell them that. Let them slaughter each other. The more the merrier.

20 posted on 06/14/2014 5:30:50 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Genoa

Looks like it might by “Daiish”


21 posted on 06/14/2014 5:31:18 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

A cleric can afford an armored SUV? That’s probably $150k for starters.

Oh, the piety of the Islamic clergy.


22 posted on 06/14/2014 5:33:47 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: BenLurkin
“Daiish we will never surrender,” chanted a group of young men piled on the back of a pick-up truck, using an acronym for the al-Qaeda-inspired Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS)

A steaming pile of Compost, isn't it? DAIISH is the Arabic acronym that is the equivalent of ISIS.
23 posted on 06/14/2014 5:39:53 PM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist; All
splitting Iraq into 3 was a pretty good idea

The idea a decade ago, and by the British after the Ottoman Empire collapsed, was a non-sectarian state that did not permit one religious or racial group to dominate. This would be a more healthy outcome than three states, all of whom would be out to get their neighbors. That was the idea, and it might have worked if Obama hadn't thrown it away starting in 2009. Obama released the future ISIS head from prison and then trained and funded them to destabilize Syria. Just as happened when the al Qaeda precursor trained by the Reagan Administration in Afghanistan turned on its benefactor, so ISIL turned on the U.S. ally in Baghdad.

24 posted on 06/14/2014 5:48:06 PM PDT by Kennard
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To: FlingWingFlyer

ISIS has got to have a tenuous supply line.


25 posted on 06/14/2014 5:54:21 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

This is going to work out well for Kurdistan (independence at last?) and Turkey (oil pipeline), and of course for the human population of the Earth as the Shiite-heads and ISIS fight over a swath of muzzie-induced desert for the foreseeable future. I’d be very surprised if roving rogue bands of Shiite jihadists don’t find themselves swarmed by well-networked gangs from ISIS; they haven’t suddenly enjoyed success, they’ve been building the organization to make it happen while biding their time. Thanks BenLurkin.


26 posted on 06/14/2014 5:54:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Genoa; BenLurkin
Way down, after the map, I see this:

In the town of Muqdadiyah in Diyala province northeast of Baghdad, residents said it was the Asaib Ahl al-Haq (AAH) militia that had made the difference and that fighters with that Iranian-backed paramilitary movement were now in control.

But the wording leaves it uncertain whether this is the town left out of the lead or a second one.

Fog of war.
27 posted on 06/14/2014 5:58:23 PM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Paladin2

Yup! And lots of new sand colored Toyota trucks.


28 posted on 06/14/2014 6:19:07 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Maybe Toyota is running a fleet useage study for future product development.


29 posted on 06/14/2014 6:24:56 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Pearls Before Swine
What surprises me is that the Iraqi state fell apart so easily to a bunch of terrorists that, even with Obama’s confused help, “non-lethal aid”, military training, and Libyan weapons, couldn’t beat Assad.

ISIS owns a large chunk of eastern Syria and the Rebels did have Assad on the ropes for awhile. Heck they even tried to assassinate at least three times. Now ISIS are moving stolen Iraqi military hardware into Syria, so they may start another push west. They also stole millions which can be used to send suicide squads all over the planet. Not over yet.

30 posted on 06/14/2014 6:27:40 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Kennard

——Just as happened when the al Qaeda precursor trained by the Reagan Administration in Afghanistan

Lefty myth, surprised you are posting it here.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Looming-Tower-Al-Qaeda-Road/dp/1400030846

This is the most authoritative source and he says USA was not working with Al Queda but with other Afghan groups.


31 posted on 06/14/2014 7:06:26 PM PDT by sgtyork (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
I bet the Sunnis never take Baghdad or the South, or that the Kurds ever relinquish control of Kirkuk.

Correct. Southern Iraq is Shiite, and they have their own militias. A rag-tag band of sunni jihadis wouldn't dare enter Baghdad. ISIS may create chaos and trigger all kinds of violence and retribution, but they won't enter it, much less control Baghdad. My guess is Maliki felt the sunni towns of Mosul and Tikrit were indefensible anyway and his shiite-led government probably wasn't popular there anyway - so he let them go. As for the North - The Kurds have had effective independence since 1991 - there is not a chance they lose it to a bunch of sunni crazies.

32 posted on 06/14/2014 7:07:33 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88

I bank on the Sunni—They have the drive—they have expeience on their side—If they have a good general they will flank the defenders—cut them off and make for Baghdad itself. If it falls they will have the state. Iran may have to send more than a few “Revolutionary Guards” Send in their air force and heavy tanks. After Baghdada falls they will head for the Kurds in the north. Next stop the Oil Rich states on the Gulf. Then Israel and the USA—Lots of folks going to die before the year is out.


33 posted on 06/14/2014 8:31:52 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: TomGuy

That is what CNN is saying to keep up the charade that Obama was correct in saying AQ was on the run.


34 posted on 06/14/2014 8:42:55 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: BenLurkin

I don’t understand..if they take over a city...where do they get the people capable of running a city ???? do they leave behind a city administration???....is there a new mayor and city council??? or do they just bust it up , claim vitory, and leave....


35 posted on 06/14/2014 8:45:41 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: BenLurkin

muslim on muslom violence
blood in the sand
GRAB THE POPCORN
hold the drones


36 posted on 06/14/2014 9:05:29 PM PDT by zzwhale
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To: sgtyork
says USA was not working with Al Queda but with other Afghan groups

Thank you. Lawrence Wright's book is well sourced regarding the late 80s period. The CIA was likely not in touch with the Afgan Arabs.

If the foreign fighters got too full themselves, the poppy farmers would shoot them. What a culture!

37 posted on 06/14/2014 9:47:16 PM PDT by Kennard
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To: cripplecreek

I would encourage Iranian regime to send as many of its military, including bassijis to fight the ISIS. Hopefully, a few other Iranian mullahs in addition to that fat mullah dude Sadr who is now in Iraq, make it to Iraq too. Let them fight for as long as it takes and then send in air support to take care of them collectively. ISIS’s objectives, ideology, actions, end of the day, aren’t any better than Shia regime of Iran. They deserve each other.


38 posted on 06/14/2014 9:55:54 PM PDT by odds
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To: cripplecreek

Never thought I would cheer for team Shia.

************

I know. It’s a crazy world, isn’t it? The ‘Dad’s Division’ is the most human face I’ve seen on these people. “Give me a rifle. I’m going to protect my family.”

Crazy.


39 posted on 06/15/2014 12:35:36 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (FIGHT! FIGHT! SEVERE CONSERVATIVE AND THE WILD RIGHT!)
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