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IMO, this article is a classic example of someone getting so tied up with philosophy and theory that he becomes blinded by the realities of the real world.

What would happen, for instance, when the Democrats start beating the Republicans over the head with the heartless club?

Or when a liberal judge decides these "undocumented workers" have the same rights as citizens, Congress be damned?

Any step that doesn't include border enforcement and repatriation is amnesty. Period.

1 posted on 06/18/2014 8:01:31 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: Bratch

Yes, the democrats have used the 3rd rail as an effective tool in politics. And that tactic could work for another decade.

But leadership is seeing coming problems and have the courage to solve them. History teaches us that previous great empires before, met their demise through over spending, unaffordable debt and foreign military adventures on borrowed money.

Dave Brat the economics professor sees the disaster coming at us like a freight train. But the powers in DC only worry about the next election.


2 posted on 06/18/2014 8:15:34 PM PDT by entropy12 (Obummer = worst president ever, thanks to voters who abstained on election day!)
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To: Bratch
If illegals get to stay it's amnesty.

Amnesty will mark the formal end of the USA as a sovereign independent country with its own language, borders, and culture.

3 posted on 06/18/2014 8:16:07 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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” How about a path to permanent legal guest worker status, not citizenship? Workers would pay payroll taxes, and be eligible for no benefits and no citizenship. There’d be some fraud, but the taxes could be set to cover the cost.”

The cost of what?

The cost of deporting them, which will never happen?
The cost of whatever agency will ultimately be responsible for deporting them which will never do what it was charged to do?
The salaries of the bureaucrats who will administer, corruptly, such an agency?
How about the deterioration in the overall respect for the law?
And the law enforcement efforts required for the extra policing all these illegals require?

And who is going to enforce the conditions under which they are going to be “citizenized”?

Suppose they promise to learn English. Will they be deported if they do not? Or will be then undertake large programs designed to teach them English?
And what if they do not pay taxes. Will they be deported if they do not pay taxes?
What the costs of inoculating hundreds of thousands of people against disease that were generally consider eliminated from the US? Now we have measles, scabies, and other treats running around. Treating that/those is free, right?


4 posted on 06/18/2014 8:19:22 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: Bratch

Dope isn’t legal here in Texas, so how’d Jon Cassidy get his?


5 posted on 06/18/2014 8:26:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million for ANY 2016 pro-2nd Amendment candidate.)
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To: Bratch
George W. Bush, Michele Bachmann, and Rick Perry all rhetorically touched entitlement programs and lived

Has it occurred to this author what's left of middle America have got a belly full of government pandering, lies and deceit?

Has it occurred to Mr. Jon Cassidy we're becoming more outnumbered daily, by tens of millions who entered illegally and continue to do so?

This after 30+ years of American voting, begging screaming, protesting, petitioning government for relief. To the point where it's clearly undermined and compromised our future and the electoral process.

All while government has aided and abetted lawlessness, all while middle America has been forced to subsidize this epic decades long illegal invasion to the tune of hundreds of billions of their tax dollars.

6 posted on 06/18/2014 8:26:20 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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This idiot misses the entire point! Without effective border control, we CAN NOT even discuss any form of legalized status. And not a couple months control, years of control. Three to five years of strict border control and strict punishment for those who employ illegals. Not just fines, jail time for corporate officers who employ illegal aliens. Coupled with ZERO, SIP, SILCH, NO form of welfare for ANYONE here illegally and a majority of the problem solves itself.

After a few years, then we can START to talk about some form of legalization. Maybe.


7 posted on 06/18/2014 8:28:47 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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Workers would pay payroll taxes, and be eligible for no benefits and no citizenship.

Please. Enabled by liberal politicians they would be at the trough in no time.

8 posted on 06/18/2014 8:28:53 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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Sorry, Mr. Cassidy, but Dave Brat's victory was all about amnesty and nothing else. Thanks for the great idea about a guest worker program, but we already have one in the H1B visa, which is equally controversial. You try to extrapolate Dave Bratt's 'like' of Milton Friedman, among many others in the conservative pantheon, as an adoption of all of Friedman's comments over his lifetime.

You, Mr. Cassidy, are merely singing this week's GOPe amnesty hymn. We don't buy your reality distortion field.

9 posted on 06/18/2014 8:29:40 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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Yep, and Friedman was an idiot on immigration.

Already our nation is only a memory, and the U. S. is just a place to work now.

We built a nation, an identity, a culture, a people, and now it is every man for himself, get what you can while the getting is good, and destroying the host is the cost of business.

This is more like looting than being and American.


10 posted on 06/18/2014 8:32:15 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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The healthcare and education costs are huge.

Once an illegal gets older or injured they won’t leave and them staying isn’t free of charge.


15 posted on 06/18/2014 10:23:46 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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“Brat works his opposition to illegal immigration into his general theme of opposition to crony capitalism. That juxtaposition has drawn a lot of attention for its novelty, but it would be more effective, or coherent at least, if he wasn’t trying to argue that restricting the labor pool was somehow pro-free market. “Big business gets the cheap labor and the rest of us pick up the tab,” Brat says. Milton Friedman would laugh at Brat’s complaint about immigration’s (brief, barely discernible) depressive effect on wages. A better summary is that big business gets the cheap labor and the rest of us pick up the cheap products and services.”

The author of this piece must be comprised of concrete from the neck up.

Brag is exactly right. Illegal invasion, backed by the Chamber of Commerce, Tysons, National Restaurant Association, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, etc., etc., is part and parcel of crony capitalism.

The Big Business elites get the benefit of cheap serf labor. And when Brag says “we pick up the tab” he is exactly right. What Brag means by that, which the author is too dense or too deceptive to acknowledge, is that we pick up the tab of free schooling, free emergency room treatments, free food stamps, and innumerable other benefits to illegal invaders that the Big Business elites push off onto the taxpayers.


20 posted on 06/19/2014 6:33:04 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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Once again we have the conflation between "immigration" and "illegal infiltration". The illegals coming here are not coming to become Americans. They are coming to stay their own nationality. This is NOT immigration, this is invasion.

And there are more attacks on the normal, sensible Americans who oppose this situation. They're the problem.

21 posted on 06/19/2014 6:39:25 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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