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Iraq crisis: Isis jihadists 'seize Saddam Hussein's chemical weapons stockpile' - live
The Telegraph ^ | June 19, 2014 | Elahe Izadi

Posted on 06/19/2014 9:00:07 AM PDT by don-o

16.52 The remaining chemical weapons from Saddam Hussein's regime are stored in two sealed bunkers, both located at the Al Muthanna Chemicals Weapons Complex, a large site in the western desert some 80km north west of Baghdad.

This was the principal manufacturing plant for both chemical agents and munitions during Saddam Hussein’s rule.

Thousands of tonnes of chemical weapons were produced, stored and deployed by the Saddam Hussein regime. Iraq used these weapons during the Iran - Iraq War (1980 to 1988) and against the Kurds in Halabja in 1988.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; chemicalweapons; iraq; iraqcrisis; isis; postwariraq; wmd
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To: sunmars

Praying here, that the word from Iraq is not so bad, that he is throwing up in the bath room : |


41 posted on 06/19/2014 9:46:55 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... (Had I brought Christ with me, the outcome would have been different. Dr. Eric Cunningha.m)
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To: don-o

Chemical weapons? What chemical weapons? Apparently the editors who worked at the Telegraph in 2003 didn’t leave a memo for their successors that there were no chemical weapons in Iraq.....


42 posted on 06/19/2014 9:49:42 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Can Juan Williams possibly be that stupid?)
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To: Star Traveler

They’ll use them here.


43 posted on 06/19/2014 9:50:49 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Linda Frances

I remember seeing aerial photos of trucks moving something from Iraq into Syria right before the war, supposedly WOMD.


44 posted on 06/19/2014 9:53:20 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: don-o
The delay is probably due to a huge debate about whether the American public is dumb enough to buy this argument:

There were no WMDs in Iraq when George W. Bush illegally and immorally invaded Iraq and these are the WMDs that Bush had his army plant in case he had to prove their existence. Of course, being incompetent, George W. Bush failed to provide adequate protection. Our great and infallible leader just learned of the problem and is laser focused on cleaning up yet another George W. Bush mess.

You know that no matter what happens the Obama administration will blame it on Bush.

45 posted on 06/19/2014 10:02:52 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Ignore the GOP-e. Cruz to victory in 2016.)
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To: thesearethetimes...

Oh....funny how NOW they show up.


46 posted on 06/19/2014 10:03:55 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: Principled
But I thought he didn’t have any????

The odds of Saddam destroying all of his WMD are about the same as the odds that Assad will destroy all of his. In other words, nil. Saddam destroyed quite a bit that the UN documented, but they were many that Saddam's own paper work said existed, but were not verified destroyed by the UN.

Look the way this was suppose to work was, after Saddam was taken out, Iran was next. If we had taken down Iran after Saddam, the entire region would have been better off. Israel would have taken care of Assad. Instead, the progresso Islamic terrorist but kissing morons decided to attack Bush for lying about WMD that the UN had documentation that stated the WMD existed. That is why the world is about to explode.

47 posted on 06/19/2014 10:06:31 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: cripplecreek
And why are they still there at all?

Destroying them safely is a difficult and expensive process. VX in particular, has to be incinerated at high temperatures to destroy toxic byproducts, and if the temperature isn't high enough what escapes the chimney is very nasty - a farmer near Dugway Proving Grounds (IIRC) found a flock of sheep keeled over mysteriously dead one time.

Chemical weapons produced at the Al Muthanna facility, which Isis today seized, are believed to have included mustard gas, Sarin, Tabun, and VX.

A blistering agent and three nerve gases. Now, in order for anyone to get money to destroy the stuff they'd first have to admit publicly that it existed, wouldn't they? And that goes against the Left's media narrative. So there it sat.

It has been a decade of screaming frustration having to endure the constant drumbeat of "Bush lied, people died" that is still a propaganda staple. Of course Saddam had the stuff, he killed people with it. It is simply amazing how much amnesia suddenly occurred when it became advantageous for the Left to pretend otherwise.

So what we have here is an admission that Saddam really did have these weapons, that everybody knew it, and that the propaganda campaign went on regardless. It ought to be a major embarrassment, but unless somebody dies, it will be a minor ripple, quickly forgotten.

48 posted on 06/19/2014 10:08:42 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Iraq had an enormous stockpile of WMDs. They don’t all have to be in one place. I thought after 11 years of the left’s propaganda that surely all of them had been either moved out of country or destroyed.

Clearly that wasn’t the case and our government has known this all along!


49 posted on 06/19/2014 10:09:27 AM PDT by Dave346
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To: demshateGod
"They’ll use them here."

Soon coming across our southern border with the tidal wave of new RAT voters.

50 posted on 06/19/2014 10:12:03 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Dave346

This is no ordinary meeting.....

The White House has released a list of 15 participants, some attending by video conference. They include figures from the military, intelligence and diplomatic branches of the US government:

-Joe Biden, the vice president

-John Kerry, the secretary of state, and Chuck Hagel, the secretary of defence

-John Brennan, the head of the CIA, and James Clapper, the director of national intelligence

-Samantha Power, the US ambassador to the United Nations

-General Martin Dempsey, the chair of the joint chiefs of staff

-Assorted national security and legal aides


51 posted on 06/19/2014 10:12:29 AM PDT by sunmars
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To: sunmars

He’s late again....now saying 1.15....45 mins late, must be watching nickleodeon again....


Or the news so he can say “ first time I heard about it, was on the news “


52 posted on 06/19/2014 10:14:40 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: epluribus_2
Baby milk powder and gas.

Baby gas is pretty nasty.

53 posted on 06/19/2014 10:14:45 AM PDT by palmer (There's someone in my lead but it's not me)
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To: palmer

Baby gas is pretty nasty.


Good one :):)


54 posted on 06/19/2014 10:16:04 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: sunmars

Thanks for that information. I was wondering how much longer 0bama’s team could pretend the problem didn’t exist. BTT


55 posted on 06/19/2014 10:16:59 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

clearly something is afoot, this is more like a war cabinet than a good old get together.


56 posted on 06/19/2014 10:18:46 AM PDT by sunmars
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To: thesearethetimes...
Syria's Chemical Weapons Came From Saddam's Iraq

500 tons of uranium shipped from Iraq, Pentagon says

As for the uranium, didn't Jack Wilson write an op-ed article claiming that Hussein never obtained yellow cake from Niger and that launched a 3 year investigation into who outed his wife as a bogus "covert" CIA agent?

57 posted on 06/19/2014 10:18:48 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (By now, everyone should know that you shoot a zombie in the head. Don't try to reason with them...)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Syria's Chemical Weapons Came From Saddam's Iraq
500 tons of uranium shipped from Iraq, Pentagon says

As for the uranium, didn't Jack Wilson write an op-ed article claiming that Hussein never obtained yellow cake from Niger and that launched a 3 year investigation into who outed his wife as a bogus “covert” CIA agent?


Why on earth doesn't anyone like Cheney talk about what WMDs that has been found, the trucks we watched going into Syria (Syria using WMDs on their own people) and what Isis has found? It's like they are hiding a big secret that's so important, they are willing to be called liars and guilty of killing innocent Iraqis.
58 posted on 06/19/2014 10:36:39 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: don-o
Chemical weapons? Nah. All those Kurdish women and children were faking being dead after that fake attack by Saddam's fake forces in 1988. Bush and Cheney planned the whole fake thing. Yeah.

Actually, I have lib friends who absolutely refused to believe Hussein ever had any wmds. I cited the documented attacks on the Kurdish villages and the UN inspectors reports, Hans Blix, Unscom, etcetera. They still refused to believe me.

Now the merits or demerits of going into Iraq can be debated by honest people, but there's no denying that Saddam had a lot of wmds and used them at times. How or whether he got rid of them is still a good question. A degraded sarin gas canister was lobbed at some of our soldiers in 2004 by Al-Qaeda. Where did they get it?

59 posted on 06/19/2014 10:38:52 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: sunmars
This is no ordinary meeting.....

The White House has released a list of 15 participants, some attending by video conference. They include figures from the military, intelligence and diplomatic branches of the US government:

-Joe Biden, the vice president

-John Kerry, the secretary of state, and Chuck Hagel, the secretary of defence

-John Brennan, the head of the CIA, and James Clapper, the director of national intelligence

-Samantha Power, the US ambassador to the United Nations

-General Martin Dempsey, the chair of the joint chiefs of staff

-Assorted national security and legal aides


Wow, I feel so much safer now that I know that cast of characters are working the problem, but I'd feel so much safer if I knew National Security Adviser Susan Rice was taking part as well. I don't see her name or Deputy National Security Adviser Tommy “Dude” Vietor’s name anywhere on the list at all.

60 posted on 06/19/2014 10:40:53 AM PDT by rdcbn
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