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Archbishop Cordileone doubles down on gay marriage stance
SFGate.com ^ | 6/19/14 | C. W. Nevius

Posted on 06/19/2014 7:07:20 PM PDT by madprof98

Same-sex marriage isn't a debate in San Francisco. It's state law. Same-sex marriages take place every day in the city, including at City Hall.

That's why, despite all the heat he's getting, it is puzzling that San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone continues to stubbornly insist on speaking at the March for Marriage on Thursday in Washington, D.C.

A long list of local politicians and community leaders, including Mayor Ed Lee, Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom and Rep. Nancy Pelosi, have signed letters imploring Cordileone not to participate in the divisive, politically charged event.

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Cordileone is flying across the country as the only announced representative of the Catholic Church to participate in an event that surely has little support in San Francisco. If the archbishop would like to take on gang violence or homelessness - the church-affiliated St. Vincent de Paul homeless shelter is one of the largest in the city - that would be fine.

But the fact is that this marriage crusade is his issue, not San Francisco's. There may be a place where his views would represent the community. This isn't it.

Time for Cordileone to move on from San Francisco.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: antiheterosexual; cordileone; gavinnewsom; homosexualagenda; lofan; pelousy; sanfransicko; sodomandgomorrah
Typical response from the peaceful, tolerant folks in the city named for St. Francis:

My gaydar tells me Mr. Cordileone is a self-hating homosexual.

1 posted on 06/19/2014 7:07:20 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: madprof98

Speak Truth to Power


2 posted on 06/19/2014 7:08:56 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: madprof98

Democrats are so good at saying “separation of church and state”. So why is that out the window in this case?


3 posted on 06/19/2014 7:10:12 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: madprof98
Same-sex marriage isn’t a debate in San Francisco. It’s state law …
No, Prop 8 is state law, unjustly “struck down” by an openly-biased gay judge.

They do not know what they have sown, do they. So they will be utterly shocked by what they have to reap.
4 posted on 06/19/2014 7:10:58 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: madprof98
it is puzzling that San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone continues to stubbornly insist on speaking at the March for Marriage on Thursday

Puzzling?

It makes perfectly good sense.

5 posted on 06/19/2014 7:13:54 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

They are expecting a church to be democratic as in dominated by the city mood.

Well any church that insists on a standard of absolute truth (even if they disagree about exactly what that is) has the right to laugh at the notion.

The good Archbishop should not be flustered at all. They should be told they cannot legislate marriage to be gay any more than they can legislate water not to be wet.


6 posted on 06/19/2014 7:14:01 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: BenLurkin

They’re being uppity.


7 posted on 06/19/2014 7:14:23 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: madprof98

Imagine that?The Good Archbishop Actually believes in his Religion????Boy,is something that’s NOT”Up-For-Grabs”??????????????


8 posted on 06/19/2014 7:14:30 PM PDT by bandleader
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To: madprof98
It is puzzling that San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone continues to stubbornly insist on speaking at the March for Marriage on Thursday in Washington, D.C.

It is puzzling.

It's almost as if - call me crazy - other human beings exist besides CW Nevius.

Imagine that: actual people who have their own opinions that are different from Nevianism.

Could such a thing be?

9 posted on 06/19/2014 7:14:31 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Olog-hai

Is it still”Legal”for a Man and a Woman to MARRY???I guess they can”Slide”if they include some of their pets??????


10 posted on 06/19/2014 7:16:00 PM PDT by bandleader
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To: wideawake

It’s better! It’s like... there’s a GOD!


11 posted on 06/19/2014 7:16:10 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yep, right and wrong are not subject to popularity, and we can’t make God in our own image. We have to raise ourselves to His level, not lower Him to ours.


12 posted on 06/19/2014 7:18:24 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: madprof98

God bless him, and He will.


13 posted on 06/19/2014 7:18:55 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Well we can’t exactly “raise ourselves” from sin, but we CAN permit Him to lift us.


14 posted on 06/19/2014 7:21:29 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: madprof98
it is puzzling that San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone continues to stubbornly insist

It isn't puzzling at all. It is the act of a man who knows what God requires, and does it--one who knows that we must obey God rather than men. This Lutheran is praying for his Catholic brother in Christ.

15 posted on 06/19/2014 7:22:17 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: chajin

I’d think that just about every Protestant preacher in this land that still takes the real Christ seriously would say amen to this archbishop. He’s protesting in the old, good sense. He’s protesting for what’s right.


16 posted on 06/19/2014 7:24:25 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: madprof98

You know, if you take a step back and really look at this article, it’s astonishing that it was published in the USA.

It rejects pretty much everything the Constitution stands for. It’s not at all about gay rights or even gay marriage.

It’s just pure collectivist totalitarianism, straight up, without apology or any attempt to hide it.

Incredible.


17 posted on 06/19/2014 7:29:31 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

This is just how socialists in their bubbles, babble.


18 posted on 06/19/2014 7:32:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Were it not for socialists, what would comedians use for laughing stocks, straight men(pun intended)?


19 posted on 06/19/2014 7:36:24 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and for what Muslims do.)
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To: madprof98
>> Same-sex marriage isn't a debate in San Francisco. It's state law. Same-sex marriages take place every day in the city, including at City Hall. <<

So let me get this straight... the archbishop shouldn't appear at a rally for traditional marriage because same-sex marriage is legal in San Francisco?

Gee, I guess all those Christian ministers protesting slavery back in the 1800s were wrong. Shame on them for criticizing state slavery laws and saying things that were "hurtful" to the slave owning community. Buying and selling slaves was perfectly legal and sanctioned by the government, so they should have respected that, right?

< sarcasm>

20 posted on 06/19/2014 7:36:47 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: GladesGuru

They deserve more ridicule than they currently get. It would torpedo their snooty snot bladders.


21 posted on 06/19/2014 7:37:46 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: madprof98

One thing you can say for the Archbishop. He is hated by all those who just know they are on the right side of history. I consider that a very good sign


22 posted on 06/19/2014 7:38:36 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: lastchance

The so called progressive confidence is so much Dutch courage. No I take that back, that would be an insult to Dutch courage.


23 posted on 06/19/2014 7:40:22 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: madprof98

It’s noteworthy that whites are about 48% of the population of San Francisco, and if you combine Hispanics and Asians, there are just about as many of them as there are whites.

Plus, very few (heterosexual) whites who live there are having children. So the city is ripe for demographic change. While initially it will be dominated by Asians, the demographic change will eventually be heavily Hispanic.

A large number of whom are Catholic, of a lot better variety of Catholic than are some of the whites there, like Nancy Pelosi.


24 posted on 06/19/2014 7:47:06 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
This is just how socialists in their bubbles, babble.

Isolated bubbles don't worry me.

Bubble baths worry me.

25 posted on 06/19/2014 8:26:09 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: madprof98

Because of course San Francisco should be able to determine and define moral and natural truth for everyone... How dare anyone believe differently from the politically correct line.


26 posted on 06/19/2014 8:27:26 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Well we can’t exactly “raise ourselves” from sin, but we CAN permit Him to lift us.

We can resist mightily (and most of us, if we are honest, do that most of the time) but His grace is stroner than our resistance.

27 posted on 06/19/2014 8:29:36 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Well we can’t exactly “raise ourselves” from sin, but we CAN permit Him to lift us.

We can resist mightily (and most of us, if we are honest, do that most of the time) but His grace is stronger than our resistance.

28 posted on 06/19/2014 8:29:41 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: lightman

The point being that the idea of raising oneself up to God’s level is at best a hypocritical game. A surfeit of grace buoys up the believer.


29 posted on 06/19/2014 8:32:37 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Amen, brother.


30 posted on 06/19/2014 8:34:17 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: madprof98
Dear Mr. Nevius:

1. We had (and I would have said until relatively recently settled) this discussion two-hundred-some years ago. Religious belief and practice are not subject to majority rule, and the elected worthies (heh) you list don’t get to tell any of their constituents what to believe or what to do about it, let alone the archbishop of San Francisco.

2. And I realize you in the news business think so very well of yourselves and your power, but neither do you. Let alone the lovely specimens who comment on your website.

3. Has it ever occurred to the whole lot of you in The City, press, politicians and public, that Bishop Cordileone’s appointment wasn’t the act of a senile, sheltered or absent-minded old man, that Pope Benedict knew perfectly well about both San Francisco’s reputation and His Excellency’s, and therefore knew exactly how you’d react if he translated His Excellency across the Bay Bridge...and did it anyway? Has it ever occurred to you, in short, that this appointment was in fact His Holiness’ way of saying

RATZ: HOW ARE YOU GENTLEMEN!!
RATZ: ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US.

31 posted on 06/19/2014 8:40:17 PM PDT by RichInOC (RATZ: HA HA HA HA....)
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To: madprof98

You must have missed all of Archbishop Cordileone’s happenings, with Nancy Pelosi trying to excommunicate him.

Archbishop Cordileone has a spine to stand up to the homosexual crowd and March in the March for Marriage. He also addressed them. There are numerous threads on FR.


32 posted on 06/19/2014 8:41:42 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: bandleader
Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone

 


33 posted on 06/19/2014 8:43:23 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: madprof98

Next time you may want to do your FR homework before you post.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?m=all;o=time;q=quick;s=cordileone


34 posted on 06/19/2014 8:47:29 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

This was a pan-Christian protest. Google for the March and you see all kind of condescending claptrap from the liberal presses (e.g. Slate claiming that it was in “denial.”)


35 posted on 06/19/2014 9:01:04 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Salvation

1 more broadly similar article... there’s no need to get snooty.


36 posted on 06/19/2014 9:02:03 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: madprof98

Why is that puzzling? He doesn’t do what the state tells him is right, and instead follows his conscience and God, and that’s puzzling?? I’d say the propagandist (either that or he’s the stupidest reporter on his side of the Mississippi) reconsider that NOT EVERYONE follows the left-wing line just because Govt, and Obamy tell them so.


37 posted on 06/19/2014 9:35:30 PM PDT by JSDude1
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To: madprof98
There may be a place where his views would represent the community. This isn't it.

Please, somebody explain to this moron that Apb. Cordileone is not there to "represent the community". He's there to represent Jesus Christ.

Time for Cordileone to move on from San Francisco.

Someone should also explain to this moron that Catholic bishops are appointed by the Pope, and we already have one of those. He lives in Rome, not SF.

38 posted on 06/19/2014 9:44:35 PM PDT by Campion
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To: chajin

Why are there Christian homosexuals?


39 posted on 06/19/2014 11:30:38 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: Talisker

It’s written by the homosexual San Franners.


40 posted on 06/19/2014 11:32:03 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Interesting point. Never occurred to me that the influx of Catholics will change San Francisco.


41 posted on 06/19/2014 11:35:03 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: RichInOC

Hoorah!


42 posted on 06/19/2014 11:36:59 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: madprof98

San Fran sickos don’t like him, he needs to move on they tolerantly say. No room for different viewpoint in their diversity. No room at all.


43 posted on 06/20/2014 12:14:46 AM PDT by vpintheak (I will not comply!)
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To: NetAddicted
Why are there Christian homosexuals?

For the same reason there are Christian thieves, Christian adulterers, Christian liars, and Christian coveters: because we are all sinners, saved by grace.

The problem is not that there are Christian homosexuals, but that there are Christians who have convinced themselves that homosexual acts are within God's will, just as there are Christians who have convinced themselves that scam artistry is within God's will, or that sex with non-spouses is within God's will, or that "white lies" are within God's will, or that really wanting that house that God has granted someone else is within God's will.

44 posted on 06/20/2014 8:12:51 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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